Fazail Amaal @ Work/Uny

(sorry Molana for late post) the first post was just asking for some comments as to how best to conduct taleem at work where the congregation is quite diverse. I think one issue here is the word 'taleem' and the perception in 'some' peoples minds that that word can only be used in a TJ sense and only one fixed book can be used from now till qiyamat. Imho the purpose of short (non-fiqhi) taleems after salaah or done generally (actually lets call it a short darse) is to try inspire/create the thirst for acting on deen. The means can be a number of ways and imho should be choosen by keeping the types of people in front of you in mind.

1. You have skipped a number of responses and clutching on straws but for argument sake lets take your own post...
2. Maulana Saad has explicitly said one day Fazail Aamal, one day Muntakhab Ahadith in Masjid Taleem
   1. UK DOES NOT follow this Tarteeb at all!

The de-facto Taleem book in US from 1983 (onwards) is Riyadus-Saliheen, please feel free to ask Luqman Saheb as he was there in the Mushwara. I didn't say anything about Muntakhib Ahadeeth for US as I don't know about that.

Jazakullah Khairun

In a Masjid (until 4-5 months ago) very close to me this was the scenario in Esha:

• Musalli distribution:
  • 
    less then 5 (old people) who speak Urdu
  • 10+ Asians whose first language is English
  • 10+ Arabs & others who know nothing about Urdu
  • 5-7 New Muslims

Tal'eem in URDU from Fazail-e-Amaal everyday!

less then 7 people attended Ta'leem

To this day around 50% (or may be over) of the people don't know Urdu at all!

All Ailaans in URDU everyday by people who hardly know URDU themselves
OR at best Urdu sounding English and you can stop random Musalles and ask "Did you understand what was said?"

They shrug their shoulders and say "Tableeghees said something".

WALLAHI! This is not a joke...It burns my heart with pain

It is Ramadhan so I don't want to argue with the brother who will just keep going on and on and on and will eventually get abusive otherwise its clear as daylight that we have a problem.

Bowing out of the thread if the brother thinks that I can't defend my comments or don't know what is going on (internally) then so be it.

Jazakullah Khairun

Asslamo Allaikum,

Brother, raised a point to merely focus on the good and ignore the evil!

I DID NOT compare Qadiyanees/Khomeini to Tableeghees, I merely pointed out that both of the former had some good in them so should we focus on their good?

Brother, completely ignored the principle, misunderstood like you have and went off the tangent.

I DID NOT compare Maulana Maududi to Tableeghees, I merely pointed out that he was from Ahlus-Sunnah and also had good but Ulama warned against the bad, so should we focus on their good?

Brother, completely ignored the principle, misunderstood like you have and went off the tangent for the second time.

Let me tell you about two Sahabas (RA):

1. Khaleefatur-Rassol (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) Sayyidina Abu Bak'r As-Sideeq (RA)
2. Sayyidina Abdullah Ibn Zubair (RA), born roughly 2 years after Hijrah and Grand-son of Khaleefatur-Rassol (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) Sayyidina Abu Bak'r As-Sideeq (RA)

Are these two equal in rank to you?

Jazakullah Khairun