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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 6th December 2006 12:22
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My apologies, I have removed the offending link.

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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 6th December 2006 16:07
Guess I shouldn't have 'reported' it. Only admin can bring your post back.
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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 6th December 2006 16:13
Speaker:
Mrs Khadija Ravat - a part-time teacher at Al-Aqsa School, Leicester.
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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 6th December 2006 17:09
a women must not exhibit herself,
hence, a women covers herself from top to bottom, however when one goes on national television isnt that making an exhibition of oneself whether one is covered or not??
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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 6th December 2006 17:56

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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 6th December 2006 18:54
I was taught that when a need arises for a Muslim woman to speak for her religion, then she can and there's nor awrah rule then however, I'm not sure in this case as I dont know what the channel is about and what they usually have on it (probably not anything good, judging this by looking at your posts).


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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 7th December 2006 09:29
Yes, daywalk3r, u were correct, voice is NOT awrah. Apologies for misleading this forum.
Allah Ta'ala states in the noble Qur'aan, 'When a female converses with a
male, her voice should be firm and stern.' (Ahzaab).
If there is a need for a female to converse with a strange male, she should
follow the above injunction of the noble Qur'aan.
Despite my initial pessimism, I'm sure sister Khadija will give an appropriate message. It's just that whenever I used to watch any 'islamic' programme on TV before, even those covering the most non-controversial subjects, I would be infuriated by the misinterpretations/myths that were peddled therein.
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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 7th December 2006 10:02
JazakAllahu Khayr for the links, however noone has made any comments? do you all stick to what you said before? Do you think this will provoke the non-muslims of the UK?


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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 7th December 2006 11:16
if this is a one off, i say it would be good for the nation to hear a womans point. its always coming from a man. and because it is from a man, ppl dont believe in it 100%.
as long as she talks sense and appropriatly, it may benefit us muslim women as it will open the ppls brain-washed mids!! (due to the media)


if a woman broadcast her voice daily on radio for a general topic where men are most likely to listen to it (daily), then i'd say a big no.
we have to weigh the pros and cons.

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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 7th December 2006 17:36
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I was taught that when a need arises for a Muslim woman to speak for her religion, then she can and there's nor awrah rule then however, [/quote] can this be classed as a need, a need islamically is normally classed as a life and death situation.

this is my point of view and i speak solely for myself: it is christmas day a sensitive and auspicous day for the majority in this country, why hold a speech on that day? the queens speech, although most people arent interested, it has become a custom amongst those that celebration christmas to listen to it, and it is drawing the attention away from this custom, where the whole countries attention will be lying. why?

i wear the niqab, do i want someone speaking up on my behalf on national television, (by the way the t.v. is my pet hate) i pray 5 times a day, and i recite the quran, do i need someone to go on the telly to speak on my behalf, to justify where, why and what i do?

it is not in the media's interest to propagate Islam, so why so much support?

since when were the lectures of the pious ulema in need of an upgrade from a female lecturer, when the piety of our pious have never lead centre stage do we need a female to do such a thing. this will be the beginning of something more to come

there is no doubt the sister is very intelligent and will most likely speak very well, but whose interested, the muslims? the media? those waiting to watch not because they are interested in islam watching out of curiosity and fault finding? if there are any genuine people searching the truth Allah سبحانه وتعالى guides them regardless.

Where islam is concerned we are always going to be tested with one issue or another, as in the past, issues have come and gone, as far as im concerned this issue was beginning to fade and who decides to make it an issue again? and even then, on christmas day, when no-one wants to see all the anti-islamic pictures they have been viewing all year round

[quote] When muslim women issues come out in the media like they recently have it is muslim women who need to respond (as well as the whole communuty)


i dont think he meant on national television, maybe with our neighbours, people we work with, and are in contact with, etc. it brings to mind how islam spread in the early days, it spread solely by a persons akhlaq, people use to revert to islam just by looking at the sahaba r.a. and their akhlaq, piety, honesty, etc. most of the people against the niqab are non-practising muslims, whats that telling us.

think its time we worried about our state of affairs, our piety and our conduct because only this will spread Islam and show the truth of our Creators deen, and steer away from such activities.

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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 7th December 2006 21:29


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#27 [Permalink] Posted on 7th December 2006 21:46
some may agree with a sister giving an interview some may not. opinions are opinions - Iong as they are made in a decent respectfuI manner when Iove and respect is stiII intact though opinions are poIes appart.
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#28 [Permalink] Posted on 7th December 2006 22:11

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#29 [Permalink] Posted on 7th December 2006 22:39
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its kinda Iike some UIama appearing on TV giving bayaans etc Iike shaikh riyaduI haq and shaikh Mogra. some knock them for using a haraam thing such as TV to give dawah. i say who are we to knock them!! [/quote]

a shaykh cannot be compared to me you or any other layperson, i would never knock such pious people. Alhamdulillah

[quote] We aII have short comings aIso sister but its kinda a Iow shot putting her down Iike that.

we not putting her down she is probably more intelligent and knowledgable person then myself, however you will find majority of women in niqab will not want a spokeswoman speaking on their behalf, its like a bearded man coming on all the papers and websites advertised as coming on t.v. to talk about the beard im sure any man with a sunnati beard wouldnt be interested in his well to do activity on their behalf, it has to be remembered whatever she says is gonna be on behalf of all women in niqab.

without a doubt i say whatever she will say will be nothing but according to shariah, she has a good following and is respected by her teachers and many students, speaking up when your religion is under attack is fine for clarification, but to do a speech when there is no need it dont make sense???

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#30 [Permalink] Posted on 7th December 2006 23:03
i think this thread can roII and roII. repIies and counter repIies. So inshort i'II just say everyone has made some good vaIid points and Ieave it at that.
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