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#61 [Permalink] Posted on 6th May 2016 12:57

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No. Absolutely not.

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#62 [Permalink] Posted on 6th May 2016 12:59

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Jzk, would've been better if sourced.

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#63 [Permalink] Posted on 14th May 2016 14:18

HORSE-RIDING FOR WOMEN

Q. An Alimah says that it is permissible for ladies to drive cars because women used to ride horses during the age of Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) and the Sahaabah. She mentioned some Hadith narrations about women riding horses. Today vehicles take the place of horses. Is her reasoning valid in the Shariah?

A. There are no Mujtahids living on earth today. The age of Ijtihaad ended with Khairul Quroon (the three Golden Ages of Islam). No one has the right to extract Ahaadith from the kitaabs and interpret the narrations to conform to their tastes and corrupt opinions. This haraam exercise, viz., masquerading as a mujtahid, is exceptionally abominable if the opinion seeks to abrogate/cancel an express ruling of the Shariah, and it becomes worse when that ruling was issued by Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) himself.

Regardless of which Sahaabi lady rode a horse and regardless for what purpose she had ridden, the act of the Sahaabi lady does not abrogate Rasulullahâ€™s express prohibition. He said:â€œAllah curses women who ride horses.â€ Now extend this Divine Curse to women driving cars, especially in this immoral environment in which women have no true understanding of the meaning of Hijaab. Comparing the isolated incident of a Sahaabi lady riding a horse in the holy, primitive era of Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) with the mass and wholesale practice of women driving cars in the present age, is a reflection of the jahaalat of the â€˜alimahâ€™ who believes that she has the expertise and qualifications of a Mujtahid. She dwells in gross deception.

Those who rip out Ahaadith from the kitaabs are not even aware of the circumstances which had constrained any Sahaabi lady riding a horse. Even today circumstances can make halaal the eating of pork. But, exceptional circumstances are not the norm. A ruling necessitated by force of circumstances and need is not the normal ruling of the Shariah applicable for all time and for all persons. There are authentic Ahaadith which statethat eating cooked food necessitates wudhu. But no one extracts this Hadith and acts accordingly.

Hadith has tafseer, and only the Aimmah Mujtahideen were qualified to interpret the Ahaadith. No one can dream today of reaching the lofty pedestal of Deeni Knowledge of the Aimmah Mujtahideen. Those who claim that horse-riding or car driving is permissible for women speak with their nafs and their opinions are the products of jahaalat. They merely vaunt for ignorance.

Source; asic-sa.co.za/index.php/book-downloads/the-awake-series/6...

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#64 [Permalink] Posted on 14th May 2016 19:38

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The age of Ijtihaad ended with Khairul Quroon (the three Golden Ages of Islam). No one has the right to extract Ahaadith from the kitaabs and interpret the narrations to conform to their tastes and corrupt opinions.

Question 1: Is IVF treatement Halal or Haram?
Question 2: How did you arrive at your conclusion? Kindly quote the explicit verse of the Qur'aan or Hadeeth on the topic as Ijtihaad has ended.

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#65 [Permalink] Posted on 15th May 2016 05:52

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While I am not aware whether the fatwa is by Ml. A S Desai or someone else. I found this relevant from the Majlis' site;

We are the followers of Imaam Abu Hanifah (rahmatullah alayh) and the basis of our views on all issues on which our Aimmah-e-Mujtahideen and Fuqaha have not issued rulings due to such issues being new developments, is Dalaail-e-Ar'bah, namely, Kitaabullah, Sunnah, Ijma' and Qiyaas. If there exists even a Juz'i mas'alah of our Fuqaha which has direct relevance to a new development, we utilize such a juz'i mas'alah as a principle for extrapolation of a view and fatwa. We do not extract Shar'i masaa-il from opinion unsubstantiated by the Nusoos of the Shariah nor do we resort to Istimbaat of masaa-il from Ahaadith. Such action is the wazeefah (function) of only the illustrious Fuqaha of the Khairul Quroon era.

Source link; the majlis dot co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=302:unacademic-criticism&catid=34:majlis-articles&Itemid=27

Probably the fatwa on IVF is given on the same principles stated.
However I will also forward your query to Ml. and post the reply here Ø¥ÙÙ† Ø´ÙŽØ¢Ø¡ÙŽÙ±Ù„Ù„Ù‡.

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#66 [Permalink] Posted on 15th May 2016 06:01

How can he prove that the age of ijitihad has ended?

Anyways according to the Ulama at Hadithanswers.com the 'hadith' about Allah cursing women who ride horses is baseless and should not be quoted. This does not mean that hadithanswers.com approves of women riding horses.

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#67 [Permalink] Posted on 15th May 2016 07:02

Perhaps the term Ijtihad refers to the Ijtihad of Aimmah Mujtahideen (rahimahullaah ajmaeen). Not the the Ijtihad for new developments of which no trace of ruling is found. This opinion and understanding of mine developed after I went through briefly; the following pages (some relevant quotations from them copied here);

"In this age of scientific calculations and technological advancements, calculated ijtihÄd has to be conducted to arrive at correct and appropriate decisions; hence the maxim:

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An ijtihÄd does not invalidate an ijtihÄd. (Ibid, pg. 105)"

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"A close analysis of the history of IslÄmic law reveals that, contrary to what is premised in this argument, taqlÄ«d is not a stage of intellectual stagnation. In fact, taqlÄ«d represents a higher and more developed stage of IslÄmic legal thinking. The ijtihÄd that was a widespread activity in the first few centuries of IslÄm represents a great number of different ways of interpreting the original sources of SharÄ«â€˜ah â€“ that is, the Qurâ€™Än, Sunnah, consensus, analogy and inherited practice of the earliest generations. It is because of the successes realised by the early mujtahids in this formative period that taqlÄ«d became the overriding legal paradigm following the third or fourth century. To introduce ijtihÄd at this later stage would be to â€œreinvent the wheelâ€ so to speak. In secular terms, taqlÄ«d entails fitting new legal cases into existing â€œprecedentsâ€. These authoritative precedents that have their roots in the IslÄmic legal texts were fully codified in law schools established in the early centuries by the famous mujtahids credited with having founded them."

www.askimam.org/public/question_detail/32539

And this;

"As far as the issue of IjtihÄd is concerned, UlamÄ have laid down very strict criteria for IjtihÄd. If anybody can meet these criteria, then he may carry out IjtihÄd. IjtihÄd consists of two basic categories:
1) The composition and compilation of juridical principles that will govern the extraction of rulings from the Qurâ€™Än, HadÄ«th, QiyÄs (logical deduction) and IjmÄâ€™ (consensus) and the practical application of such principles. Such principles are comprehensive and are never broken. For this, one requires a very high level of juridical skills and expertise.
2) The extraction of rulings on new issues based on the comprehensive principles deduced by the Mujtahideen in the past. This form of IjtihÄd is still carried out by â€˜UlamÄ who specialize in Fiqh."
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#68 [Permalink] Posted on 15th May 2016 08:17

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W-Salam,

Then your second posting contradicts your first posting because it said very clearly that Ijtehaad is finished, as usual the wording is inaccurate and left to be interpreted.

Take your PERHAPS, MAYBE Fatwaas and ask the Ulama to write clearly so there is no scope for you to spin and explain their words to the masses. If the Ulama have given you permission and rely on your expertise to explain their words please let us know and we will come to you for explaination in an official capacity.

I live in UK and Ulama in my country permit women to drive with conditions. In our Masajid women drive and come pick up their children, drop them to School with rules of Hijab so I am happy with the situation:

islamqa.org/hanafi/daruliftaa-birmingham/20353

It will be permissible for women to drive cars if there is a genuine need, for example, the husband cannot drive or there is an emergency, there is no danger to the woman, the rules of hijaab are fully observed (which is her whole body including her face besides her hands and feet) and if she is driving without the company of mahrams then it should be within 48 miles.

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#69 [Permalink] Posted on 17th May 2016 12:32

During the Jamia Hafsa crisis Maulana Abdul Rashid Ghazi (RA) a few days before being shot down by Pakistani Army gave a TV Interview. In the Interview he was asked if he is against women education and he replied:

My wife teaches at the Madrasah, she D-R-I-V-E-S while doing some chores etc so this is an accusation! and then he explained a few more things

DO NO GOOGLE & listen to that Interview if you live in UK or USA. I am recalling my memory from 2007. To the best of my recollection he mentioned driving!

South African Ulama are of course on another level of Fiqh and Taqwa which they are free to adopt in their own country as long as its not thrust upon us the position of Hanafi Madhab (which this isn't) like many other South African rulings.

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#70 [Permalink] Posted on 20th December 2021 06:08

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No Woman: No Drive

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Say I remember when you used to sit
In the family car, but back seat

I just watched this. For the first time. My sides are still aching.

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#71 [Permalink] Posted on 14th March 2023 09:35

Over 80 female cab drivers will be hired soon in 4 Saudi airports

March 12, 2023

Saudi Gazette report

RIYADH â€” More than 80 female taxi drivers will be hired soon in the four main airports in Saudi Arabia. They are King Khalid International Airport in Riyadh, King Abdulaziz International Airport in Jeddah, King Fahd International Airport in Dammam, and Prince Muhammad International Airport in Madinah.

This is part of the first phase of an initiative, launched on Sunday by Saudi Arabiaâ€™s Transport General Authority (TGA), in cooperation with the Ministry of Human Resources and Social Development (MHRSD), represented by the Tawteen Program-2, to empower women in the fields of transport, Al-Watan newspaper reported.

Under this phase titled â€˜Womanâ€™s Track,â€™ three agreements will be signed with major companies, which are licensed to operate airport taxis, to employ more than 80 female drivers, starting from four airports. As part of the second phase of the initiative, women taxi drivers will be employed in all other airports in the Kingdom.

The initiative includes cooperation with a specialized driving center to prepare and develop a comprehensive training program for acquiring basic skills in driving cabs, in addition to soft skills such as decorum, customer service, first aid, and the English language. This also includes providing support through the Tawteen Program-2 to empower national cadres and to support the development of the transport and logistics services sector as well as to improve the experience of beneficiaries, including visitors and travelers.

The TGA emphasized that the initiative will contribute to improving and developing the experience of transport services and receiving passengers so as to ensure business continuity. This will be in line with the authorityâ€™s keenness to support job creation, increase local content, and activate the role of women in Saudization programs in the transport sector and the companies operating in it in a way promoting the gross domestic product (GDP).

It is noteworthy that the authority and the MRHSD aim to localize jobs in the transport and logistics sector and this initiative is one of the nationalization initiatives that support the empowerment of women in several fields. This contributes to achieving the goals of the National Strategy for Transport and Logistics Services and achieving the goals of the Kingdomâ€™s Vision 2030.

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#72 [Permalink] Posted on 14th March 2023 09:41

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Chance to earn some income.

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#73 [Permalink] Posted on 14th March 2023 10:06

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All the best to saudi sisters........

No more starvation,
Need not beg their husbands to support them.
Their journey to reach the status of ladies in the west is on track.

May your Master make it easy for you... Amen

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#74 [Permalink] Posted on 15th March 2023 05:05

Isn't it Haram to Hanafis as they do so cuz women can't ride horses

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#75 [Permalink] Posted on 15th March 2023 05:26

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Is it halal for salafis/hanbalis that their women must earn and support themselves.

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