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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 30th June 2011 21:32
:salam: can someone post Mufti Rasheed Ahmed Ludhyanvi (rahmatullahi alaihe) and Maulana) Ashraf Ali Thanwi (rahmatullahi alaihe) fatwas?
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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 30th June 2011 21:49
Good point
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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 1st July 2011 10:53

"abu mohammed" wrote:

There is also a talk I heard by Mufti AbdurRaheem Limbada on this night of Shaban and he talks about with evidence from the Quran.

http://www.tafseer-raheemi.com/nisf-shaban-shab-e-baraat-english/


Mufti Rasheed Ahmed Ludhyanvi (Whom I never saw) is one of my mentors, along with Ameer-e-Jaish and Mullah Umar

Asslamo Allaikum,

I have no idea what Hazrat Mufti AbdurRaheem Limbada (HA) is saying and I don't have the time but I can 200% assure everyone that there is NOTHING in the Qur'aan about the 15th of Sha'baan.

Many Ulama from Darul-uloom Bury give these talks throughout UK and many have been notified many times about this matter and no conclusive answer is ever again for their reference.

Jazakullah Khairun

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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 1st July 2011 11:02
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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 1st July 2011 11:11

Asslamo Allaikum,

Got the reference from the book of Shaykh (Mufti) Rasheed Ahmed Ludhyanwi (RA).

 

  1. Shaykh (Maulana) Ashraf Ali Thanwi (RA) wrote that to send Isaal-e-Sawaab to the dean in this night is Sunnah in "Bahishti Zewar" and "Islahir-Rusoom"
  2. Shaykh (Maulana) Ashraf Ali Thanwi (RA) retracted this in "Imdadul-Fatawa" and said that "Islahir-Rusoom" shouldn't be printed without the correction.

The opinion of Akabir Ulama of deoband is listed in this book:

http://www.kr-hcy.com/Saat-Masail/index.shtml

In the end Shaykh (Mufti) Rasheed Ahmed Ludhyanwi (RA) concludes that it is correct that in some instances "many weak Hadeeth" give credence to a matter but in this case the weakeness of narrations is so severe that even if we have in excess of a 1000 narrations it would make no difference!

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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 1st July 2011 11:15

"Muadh_Khan" wrote:

"abu mohammed" wrote:

There is also a talk I heard by Mufti AbdurRaheem Limbada on this night of Shaban and he talks about with evidence from the Quran.

http://www.tafseer-raheemi.com/nisf-shaban-shab-e-baraat-english/


Mufti Rasheed Ahmed Ludhyanvi (Whom I never saw) is one of my mentors, along with Ameer-e-Jaish and Mullah Umar

Asslamo Allaikum,

I have no idea what Hazrat Mufti AbdurRaheem Limbada (HA) is saying and I don't have the time but I can 200% assure everyone that there is NOTHING in the Qur'aan about the 15th of Sha'baan.

Many Ulama from Darul-uloom Bury give these talks throughout UK and many have been notified many times about this matter and no conclusive answer is ever again for their reference.

Jazakullah Khairun

I agree with you. Shaykh Riyadhul Haq said in one of his talks regarding when the Quran was revealed, and he quoted a hadith in which it mentions 3 different nights when the Quran was revelaed, but when someone questioned these 3 different verse and nights, from the Sahaba, the answer given by (Abdullah ibn Masud, I think) was that all these nights are the same night i.e. Laylatu qadr.

In the talk above, Mufti saab gives a different tafseer with his evidence. Ajeeb. Like I said, I follow Darul Ifta wal Irshaad. I've never been there, all I know is that the scholars who mention this place are awesome.

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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 1st July 2011 11:33

"abu mohammed" wrote:

"Muadh_Khan" wrote:

"abu mohammed" wrote:

There is also a talk I heard by Mufti AbdurRaheem Limbada on this night of Shaban and he talks about with evidence from the Quran.

http://www.tafseer-raheemi.com/nisf-shaban-shab-e-baraat-english/


Mufti Rasheed Ahmed Ludhyanvi (Whom I never saw) is one of my mentors, along with Ameer-e-Jaish and Mullah Umar

Asslamo Allaikum,

I have no idea what Hazrat Mufti AbdurRaheem Limbada (HA) is saying and I don't have the time but I can 200% assure everyone that there is NOTHING in the Qur'aan about the 15th of Sha'baan.

Many Ulama from Darul-uloom Bury give these talks throughout UK and many have been notified many times about this matter and no conclusive answer is ever again for their reference.

Jazakullah Khairun

I agree with you. Shaykh Riyadhul Haq said in one of his talks regarding when the Quran was revealed, and he quoted a hadith in which it mentions 3 different nights when the Quran was revelaed, but when someone questioned these 3 different verse and nights, from the Sahaba, the answer given by (Abdullah ibn Masud, I think) was that all these nights are the same night i.e. Laylatu qadr.

In the talk above, Mufti saab gives a different tafseer with his evidence. Ajeeb. Like I said, I follow Darul Ifta wal Irshaad. I've never been there, all I know is that the scholars who mention this place are awesome.

Asslamo Allaikum,

The new user "Madani" is a Maulana who is a graduate of Jamiatur-Rasheed, resident on Madina and student of Mufti Rasheed Ahmed Ludhyanwi (RA) and the current Mufti Abu Lubaba Shah Mansoor (HA)  who writes in Zarb-e-Mumin.  Maulana Madani also knows Hikmat & knows about Aamaliyaat and Ta'weez against various things and an expert in Jinn & Jadoo etc.

:-) He speaks English but working on it so he will use a lot of Urdu and Arabic words :-)

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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 1st July 2011 11:36

I meant Maulana Madani (HA) is an expert in curing issues with Jinns & Jadoo.

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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 1st July 2011 19:20
Assalamualykum

1. Mufti Taqi Usmani states with regards to the weakeness of narrations:


"Although the chain of narrators of some of these traditions suffers with some minor technical defects, yet when all these traditions are combined together, it becomes clear that this night has some well founded merits, and observing this night as a sacred night is not a baseless concoction as envisaged by some modern scholars who, on the basis of these minor defects, have totally rejected to give any special importance to this night. In fact, some of these traditions have been held by some scholars of hadith as authentic and the defects in the chain of some others have been treated by them as minor technical defects which, according to the science of hadith, are curable by the variety of their ways of narration. That is why the elders of the ummah have constantly been observing this night as a night of special merits and have been spending it in worship and prayers."

albalagh. n e t

2. Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanvi retracted his statement about "send Isaal-e-Sawaab to the dean in this night" but did he give importance to the night.

3. On pg 335 in ( the translation of) Bahishti Zewar Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanwi states "Fasting on the 15th ofSha'b�n and the six days after eid ul-fitr is more virtuous than keeping other nafl fasts."

on pg 53 he has stated . "It is mustahab to make ghusl on the night of Bara'at, i.e. fifteenth of Sha'baan."

4. I also came acrross this in ummah. c o m but i am not sure about its authenticity i.e if he wrote it

"Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanvi writes "Its significance is this that 15th night and 15th day of this month are very blessed ones. Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), urged Muslims to stay up during the night and fast during the day. At this night the prophet used to go to the graveyard of Madinah and prayed for the dead. Therefore, it is desirable that the Muslims should pray during that night and fast during the following day. They should also seek the forgiveness of their dead either by reciting the Qur'an or by feeding the hungry or by giving the money in charity or by just praying for them." [4]"

[4] Ashraf Ali Thanvi in his Bahishti Zewar (Heavenly Ornaments), part 6, pp 61-62



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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 1st July 2011 20:20
Mufti Shafi Usmani RA has written in Maariful Quran pg 746

" Chains of transmission of Traditions concerning mid Sha'ban are all weak but, it maybe suggested that, if the various ways of transmission are put together, they gain strength. Therefore, many great scholars have accepted the Traditions about mid Sha'ban because there is room to act upon weak Traditions relating to meritorious actions. Allah knows best!"

Please also see with regards to the transmission of the hadiths

w w w.askimam. o r g


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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 1st July 2011 20:31

I prefer this stance.

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In the end Shaykh (Mufti) Rasheed Ahmed Ludhyanwi (RA) concludes that it is correct that in some instances "many weak Hadeeth" give credence to a matter but in this case the weakeness of narrations is so severe that even if we have in excess of a 1000 narrations it would make no difference![/quote]
 

I find Mufti Taqi Usmani contradicting him self a little in this aspect. I understand the shear number of narrations, but he also says the following about Rajab, for which there are authentic narrations

[quote]Islam has its own principles with regard to the historic and religious events. Its approach about observing festivals and celebrating days and nights is totally different from the approach of other religions. The Holy Qur'an and the Sunnah of the Holy Prophet did not prescribe any festival or any celebration to commemorate an event from the past, however remarkable it might have been. Instead, Islam has prescribed two annual celebrations only. One is Eid-ul-Fitr and the other is Eid ul-Adha. Both of these festivals have been fixed at a date on which the Muslims accomplish a great 'ibadah (worship) every year. Eid-ul-Fitr has been prescribed after the fasts of Ramadan, while Eid-ul-Adha has been fixed when the Muslims perform the Hajj annually. None of these two eids is designed to commemorate a particular event of the past which has happened in these dates. This approach is indicative of the fact that the real occasion for a happy celebration is the day in which the celebrators themselves have accomplished remarkable work through their own active effort. As for the accomplishments of our ancestors, their commemoration should not be restricted to a particular day or night. Instead, their accomplishments must be remembered every day in the practical life by observing their teachings and following the great examples they have set for us.



I agree with the above quote of Mufti Taqi Usmani in all aspects, therefore I wont have double standards for shabe barat.

Although it has nothing to do with celebrations, it is puting aside a particular nght for extra Worship.

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#27 [Permalink] Posted on 1st July 2011 20:44
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Mufti Shafi Usmani RA has written in Maariful Quran pg 746

" Chains of transmission of Traditions concerning mid Sha'ban are all weak but, it maybe suggested that, if the various ways of transmission are put together, they gain strength. Therefore, many great scholars have accepted the Traditions about mid Sha'ban because there is room to act upon weak Traditions relating to meritorious actions. Allah knows best!"


Mufti Shafi Usmani made the above statement not Mufti Taqi.
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#28 [Permalink] Posted on 1st July 2011 20:53
You dont have to celebrate it with cakes,mithai etc lol, but because many great scholars have accepted the traditions and theres no harm in doing good deeds or fasting etc.
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Therefore, it is desirable that the Muslims should pray during that night and fast during the following day
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#29 [Permalink] Posted on 1st July 2011 20:54
its not like your making it eid or something
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#30 [Permalink] Posted on 2nd July 2011 14:23
gotta love the UK Deo scene - so....erm unique ;-)
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