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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 10th March 2012 23:46

Salaam,

Something has been bugging me for a very long time now.

Can someone help or expalin something to me, Please!

I Pray Jumuah Salah where ever I end up on Friday's. Some times, I end up praying in a certain area where there are 2 Halal butchers next door to each other and opposite the Masjid.

Sometimes, (most of the times) I pray all the Sunnah and do my Dhikr and then come out of the Masjid, only to find that the butchers is very busy and all the staff are inside doing their business. So I give them the benefit of doubt that maybe I took too long and everyone came back to work.

However, sometimes I need to rush out straight after the Fard Salah due to time restraints or the parking meter running out. This is when I see that the butchers is still very busy and they are doing their business as normal.

 

Dont these butchers offer Jumuah Salah?

 

What excuse do they have? that they are covered in blood! well so what. get changed, remove the appron for crying out loud.

They should be ashamed and should remove the halal sign.

Has anyone else noticed this or is there something that I missed in the Shariah?

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 10th March 2012 23:54

What a coincedence Halal butchers at number 9

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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 11th March 2012 13:14
Wsalaam

Maybe they pray at a later jumuah ...
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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 11th March 2012 13:23
That's what I like to think.

But where I have been, in the winter jumuah starts late and finishes just before Asr Salah.

I think I will ask them, I'll call them up rather than speaking to them face to face.

I think the excuse will be that they ate covered in blood.
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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 11th March 2012 16:02
Along with smell.

I know a few businesses that finish at 11 on Fridays. Others simply take a day off on Friday if it doesn't hurt business or makes no difference (very sad condition)

When it comes to meat shops, people usually need the meat early or they buy it way before. There's no excuses. Builders do the same.

The only valid business/company that an be excused is medical/emergency services to adjust or pray using a switching system (half pray, half work then switch). Butchers don't have that sort of time to switch due to cleaning up, bath, changing etc so the only option for them is to close.

We must also remember that the meat being Halaal has nothing to do with the workers not reading Jumu'ah. Do we stop buying from shops if the workers are not Muslim? (I know that's not your point Abu Muhammad but I wanted to make it clear so others don't misunderstand you).

However, the women folk should be told never to go during say 12-2pm and maybe that might give them a message because going at those times can only encourage them to keep working during those hours.

At my local Masjid, there's a meat shop on the block before it and to be honest, I don't ever recall it being closed (I could be wrong)
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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 11th March 2012 17:01

Asslamo Allaikum,

I know the Butcher Shop in front of our Masjid very well and they have been here for over 30+ years and they prepare for Jummah Rush very well.

  1. They suspend selling at the first Adhan and head to Masjid
  2. They come back after Fardh and start straight-away
  3. Take turns and finish their Sunnah
  4. Its a very busy day for them to keep their business going

Jazakullah Khairun

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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 11th March 2012 18:58
MashaAllah, thats how it can be for the others too.

Just as well these butchers are not HMC certified. Otherwise The title would have been;

"Why I found a HMC Butchers to be Haram (my opinion)"

The workers in this butchers are all Pakistani Muslims who speak to every one in Urdu and do Salam too. Not forgetting the music.

Talking about Music. There is another Butcher near where I catch my train from. In the mornings, specially on Friday's they will have Quran playing and come the evening, its full blast hip - hop music, regae, R & B and what ever else they call it. It just makes me sick. The shop is at the same bus stop where I catch the bus from. Some times it is so annoying, I walk to the next stop. Again, in this case they are Pakistani too.

No offence to Pakistani's, although, my wife tells me they do the same in her country (Pakistan), so whats the difference.

Jazakallahu Khair for all your input sofar.

Point to be noted, there are no special rules for butchers. Salah is Fard upon them too, just like EVERY other Muslim.
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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 12th March 2012 03:58
This doesnt stop at Butchers shops, It applies to all those who own their own businesses. Despite them being their own boss's they still cant make time for Allah! not even the 5 mins to read fardh, forget the khutbah!! what a shame.

This is why the duas of this ummah are just bouncing back from the ceiling and slapping us in the face!!
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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 16th March 2012 14:30
Friday again.

This time instead of phoning the butchers, I went to pay them a visit direct.

As I had completed my Salah, I started to make my way to the butchers but was stopped by an elderly person from my local Masjid and we started to talk. After we had finished talking I saw two brothers who were dressed in very clean clothes (Shalwar Kameez) walking their way out of the Masjid. I walked behind them only to see that they walked straight into the butchers and went right to the back of the shop into the staff area. Alhumdulillah, not only did they pray Salatul Jummuah, they even prayed their Sunnah Salah.

So I have taken the idea that they take turns in going to Jummuah Salah on a rotar.

Having said this and feel slightly comforted, I still dont see why "2" Halal Butchers need to stay open during this time. If some can get changed and go for Jummuah, then they can all go. Close the shop for half an hour and leave the rizq to Allah. Both of these butchers are in competition with each other and I see no other reason for them not all going for Jummuah.
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