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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2007 19:03
I don't think there is any Islam in some of the so called Islamic schools..i mean the head teacher cutting her hair short an what not..only two hours of so called Islamic lessons in a whole week..only thing they worry about is to please the authorities so they can make their school government funded...if it wasn't for the mixing and dress code in government schools..they would be better off there at least the children know its a non Muslim school and not fooled by an unislamic school in disguise...an article i would like to add:

Are Muslim Schools failing their students ?

If Muslims schools are unable to prepare their students in the mould that is shaped by Allah, then they have 'failed' their students, even though they may produce a hundred percent pass rate! The first purpose of Muslim Schools must be to produce good Muslims and dynamic leaders for the Islamic society. For this purpose, Tarbiyyah, sound Islamic moral training, must be an integral part of the school. This must be the very heart and soul of our education, and not a ceremonial husk. All plans for improving our education will be totally useless unless they are based on a full understanding of this key fact.

Today we find many internal problems in the Muslim society everywhere. If we think about it, we may realize that most of these problems are of our own making. Which is another way of saying that they are largely traceable, directly or indirectly, to the education system and institutions that produced the people who cause these problems.

Why are Muslim communities in the grip of so much materialism today? What should we expect when our entire education system is preaching the gospel of materialism? Why have we effectively relegated Islam to a small inconsequential quarter in our public life? Because that is precisely where our education system has put it. Why in our behavior toward each other we see so little display of Islamic manners and morals? Because our imported education system is devoid of all moral training. Why are our societies sick? Because our education system is sick.

This is the real crisis of education today. Previously, education was never like this. Education in the past was always the means of nurturing the human being. Moral training, tarbiyyah, was always an inalienable part of it. The ustaz,(teacher), was not just a lecturer or mere professional, but a mentor and moral guide. Good moral training as exhorted in the Hadith, was considered the best gift a teacher could present to his student. Sadly, this is no more.

Mufti Z.Bayat, Stanger

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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2007 20:48
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Assalaamu-alaikum ww


In my humble opinion, now more than ever is there a need for us to unite together and form Muslim Schools. Simply look around us and see what is being offered at the state schools. What is needed is good quality teaching within a safe shariah environment, something we can definitely do, as long as we make the effort together. What is essential, though, is to ensure that this effort is done under the guidance of the Ulema-e-Haq.


Here in Gloucester, we have established an 'Islamic' Nursery, Secondary School for Girls and have just started a Primary School with a Reception class.


This has all been done under the guidance of our respected Hadhrat Mufti Abdullah Sahib (D.B) (yep the same person who regularly answers questions on this same website and runs the foodguide website).


The girls school has now been running for over 12 years, whilst the nursery has been running for about 5 years. Last September Hadhrat Mufti Sahib started the Al-Ashraf Primary school.


So what about quality? Good question! I cannot explain how the Girls School manages to get excellent grades despite the meagre resources that it has. Alhumdulillah, it is only the mercy and grace of Allah (SWT) that the school continues to improve.


Recently, Ofsted have inspected the Girls School and the Nursery, please do try and read the reports at the Ofsted website - search for 'Gloucester islamic'


As always, finance is the major issue, our budget is only �150,000 yet the school outperformed all the other schools in the county for 'added value' i.e. how much we can improve the pupils' education over their school life. As the inspector from ofsted mentioned, our budget should be more like �500,000!


A humble request for dua's and support in these noble efforts and may Allah (SWT) continue to shower his mercy on our children and may He continue to 'lengthen the shadow' of our respected Hadhrat Mufti Abdullah Sahib (D.B) over us.


Aameen

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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2007 20:54

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unless you can make a difference it is pointless raising negative issues that are beyond your capability to change, if your concern is the welfare of teachers working in an islamic environment then maybe it would be better if you took up such issues with people running islamic schools. no muslim running an islamic school/organisation would purposely take advantage of another muslim.


Maybe you should have asked what my intention was first.


Let me explain so that maybe you feel guilty at taking my comments earlier the wrong way.


When i was a student at an Islamic school, any tom, dick or harry used to be appointed a teacher of a particular subject. So we had a maths teacher who knew nothing about the subject and we as kids were given a maths book which we would have to work out all ourselves.


We did not learn anything this way and also this caused problems for me further down the line. And then when a good teacher was found, they would not be paid and of course because although the teacher may have been doing it for Allahs sake, every human being with a family needs regular pay to survive. All i am saying is if you are going to open a school, you need to make sure there is stability, otherwise it is the students who suffer in the long run.


I was not trying to say my concerns were teachers not getting paid. I was trying to say the result of these actions are that the students suffer.


Unless you can find teachers who do not mind getting paid well over a month late!


I suffered thats all.

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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2007 21:22
Masha Allah - it was pleasing to read of the progress in Gloucester. Alhamdulillah !

I did look up the school's ofsted report, and would second Abu Abdullah's recommendation of reading it (click the link to read the report)
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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2007 21:33
Regards Abu AbduIIah's comments - hence my comments on the other thread for jamaituI uIama UK or any such body of uIama to do such things. Thats proof if ever anyone wanted one what such a group of uIama can do. AIthough in the GIos exampIe it took onIy one aaIim - what'II happen nationaIIy if a group of uIama (together with the heIp of other good sincere Iike minded brothers and sisters) turned there attentions towards such efforts = our schooIs wiII come forward in Ieaps and bounds both spirituaIIy and academicaIIy inshaIIah.
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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2007 21:33
Excellent stuff. Nice to get positive feedback of the school Mashallah.
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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2007 21:39
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A humble request for dua's and support in these noble efforts and may Allah (SWT) continue to shower his mercy on our children and may He continue to 'lengthen the shadow' of our respected Hadhrat Mufti Abdullah Sahib (D.B) over us. Aameen

i second that, the time and effort the respected mufti sahib has put into the school and the foodguide and this website, he has nothing but our admiration and dua's. may Allah سبحانه وتعالى accept all his efforts and reward him abundantly in both worlds.

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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2007 21:39
I think even if in the beginning ulamah from one area, eg. london, united and helped each other, this could benefit everyone. Could even appoint one masjid as the head masjid where the ameer would be from. Meetings could take place in all masjids on a rota basis.


Insha'Allah we make dua that ulamah can get together.


The so called 'terror alert' school, Jamiah Islamiah, what happend with that after?

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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2007 22:00
cIosed far as i know. onIy had about 10/12 kids i think. gigantic buiIding though!
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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 21st February 2007 08:16
Have you been there? 12 students in a big building?
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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 21st February 2007 08:26
the sisters sahih al-bukhari graduation (al-zahra) that just took place on the 11th february, is run under the teaching and guidance of respected moulana Bilal sahib, whom also runs the daruloom (jameah islameah) and yes it is a very big and also very beautiful place.
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#27 [Permalink] Posted on 21st February 2007 09:32
I would be greatful if names of Islamic school can be mention in this topic.


Tayyibah Girls School - excellent for disciplin, academic achievements and spirituality.
my eldest daughter attends tgs, there is a great difference in her. they start with reception. so its ideal to send them from young so they can be moulded naturally. rather then adopting the attitude where you say; "4 & 1/2 is way too young to send them."
if you send children at a much later age, they dont mould easily and they also take with them their bad habbits and influence other children.


i would like to know about 'Al-Falah'. is it doing well? also, is it part of Imam Zakariya on Romford Rd? i would like my son to start there at the earliest age posible (5).
Tawhid only accepts from the age of 11. (I think)

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#28 [Permalink] Posted on 21st February 2007 09:36
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erm niqab at 9 years oId???


masha'allah, I really rate her for her bravery.
May Allah سبحانه وتعالى guide her and keep her chaste always.

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#29 [Permalink] Posted on 21st February 2007 10:22

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the sisters sahih al-bukhari graduation (al-zahra) that just took place on the 11th february, is run under the teaching and guidance of respected moulana Bilal sahib, whom also runs the daruloom (jameah islameah) and yes it is a very big and also very beautiful place.



Darul uloom? Previous posts suggest there were 12 students, how many students are studying in the darul uloom? Who are the teachers over there?

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#30 [Permalink] Posted on 21st February 2007 10:45
the daruloom is a boys daruloom, hence the approx 12 students. you would have to contact jameah islameah for all the other questions.
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