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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 17th July 2013 21:35
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23338279

17 July 2013 Last updated at 14:54

Same-sex marriage becomes law in England and Wales

Same-sex couples will be able to get married in England and Wales after new measures became law.

The government's controversial legislation on the issue received Royal Assent on Wednesday.

The Conservative, Labour and Liberal Democrat leaderships all backed the proposals, which were finally approved by MPs and peers earlier this week.

It is expected that the first gay and lesbian wedding ceremonies will take place by summer next year.

Under the terms of the the Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Bill, religious organisations will have to "opt in" to offering weddings, with the Church of England and Church in Wales being banned in law from doing so.

Commons Speaker John Bercow announced the bill had received Royal Assent - the formal approval of the sovereign required for all legislation. The news was greeted with cheers in the Commons chamber.
'Bulldozed'

MPs decided not to oppose a number of minor changes agreed by the House of Lords and approved the legislation on Tuesday.

There will also be a review of whether groups such as the humanists will be allowed to carry out marriages, while ministers said they were prepared to look at eliminating any difference in the treatment of gay couples when it came to pension schemes.

During the Commons debate, Equalities Minister Maria Miller said the passing of the bill was "clear affirmation" that "respect for each and every person is paramount, regardless of age, religion, gender, ethnicity or sexuality", she added.

But Conservative MP Sir Gerald Howarth, one of the bill's opponents, said it was "astonishing that a bill for which there is absolutely no mandate, against which a majority of Conservatives voted, has been bulldozed through both Houses".

He added: "I think the government should think very carefully in future if they want the support of these benches. Offending large swathes of the Conservative Party is not a good way of going about it."

But Paul Parker, recording clerk for Quakers in Britain, said: "It's wonderful to see same-sex marriage achieve legal recognition. Quakers see the light of God in everyone so we respect the inherent worth of each individual and each loving relationship."

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 18th July 2013 06:10
This gay non sense was past into law here in New York City last year. May allah protect the ummat from these modern day sodem and gumorists who are incurring allah's wrath upon the whole world.may allah spare us from his wrath. Ameen.
I heard that two so called Muslim women wanted to get married in the uk. I don't know if that is true so please correct me if I'm wrong.i wouldn't be suprised if I was right. There's also some gay group in Canada called al fatihah. Authubillah.
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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 18th July 2013 08:12
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salaam

you are right about the two pakistani women. they claimed asylum soon after. i wouldnt be surprised if that was their motive.
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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 18th July 2013 16:43
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Salaams brother

I didn't know that. Jazakullah for pointing that out.
Here in NYC the mayoral elections are coming up this September and one of the candidates who is running is an openly and legally married lesbian politician . She also has a lot of political backing. She was married in city hall when the gay marriage bill was passed last year.i never voted in my life but this time I will inshallah, even if my vote doesn't count.all the Muslims should vote to make sure that no openly gay politician gets voted in office. Inshallah
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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 18th July 2013 21:17
I just feel that it is a losing battle at the moment. it seems that the kuffar are adamant to change the fitrah of mankind any which way they can. they are mainly united in this and the ones who are not will also unite with them solely to oppose the muslims. this is how it seems to me. allah hu alam. may allah protect us from iblees and his shayateen.
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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 18th July 2013 23:07
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I hear you my brother. At least we should try and make an effort just like the little bird who flew over the fire that Ibrahim a.s. was caterpolted into. He released a drop of water from his beak over the fire. When he returned to the other birds, they asked him why did he do that when a drop of water can't do anything to extinguish the fire?! The bird replied that at least he can say to Allah on yaumal qiyamah that he made an effort to help nabi Ibrahim a.s. even though it wasn't much. Look at the taqwaa of a bird. Subhanallah.
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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 19th July 2013 10:16
Tactics of Dajjal clearly at play.
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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 20th July 2013 02:09
Yeah you are absolutely right brother Muadh_Khan. May Allah protect us from fitnah. AAmeen.
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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 20th July 2013 02:11
Not only in England, it's becoming common in every non-Muslims country.
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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 20th July 2013 15:46
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salaam

of course we should make an effort. i dont disagree with you there.

but the little bird did not dive into the fire to release the water. it released the water from a safe distance from the fire.

parents will be content in the belief that it will be ok to send their children to kuffar run state schools and get mis-educated in the false belief that homosexuality and homosexual marriages are normal and not immoral/sinful/against fitrah etc, as they believe they will be able to reverse this brainwashing through a couple of hours of maktab each day. they will be pushing their children into the fire.

and of course it will not just stop at that. the brainwashing will increase through other avenues as well such as the media - advertising, television, newspapers, books, video games, music and music videos etc etc etc.

as more and more youth accept the normality of homosexuality, muslim youth will find it difficult and give in to peer pressure and join them. this is inevitable.

may allah protect us and grant us safe passage out of darul kufr.
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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 20th July 2013 22:00
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Ameen brother. I agree as well.
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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 28th March 2014 12:38
Gay weddings: One in five Britons would not attend a same-sex marriage
Friday 28 March 2014

The first gay weddings will take place in the UK this weekend but a poll has revealed some people have reservations about same-sex marriage

Legislation allowing same-sex couples to marry comes into force this weekend but one in five Britons would not attend a gay wedding, research has suggested.

A survey by BBC Radio 5 Live found men were twice as likely to choose not to attend a same-sex wedding as women.
The first gay weddings will take place across England and Wales on Saturday after the government's legislation received the Royal Assent in July last year.

The legislation has been backed by leaders of the Conservative, Labour and Liberal Democrat parties, while the majority of the 1,007 British adults polled by ComRes (69 per cent) agreed that gay marriage should be allowed.

But nearly a third of the men polled (29 per cent) said they would turn down an invite to a gay wedding, in comparison to 16 per cent of women.

In total, 22 per cent of people said they would spurn an invitation to gay nuptials.

The gay and bisexual charity Stonewall argued that it is important to consider that four out of five people would still attend a gay wedding, and said the public attitude towards it is "incredibly positive".

Young people were the most likely to support same-sex unions, with an overwhelming majority (80 per cent) of 18 to 34-year-olds backing the legislation. This figure dropped to under half (44 per cent) among the over 65s polled. 

Women were more likely to support gay marriage than men, with 75 per cent in favour for it compared with 61 per cent of men in favour.

Yet over half of people asked (59 per cent) agreed a person should not be considered homophobic for opposing the legislation that permits gay marriage, and 42 per cent disagreed that gay marriages were the same as straight marriages.
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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 28th March 2014 12:49

For the time being Masjids and Imams are protected.

What assurances have been provided for religious organisations?

Mrs Miller has promised a "quadruple lock" for religious groups who oppose gay marriage, involving:

  • No religious organisation or individual minister being compelled to marry same-sex couples or to permit this to happen on their premises
  • Making it unlawful for religious organisations or their ministers to marry same-sex couples unless their organisation's governing body has expressly opted in to provisions for doing so
  • Amending the 2010 Equality Act to ensure no discrimination claim can be brought against religious organisations or individual ministers for refusing to marry a same-sex couple
  • The legislation explicitly stating that it will be illegal for the Church of England and the Church in Wales to marry same-sex couples

What has this got to do with the Church of England's status as the official state church?

The Church of England is the established church in England - its own Canon Law is part of the law of the land. One of its canons states that marriage is in its nature a union of "one man and one woman". This will remain in force, says the government. The Church had warned that, had Parliament changed the definition of marriage, this could have called into question the "status and effect of the canonical provisions that set out the Church's doctrine of marriage as being between one man and one woman". The government would thus have been overlooking "the implications of what is proposed for the position of the established Church".

Could the legalisation of gay marriage have led to the disestablishment of the Church?

The Church had warned that it could. If the legal position ended up so that same-sex marriage could no longer be limited to civil ceremonies, it says, "the whole range of rights and duties that exist in relation to marriage and the Church of England would have to be re-examined". "The ultimate outcome for both Church and State would be quite uncertain," it says.

Where do other Churches and religions stand on the issue?

The vice-president of the Catholic Bishops' Conference of England and Wales, Archbishop Peter Smith, had said in response to the government's consultation: "In the interest of upholding the uniqueness of marriage as a civil institution for the common good of society, we strongly urge the government not to proceed with legislative proposals which will enable all couples, regardless of their gender, to have a civil marriage ceremony."

Following the government's initial announcement of its outline plans on 11 December, the archbishop, along with Archbishop Vincent Nichols, the leader of the Roman Catholic Church in England and Wales, said opponents of gay marriage should lobby MPs "clearly, calmly and forcefully, and without impugning the motives of others".

The Muslim Council of Great Britain has said it is against the proposals, calling them "unnecessary and unhelpful".

Among Jews, The Liberal and Reform synagogues support gay marriage while the United synagogue opposes it. Chief Rabbi Lord Sacks, meanwhile, has yet to comment on the proposals.

Lord Singh, head of the Network of Sikh Organisations, has said gay marriage would "dilute" the definition of marriage in religious scriptures.

Quakers have campaigned in favour of same-sex marriage and will allow ceremonies to take place on their premises.

Where do the coalition parties stand on the issue?

Plans to legalise same-sex marriage have divided the Conservative Party, and more Tory MPs voted against the bill at second reading in February than voted for it. Prime Minister David Cameron has said he believes same-sex marriages should be allowed in churches - but only if there is a "100%" guarantee that no church, synagogue or mosque would be forced to hold one against their wishes. Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg said the legislation was a triumph for his party, which has championed the plans. Most Labour MPs, including Ed Miliband, also support the move.

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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 28th March 2014 21:33
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in other words 4 out 5 people said, at this early stage, that they WILL attend gay weddings. how about 5 years down the line when people get used to the idea and it is taught and portrayed openly in schools and media?
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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 28th March 2014 21:47
May Allah سبحانه وتعالى protect our children, and the muslim ummah, and keep us on haq...Aameen
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