Why are ulama opposing gay marriage?

What does it have to do with us what gays do?

"Amr bil Ma'ruf wa Nahy an al Munkar (امر بالمعروف و نهى عن المنكر)."

If they don't oppose it, the Muslim youth will assume its okay. They will be held accountable for not doing anything about it and if they didn't, they would have the weakest of weak Imaan.

I'm assuming you have something positive to say.

It is our responsibility to take the deen to non Muslims, wether they are gay or not. Since there will be no Prophet to come, we need to do what we can to make our point too.

 So the question "What does it have to do with us what the gays do?" is null and void in my opinion.

Asslamo Allaikum Shaykh,

I agree with you that many Ulamah and laymen are not even aware of what's being argued so lets summarise the issue. What is being discussed is Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Bill 2012-13 to 2013-14 which seeks to change the legal definition of marriage. The ramifications of this change are as follows:

1. State Schools will be required to teach the legal definitin of marriage
2. Parents will not be allowed to opt out
3. Board of Governers will not be allowed to opt out
4. Government/Council/NHS Employees will be be legally sacked and/or disciplined for giving the definition of marriage which is against the law
5. An Imam will be legally sacked and/or disciplined for giving the definition of marriage which is against the law
6. Doctors/Nurses will be legally required to stick to the official (legal) definition of marriage
7. All Government front line staff will NOT BE ABLE to give Islamic definition of marriage in their private lives on forums, twitter, facebook as they can be liable for legal action. The precedence is already set for sacking staff for using twitter (in their private time)
8. Ulama (in public or private) in any Government capacity (NHS, Prison, Military etc) will not be allowed to give Islamic definition of marriage
9. Any British citizen will have the right to bring a civil suit against any site (www.central-mosque.com) or forum (SF, Muftisays etc) which publicly disagree with legal definition of marriage, whether they win in court or not but they can pursue the matter in the courts!

All in all it isn't about Gay Marriage but changing the legal definition of marriage which is serious stuff. Government can grant rights to Gays without actually changing the legal terms and frameworks of marriage (we don't agree with it ofcourse but it isn;t as dangerous legally!)

Why is the Government doing this?

• In 2004 Gallop poll suggested that 52% of British people were in favour of granting rights to Gays to get married
• In 2009 it was 61%!
• In 2010 it was 78%

Do you see the picture? This is all due to relentless public campaign.

The opposition is due to Government fundamentally (and legally) changing the definition of marriage so its much more then just Gay Marriage.

Jazakullah Khairun

We are heading for clash of civilisations because when our fore-fathers got here they simply worked and were largely left alone. We can do our jobs, pay our taxes be honest upright citizens and aren't being left alone and that's the issue. As Tax paying citizens of this country we no longer have the right to educate our children and for our Ulamah to educate on true Islamic teachings and the Sunnah and the rights have been eroded.  Our Sisters and daughters will not be allowed to dress they want and some lands have already restricted that.

If it hasn't already life in these lands for us will become impossible. In my mind Tassawuff and Tableeghi Jamaat from the Deobandees are both the culprits in our dire situation because they both have the similar outlook on life:

1. Tableeghees say go four months and do your Aamaal and ignore everything else
2. Sufees say attend the Majlis and listen to your Shaykh and do your Aamaal and ignore everything else
3. Madkhali (Salafees) are of the exact same opinion as Tableeghees & Sufees and their Ulamah say the exact same things as Tableeghi & Sufi Ulamah

There are some exceptions to Sufi Mashaykh but almost none amongst Tableeghees.

If this was the ultimate solution then Sayyidina Rasul-ullah (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) and the BEST of Sahaba (RA) would have neither migrated to Madina nor fought at Bad'r because it is impossible to imagine that the Sahaba (RA) lacked Eeman or actions and YET they did something ABOVE & BEYOND their personal daily actions.

Sahaba (RA) had Eeman, they did their Aamaal and they were 110% loyal to their Shaykh i.e. Sayyidina Rasul-ullah (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) and YET their Eeman, Actions and loyalty to their Peer wasn't enough to change their condition!

Such delusion has never existed in the Islamic Ummah : - (

Asslamo Allaikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh,

When our Ulamah like Shaykhul-Islam Hussain Ahmed Madani (RA) decided to OPPOSE Pakistan and to live with Hindu Majority you have to look at their courage and tenacity as:

1. Hazrat (RA) gave his famous Fatwa against Muslims joining the British Army and when he was arrested and tried in Khaliq Deena Hall Karachi by the British instead of repenting what did he say?

The most that you can do is hang or shoot us and martyr us. See that I have brought my shroud on my shoulder for I am fully prepared for my death

He actually carried his Kafan (Shroud) on his shoulder to the Trial and re-repeated his entire Fatwa in front of the Judge verbatim and ensured that the Judge heard it firsthand

How can we match the Taqwa of these people? :- (