



AssaIaams w w
good question. pops into my mind aIso - mashaIIah good to hear another user of this site from thousands of miIes away.



JAzakALLah brother ,,,this is something crept into our society very badly and its the call of time to eradicate it from our culture but for this we need a strong justification in perspective of Quran And sunnath,,as when in front of a blind SAHABi (RZ) companion of Propeht (PBUH) women were orderd to do hijab then how come ladies go to non mehram tailors and above to that give measurements ...!!!!!?
I should be able to get an asnwer soon insha'Allah.
Wassalam



yes sis i have posted this question,, and waiting for the reply ,,but meanwhile i want to share and get the views from the members of the forum ,, yes waiting for the reply of respected guest,,
as u have urself asked about if they give clothes for measurements,,here the thought comes into my mind is that when women are advised to b harsh while talking to non mehram ,,that even the voice may generate any evil thoughts in others mind then ,,,,,,

i totally agree with this statement, the voice of a woman can incite evil thoughts in the mind of men, hence i have always understood and accepted the advise given to women of speaking in a non-friendly manner when having to deal with the ghair mehram, nevertheless it is an issue which can only be implemented by those women who do not have a moderate way of thinking.
But, that doesnt answer the question of whether a woman can or cannot hand a piece of garment as a sample for having clothes made? personally i am served by male shopkeepers and there has never been a need for me to converse with them and if the need has arisen the words have been very few, simple and straight forward.
am i right or wrong in believing when a lady is trying her utmost not to speak in a friendly manner it is also the duty of a muslim man not to do the same.



however, what did make me uncomfortable as a woman, was that a tailor can easily assess the size and shape of a woman through the clothing she has given, this bit i had a dilema in understanding whether it was islamically correct or not.
dont know, would be interesting to see what others think.
do you mean body parts being mentioned when discussing either alterations or clothes being made? im afraid it is something that also occurs here in the uk but we are not accustomed to seeing it so openly, hence, are a bit blind to its existence.



plz my english is not that much good m always trying nt to make any grammatical mistake but forgv me keeping it as human error,,,
so this is wht exactly the question is ,,as we are very much clear that giving measurements physically must be wrong ,but wht is the ruling in the perspective of HIJAB about giving clothes for the measurements to non-mehram MEN tailors

Certainly, interaction between muslim women and male tailors can be a source of fitnah, and the taking of the former's measurements by the latter is undoubtedly haraam. As to the giving of garments as a sample, I feel that this can be categorized according to the nature of the garment. Just as certain items of clothing should be purchased with discretion, similarly, I believe that the sewing of close fitting garments should not be assigned to male tailors. However, I see no harm in assigning a tailor the task of sewing, for example, an abaya. Nevertheless, the exchange of the sample and final product must still be conducted within the limits of the shariah, i.e. that khulwah does not take place and that only necessary words be exchanged in the most formal of tones.
In order to tackle this problem, the men of a household must take on the responsibility of ensuring that their women do not interact with ghair mahram males in this manner, by insisting that they themselves (the males) conduct any communication with other males, or that the women find females to fulfil their tailoring requirements. The latter being the more preferable option.
From another angle altogether, should not those who are aware of the temporary nature of the dunya refrain from indulging excessively in fine clothing? To adopt a life of simplicity is a goal which we should all strive towards. Are we having these garments sewn frivolously? Do we have patches in our clothes as the sahaba did? Or is it that we are simply bored of the style we are currently wearing? Do we really need a summer wardrobe and a winter wardrobe? Can't we just wear extra layers instead? Would not the wealth we spend on our clothes be better given in the path of Allah?
I speak to myself before I speak to others. May Allah grant us all the tawfeeq to lead lives of simplicity in compliance with His commands. Aameen.
Fee amaanillah
Wassalaam






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