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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2007 09:08

Assalamu Alaykum,


does anyone think Muslim schools are up to the standard they should be? And i dont mean in terms of how well the schools are doing in terms of results and facilities, what i mean is spiritualy are these schools creating an Islamic atmosphere and awareness, that which Allah swt requires from everyone.


Has anyone a child who attends an Islamic school or has maybe been to one?

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2007 10:04
i think opinions/views on both the spiritual as well as the academic side should be given.
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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2007 11:41
we initially sent our children to islamic school simply for the environment, in state school my daughter was the first to cover her hair from a very young age when not many girls wore the hijab she got picked on by other children also at one point by teachers as our circumstances changed she attended two different islamic girls school which really helped build her as a person and strengthened her imaan, she began to wear the niqab at the age of 9yrs old while she was in islamic primary school and she's never taken it off, and im happy to say academically she has always been one of the brightest in the class.

my other son also attends islamic school and we have never regretted sending him, either for spiritual reasons nor educational.

i have heard respected ulema say that no matter what the schools may be like, always weigh out the better choice between the two. unfortunately i come across many parents who are not satisfied with islamic schools, because they pay fee's they have high expectations, but it must be borne in mind islamic schools are not government funded, so although they may not be upto the same standard as state schools the intentions, efforts and dua's for the children and teachers are always there. i say give the money in the path of Allah s.w.t. and forget about it.

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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2007 12:55

erm niqab at 9 years oId???


true say - just cause you pay fee's dont mean its gonna be straight A's.

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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2007 13:38
I believe that there is a strong correlation between discipline and results.


Islamic schools tend to have strong discipline and teachers are shown the respect they deserve.


Allied to the barkah of an islamic setting, there is no doubt in my mind that if the school is administered properly, the education will be good.


Results from schools, even those with little funding often out-perform the existing established schools.

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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2007 13:53

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erm niqab at 9 years oId???


it wasnt a school rule or anything neither was she forced into it she's always had a strong belief in following islam by the book. nevertheless she had to take a lot of flack from alot of people for it, but you know what, it never moved her the slightest and only Allah سبحانه وتعالى can give such strength to a child at that age.

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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2007 13:54

The following is a selection of articles written by Mufti Zubair Bayat.


Maybe you have already come across it, but for those who hav not...


Muslim Schools - Reflections

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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2007 14:09
mufti zubair DB has tonnes of knowIedge and experience as he was principIe of one. Tawhid schooI reguIarIy consuIt him.
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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2007 15:27
Not to be negative as allhamdulillah Islamic school are what we need especially nowadays and there are many benefits from them for our future generation.
But I know about a few schools (well one being boarding school) that the students use drug, mean bring it into school etc. I'm not saying all the students, but it happened and I just keep wondering how it got in???


There are some fantastic Islamic school out there and Many Allah reward them all who help to bright our children future and hereafter.

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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2007 15:48
From what I have seen up until now, I find that the Islamic girls schools are more successful than the boys schools. This could be to do with anything and everything. I think the key lies with the Headteacher/Principal and then those teachers that are employed to teach the children. If the person on top gives a good example, then this filters down on the rest of the teachers and then on to students.


If you look back in to history, Muslim Spain consisted of Muslims with vast knowledge and there were schools etc run by the Muslims. The non-Muslim learnt from these schools and so now it is us who benefits from them. Insha'Allah when we do have enough resources, Muslims schools can prosper.


This is why it is very important to give them deeni and wordly knowledge. Our aim and intention of course should be to try and get our children to be educated enough to spread Islam amongst the non-Muslim.

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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2007 15:48
due to outside influence, issues such as drugs and other bad influences do creep in, an islamic environment isnt a full proof service, we have to remember shaytan is everywhere and he works harder in trying to mislead the ones who will attain success in deen. a school is not responsible for the outcome of a good or bad person it works hand in hand with good parenting and loads of dua's. sending your children to a good state school isnt a bad thing, as long as it does not teach anything against islamic beliefs and the child does not become influenced by the non-islamic way of life and thinking.
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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2007 15:58
Are there any teachers out there who have worked or are working in Islamic schools?


I have heard of people complaining about late pay and the schools taking advantage of teachers in other ways. Even though we all know it is difficult for these schools in terms of funding but in order to attract and keep hold of good teachers, it is important to deal with them profesionally as they also have families at home that need to be fed.

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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2007 16:02
unless you can make a difference it is pointless raising negative issues that are beyond your capability to change, if your concern is the welfare of teachers working in an islamic environment then maybe it would be better if you took up such issues with people running islamic schools. no muslim running an islamic school/organisation would purposely take advantage of another muslim.
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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2007 16:54
Assalamoalaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakaatuh

I have worked in several Islamic schools over the last 3 years, and can appreciate all of the points raised in this discussion so far.

Indeed, we must strike a balance between positivity and constructive criticism.

Ultimately, the conduct of the management, staff and students all depends on the ikhlaas and akhlaaq of the adults. That of those who are responsible for themselves, and that of those who have their sub-ordinates.

I feel that it is crucial for all Islamic schools to be strongly affiliated with muttaqi ulama when it comes to managing the staff and also with professional institutions which can guide them towards adopting the most effective teaching practices through training and resources.

Islamic schools are increasing in number, and this is no doubt, a good thing. They also have their shortcomings which can only be addressed when the management of the schools open themselves to sincere advice. This ability to accept advice is rooted in humility which is a fundamental of akhlaaq... and this is what must be addressed first in both our young and old; men and women.

Fee amaanillah

Wassalaam

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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 20th February 2007 17:36
salaam
Interesting discusion
I am a teacher who has worked in state schools for many years. Alhamdullillah i feel this has given me an insight to what is 'out there'. I also have just accepted a position in an islamic school. Much as i enjoyed my previous work, i felt there was a need to use my services, as it were, to help my brothers and sisters in muslim schools. yes, the temptation is there sometimes to go back to a state school, but then agian, that is shaitaan jus trying it. The money is better, the opportunites of accelerating in the field are greater, but i have to keep pulling myself back to base and ask why i chose to work in an islamic school.
Yes there is more discipline and more respect, and the main thing is, you are instilling in the children you teach a holistic way of life. you teach them the maths and the english etc, but you do it because you want them to succeed as muslims, and you want them to make a change and a positive diffrence to society.
Also, you are using the blessed words of Allah and His rasul (saw), in everything you do. You begin and end your day with dua.
There is a long way to go, but inshallah, islamic schools will take off and be a part of mainstream education.
May Allah keep all our intentions clear, and use us for the khidmat of deen. Ameen
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