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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 15th December 2004 18:58
This is an article I came across, have a read. This is what the west think of us.

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'Perhaps it is time we thought the unthinkable about Iraq. Perhaps it is time
we considered the possibility that we will break everything we touch in that
country - or everything we touch will break itself. However mixed or
misguided our intentions were in launching this war, we are attempting, at
considerable cost to ourselves, to improve life for the Iraqi people.

Despite the numbers of Iraqi dead and the travesty of Abu Ghraib, the Iraqi insurgents know that we did not come to their country to rape their women or
to kill innocent civilians. Every thinking person in the Muslim world
understands that if our goal had been to kill Iraqis and steal their oil,
millions of Iraqis would now be dead and their oil would be flowing. The
terrible truth about our predicament in Iraq is that even if we had invaded
with no other purpose than to remove Saddam Hussein from power and make Iraq a paradise on Earth, we should still expect tomorrow's paper to reveal that another jihadi has blown himself to bits for the sake of killing scores of innocent men, women and children.

The Iraqi people have been traumatized by this war and by decades of
repression. But this does not explain the type of violence they wage against us on a daily basis. War and repression do not account for suicidal violence directed against the Red Cross, the United Nations, foreign workers and Iraqi innocents. War and repression would not have attracted an influx of foreign fighters willing to sacrifice their lives merely to sow chaos.

We are now mired in a religious war in Iraq, and elsewhere. Our enemies, as witnessed by their astonishing willingness to slaughter themselves, are not principally motivated by political or economic grievances. Anyone who
imagines that terrestrial concerns account for terrorism by Muslims must
explain why there are no Palestinian Christian suicide bombers. They, too, suffer the ordeal of the Israeli occupation. Where are the Tibetan Buddhist suicide bombers for that matter? The Tibetans have suffered an occupation far more brutal than any we or the Israelis have imposed on the Muslim world. The truth that we must finally confront is that Islam contains specific doctrines about martyrdom and jihad that directly inspire Muslim terrorism.

Unless the world's Muslims can find some way of expunging the metaphysics that is fast turning their religion into a cult of death, we will ultimately face the same perversely destructive behavior throughout much of the world.

Wherever these events occur, we will find Muslims tending to side with other Muslims, no matter how sociopathic their behavior.

It is time we admitted that we are not at war with "terrorism." We are at
war with Islam. This is not to say that we are at war with all Muslims, but
we are absolutely at war with the vision of life that is prescribed to all
Muslims in the Koran. The only reason Muslim fundamentalism is a threat to us is because the fundamentals of Islam are a threat to us. Every American should read the Koran and discover the relentlessness with which non-Muslims are vilified in its pages. The idea that Islam is a "peaceful religion hijacked by extremists" is a dangerous fantasy - and it is now a particularly dangerous fantasy for Muslims to indulge.

It should be of particular concern to us that the beliefs of devout Muslims
pose a special problem for nuclear deterrence. There is, after all, little
possibility of our having a cold war with an Islamist regime armed with
long-range nuclear weapons. A cold war requires that the parties be mutually deterred by the threat of death. Notions of martyrdom and jihad run roughshod over the logic that allowed the United States and the Soviet Union to pass half a century perched, more or less stably, on the brink of Armageddon. We must come to terms with the possibility that men who are every bit as zealous to die as the September 11 hijackers may one day get their hands on long-range nuclear weaponry.

It is not at all clear how we should proceed in our dialogue with the Muslim world. But deluding ourselves with euphemisms is not the answer. Our press should report on the terrifying state of discourse in the Arab press, exposing the degree to which it is a tissue of lies, conspiracy theories and exhortations to recapture the glories of the 7th century. All civilized nations must unite in condemnation of a theology that now threatens to destabilize much of the Earth. Muslim moderates, wherever they are, must be given every tool necessary to win a war of ideas with their coreligionists.

Otherwise, we will have to win some very terrible wars in the future'.


Sam Harris is the author of "The End of Faith: Religion, Terror, and the
Future of Reason."

Source: The Washington Times
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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 6th January 2005 04:34
hmmm...

Your purpose for pasting this article here?
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Every thinking person in the Muslim world understands that if our goal had been to kill Iraqis and steal their oil, millions of Iraqis would now be dead and their oil would be flowing. The terrible truth about our predicament in Iraq is that even if we had invaded with no other purpose than to remove Saddam Hussein from power and make Iraq
a paradise on Earth...[/quote]
How many more millions you plan to kill before we can say you've killed millions of Iraqis? Americans have killed more than 2 million Iraqis (1/3 of children under 5) through its 13-years of genocidal sanctions. If that wasn't enough for them, they invaded and occupied Iraq to terrorize and loot Iraqis. At least 100,000 more innocent Iraqis have been killed and more are being killed everyday under the pretext of liberating Iraqis while you sit here and post piece of trash like this.

I'm sure Iraqis were a lot happier living in "Iraq on Earth" than American version of "paradise on Earth". Maybe Americans should make America a paradise on Earth for themselves.

As far as Americans stealing Iraqis' oil...

A report published by Christian Aid showed that the Bush administration failed to account for what it has done with some $20 billion of Iraqi oil revenues.

Also, Sir Menzies Campbell demanded that America should be investigated over Iraq's oil revenues from which another $3.7 billion is missing. The oil of Iraq is the property of wealth of Iraqi people, and should not be stolen by the US.

So yeah millions of Iraqis are dead and oil is flowing...

www.khilafah.com/home/category.php?DocumentID=9817&Ta... (no, im not HT)

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The Iraqi people have been traumatized by this war and by decades of
repression. But this does not explain the type of violence they wage against us on a daily basis. War and repression do not account for suicidal violence directed against the Red Cross, the United Nations, foreign workers and Iraqi innocents. War and repression would not have attracted an influx of foreign fighters willing to sacrifice their lives merely to sow chaos. [/quote]
The decades of repression was due to US led sanctions not because Iraq was poor or repressed by its own people. I dont see why you're complaining about the violence now. Iraqis didn't ask you people to come to Iraq so that they can wage violence against you. It was you people who initially waged war against them, destroyed their homes and infrastructure, killed their families, tortured and humiliated their loved ones, and made them prisoners in their own country. So, take your sacred lives else where and get out of Iraq.

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The truth that we must finally confront is that Islam contains specific doctrines about martyrdom and jihad that directly inspire Muslim
terrorism.

It is time we admitted that we are not at war with "terrorism." We are at
war with Islam. This is not to say that we are at war with all Muslims, but
we are absolutely at war with the vision of life that is prescribed to all
Muslims in the Koran. The only reason Muslim fundamentalism is a threat to us is because the fundamentals of Islam are a threat to us. Every American should read the Koran and discover the relentlessness with which non-Muslims are vilified in its pages. The idea that Islam is a "peaceful religion hijacked by extremists" is a dangerous fantasy - and it is now a particularly dangerous fantasy for Muslims to indulge.

Finally, the cowards admit that its war against Islam not war on terrorism. The biggest terrorist is the US who attacks and terrorizes defenseless people and countries.

Islam will prevail, insha'Allah, and there's nothing you can do :)

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Our press should report on the terrifying state of discourse in the Arab press, exposing the degree to which it is a tissue of lies, conspiracy theories and exhortations to recapture the glories of the 7th century. All civilized nations must unite in condemnation of a theology that now threatens to destabilize much of the Earth. Muslim moderates, wherever they are, must be given every tool necessary to win a war of ideas with their coreligionists.

Otherwise, we will have to win some very terrible wars in the future'.

I sense FEAR!!!! :D

Allahu Akbar!
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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 7th January 2005 20:06
I sense an excellent reply mashaAllah.. Jazakumullah for that
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