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#31 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd October 2006 16:54
ALLAH bless you sister shahly for the articles you have posted....may ALLAH bless you with the best in both worlds inshaALLAH ameen....i really enjoyed readng what you wrote..anf sister rujie...that article by sister Yasmin is spot on...misconceptions i feel are mainly started by lack of knowledge and also by the media.....being covered up does not change who you are as a person....it only changes how others may see you....i feel more safer being covered up than i ever did when i was wearing normal clothes.....and to be honest (just a personal note) i feel women make decisions wih there hearts where as men tend to make them with there brain so......ALLAH is our creator and he knows best......smile
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#32 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd October 2006 20:46
"MUSLIMAH_119 wrote:
ALLAH bless you sister shahly for the articles you have posted....may ALLAH bless you with the best in both worlds inshaALLAH ameen....i really enjoyed readng what you wrote..anf sister rujie...that article by sister Yasmin is spot on...misconceptions i feel are mainly started by lack of knowledge and also by the media.....being covered up does not change who you are as a person....it only changes how others may see you....i feel more safer being covered up than i ever did when i was wearing normal clothes.....and to be honest (just a personal note) i feel women make decisions wih there hearts where as men tend to make them with there brain so......ALLAH is our creator and he knows best......smile


Aaameen ! Alhamdulillah, I'm glad you enjoyed reading it, I hope, insha Allah that it was accurate and of benefit.
"Women make decisions with their hearts, and men with their brains"
Allahuakbar - it is such a simple truth and yet the heart still aches over these 'brainy' decisions they make!
Please remember this anguished sister in your duas.
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when a woman hits a male, it's ok (it was probably required).

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just take care of the children and cook food at home

hmmm ... just ? ok, I'll take your word for it
but yes, there is mutual responsibility on both the women and men of the ummah to take their individual and collective responsibilities on for the sake of Allah (SWT), leaving aside their selfish desires.
Duty on the women to be the best possible wives and mothers, and on the men to be the best possible husbands and fathers.
I've wanted to quote this since the discussion began, but just haven't got round to it

The Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said:

The best of you is the one best to his wife. I am the best among you to his wife (Tirmidhi, Darimi).

Umm Salama reported that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "Any woman who dies at a time when her husband is pleased with her will enter the Garden." [Riyadh as Saaliheen]

Khalaas. Now all we need is the tawfeeq to practice on this, insha Allah.
Allahummaghfirlana warhmana wadkhilnal jannata ma'al abraar. Aameen
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#33 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd October 2006 22:40
sister shahly, u truly are a gem.


but, i just want say 'jazakillah' to the sister who brought alive this topic which could have been left reported. (muslimah, i think)


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when a woman hits a male, it's ok (it was probably required).
--------too right!!


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just take care of the children and cook food at home
------- this is a chore which just takes the life out of u. active kids n all, cooking, cleaning etc its all too much sometimes. though id prefer that anyday to working.

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#34 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd October 2006 22:56
I never meant it in a negative way or in a way which makes it sound like the task or responsibility is easy, I promise : ) Honestly speaking, Allah has created a female strong enough to take on those duties every single day and no 2 days would feel the same. I say that should make a woman proud and not the opposite thinking "I want my rights, freedom, democracy" Okay i'm drifting off topic now. but you get the point Wassalam
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#35 [Permalink] Posted on 4th October 2006 00:21
i have to say women are definately mentally stronger and men physically...this is my own personal view....mainly because women have to put up with a lot of changes in there lives..whereas men just tend to go along with it......Sister shahly you are in my dus inshaALLAH........im glad that this topic has started because there are alot of confused females out there who do need guidance from fellow muslim sisters...who have had there own fair share of experiences.
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#36 [Permalink] Posted on 4th October 2006 09:10
Speaking as a lawyer, i can understand the requirement of two female witnesses in a court case. Just imagine there was a female witness. A lawyer would obviously want to discredit her and this could be done by asking her if she was drunk etc. Another way she could be discredited is if it could be proved that her mental state of mind was affected at the relevant time. It is scientifically proven (please back me up on this, sisters!) that the female's thinking is adversely affected for a few days every month. The lawyer would then have to ask embarrassing questions about the duration of her period s etc in an open court. Allah SWT has PROTECTED women from such a distressing experience.
For those who bang on about equality, why is the alleged rape victim allowed to remain anonymous, but the alleged offender is named and shamed even before he is found guilty?
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#37 [Permalink] Posted on 4th October 2006 11:32
A bit late in replying, I did read what brother Yasin wrote yesterday.


Sister shahly well said!!


"Don't you think that females not accepting who they are"


I don't agree with what you've written although you said not in a negative way towards women.
I can accept who and what my duties are, just like the rest of the sister above, I know you don't mean it to anyone directly. But you should atleast said the people with no deen. Because those who submit their selves to Allah are unlikely to question Allah authorities.


One thing women are, "Sensitive", I think that's the reason Allah has give men more power and are stronger. So if you do hit a women they will defiantly get hurt or bruised and then if you say something horrible or negative to women they will hoof and pouf for days (some).


I personal think men and women are the same when it comes to habit, acceptance etc etc. women gossip but then there are men who do the same, men can be impatience but so can women. My mum use to say "Adom (human) are never perfect" we all have faults.


See men and women are equal in one thing having fault LOL.


Ok I can believe if has been proven women forget quicker, but women are much more smarter then men that has been proven, best result in education etc.


We live in a western country so there will be this issue on 'women right'. If we muslim women are firm in our belief, no one can influence our view on the way a women should be according to Islam I studied sociology thank to them, women can drive so it not all bad.


I believe its all about faith in Allah All Mighty, if you have it you have nothing to question or object.


Lastly for Sweet16. Universal truth ,Life isn't fair weather you are a men or women the quick you accept this you be less disappointed with life.
"As this Life is a blink one an eye" your eternal and happiness (provided you pleased Allah) is the hereafter.

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#38 [Permalink] Posted on 4th October 2006 11:34
A bit late in replying, I did read what brother Yasin wrote yesterday.


Sister shahly well said!!


"Don't you think that females not accepting who they are"


I don't agree with what you've written although you said not in a negative way towards women.
I can accept who and what my duties are, just like the rest of the sister above, I know you don't mean it to anyone directly. But you should atleast said the people with no deen. Because those who submit their selves to Allah are unlikely to question Allah authorities.


One thing women are, "Sensitive", I think that's the reason Allah has give men more power and are stronger. So if you do hit a women they will defiantly get hurt or bruised and then if you say something horrible or negative to women they will hoof and pouf for days (some).


I personal think men and women are the same when it comes to habit, acceptance etc etc. women gossip but then there are men who do the same, men can be impatience but so can women. My mum use to say "Adom (human) are never perfect" we all have faults.


See men and women are equal in one thing having fault LOL.


Ok I can believe if has been proven women forget quicker, but women are much more smarter then men that has been proven, best result in education etc.


We live in a western country so there will be this issue on 'women right'. If we muslim women are firm in our belief, no one can influence our view on the way a women should be according to Islam I studied sociology thank to them, women can drive so it not all bad.


I believe its all about faith in Allah All Mighty, if you have it you have nothing to question or object.


Lastly for Sweet16. Universal truth ,Life isn't fair weather you are a men or women the quick you accept this you be less disappointed with life.
"As this Life is a blink one an eye" your eternal and happiness (provided you pleased Allah) is the hereafter.

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#39 [Permalink] Posted on 4th October 2006 12:01
Assalamu Alaykum,

"rujie wrote:
I know you don't mean it to anyone directly. But you should atleast said the people with no deen.
I totally agree, I should have said that and I'm hoping that is the message which was taken.

"rujie wrote:
Ok I can believe if has been proven women forget quicker, but women are much more smarter then men that has been proven, best result in education etc.
One of my teachers told us how women never forget things no matter how detailed. Especially when you are at fault and they'll remind you constantly (brilliant quality lol). So i'm not sure how they scientifically proved it, by weighing the female brain or by giving a hundred women something to remember? Maybe women forget things that are irrelevant or not important to them, which doesn't mean that they forget. I can't come to terms about them forgetting, maybe it's about remembering, when asked about something of the past like in the court cases, they don't remember 100% depending on her emotional state.

Also, sayin women are smarter than men and then the guys sayin we're smarter is just kicking off a tennis match with no net or boundaries. Women and Men both are smart and both are weak. Every person is different, every person has a different level of knowledge and power of deduction and common sense. One of the weakest students in my class would sometimes work out things at an unbelievable speed, it would shock us. The fact is, it was his thing, that doesn't make him smarter. So I'm hoping that this playground tease of we're smarter than you nanana don't start. We're better than that.

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Universal truth ,Life isn't fair weather you are a men or women the quick you accept this you be less disappointed with life.
Dangerous territory. With this belief, a person becomes weak and insecure and to an extent, upset with the Lord (us being humans). Life is always fair, and the reason for that is the hereafter. For anyone who believes in the hereafter will realize that every hardship will hit a dead end. And that dead end will have a door, beyond the door is the reward. When one accepts fate, situations, hardships, pain, they have already passed 50% of the trial by accepting it. Then it's about getting through it. Knowing that Allah سبحانه وتعالى is the only one who can give it and also clear us of it will make us turn to Him and then we will find is so much easier. What makes it hard is the fact that we think "life isn't fair", "why me?" "why do i deserve this?" etc. We are tiny tiny creations and we can NEVER question our Lord.

Never say life isn't fair, coz that would be unfair. It isn't a free life which makes life fair, it's wanting a free life without Allah and His Deen which makes our life unfair. And the difference between the two are determined by our own actions. So Life is fair, the sooner we accept it, the more content we will be no matter how many tears roll.

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#40 [Permalink] Posted on 4th October 2006 13:35
well said admin.

im sorry, i wasnt offended by what u said regarding womens chores. i was just speaking from the top of my head.


& hey, we definitely dont want a heated debate regarding gender equality.
lets just all accept, men & women both have their good & bad points. every individual is different & hold different capabilities, abilities, strength (physical/mental) etc.... it goes on....

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#41 [Permalink] Posted on 4th October 2006 13:47
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Never say life isn't fair, coz that would be unfair. It isn't a free life which makes life fair, it's wanting a free life without Allah and His Deen which makes our life unfair. And the difference between the two are determined by our own actions. So Life is fair, the sooner we accept it, the more content we will be no matter how many tears roll.



Alhamdulillah - very well elucidated... after a couple of re-reads !
If fairness is when life meets our expectations of it, then yes ofcourse, life is 'unfair'. But fairness is that every action is recorded and will be held to account. This is Allah's warning and promise. A warning to those who do injustice and a promise to those who suffer the injustice.

Only recently, in a moment of weakness, I was thinking 'what has that sister done to deserve such and such a bounty which I do not have'...
Alhamdulillah, I quickly realised that there were innumerable sisters who would be looking at me thinking 'what has that sister done to deserve such and such bounty which I do not have' ... What have I done to deserve the bounties I enjoy ? Astaghfirullah - Allah knows best, but most likely, any good deeds I have are far exceeded in number by my sins. I am not deserving of the bounties Allah has bestowed upon me, but what I must be is grateful for them all.

Reminds me of the instance when Hazrat Umar (RA) when encountering a person who was deaf, dumb, and blind, commented words to the effect, "alhamdulillah, at least he does not have difficulty in passing water" (someone please correct if i made an error in the narration)
This is no insignificant gift ! If you were unable to pass waste out of your body, you would very quickly deteriorate into a seriously ill state and suffer much pain and discomfort.

May Allah give us all the ability to act in accordance to His will, deal justly with his creation and be thankful to Him for his infinite bounties. Aaameeen !

The bottom line is that He, Allah, created us. We had no say in our creation nor do we have say in our existence. We are His slaves willingly or unwillingly, knowingly or unknowingly. If we are obedient, we will achieve peace on this earth and pleasure in the hereafter. If we are not, we will achieve neither in either - even the pleasures of this world will not give you peace !

(Just spent a few minutes rifling through the pages of a book in vain)
I was hoping to quote a narration of a conversation which took place between Adam (AS) and Allah (SWT) when Allah questions Adam thus: " Why did you not say that You, Oh Allah, you created me and had decreed for me to eat from the tree? So why punish me thus? "
And Adam (AS) replied, " O Allah, my love and respect for you did not allow me to challenge your decree "
OR WORDS TO THAT EFFECT - I will continue to search insha Allah. (It was in a book called 'Signs of the Unseen' by Shaykh Jalaluddin Rumi. Translated by W. M. Thackston)

Fee amaanillah,
Wassalaam

Admin: If *any* portion of any post of mine is doubtful or disagreeable, please do not hesitate to edit it. Jazakallah Khairun

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#42 [Permalink] Posted on 4th October 2006 14:40
Assalamu Alaykum, Of course it isn't men Verses women apologies for that and for "Life unfair"

Yasin wrote: Never say life isn't fair, coz that would be unfair. It isn't a free life which makes life fair, it's wanting a free life without Allah and His Deen which makes our life unfair. And the difference between the two are determined by our own actions. So Life is fair, the sooner we accept it, the more content we will be no matter how many tears roll.

That is something to reflect on. And what sister shahly wrote.

shahly wrote: May Allah give us all the ability to act in accordance to His will, deal justly with his creation and be thankful to Him for his infinite bounties. Aaameeen !

Ameen


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#43 [Permalink] Posted on 4th October 2006 19:11


sweet16, go to this website http://www.sulaimanmoola.com/Download.html go to menu and click 'BEAUTY OF A MUSLIM WOMEN' all ur questions will be answered inshallah as this speech covers it all...hope it helps you to see the wonders of islam ....even others sisters and brothers i advice you all to listen to this specific speech.


wasalam

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#44 [Permalink] Posted on 4th October 2006 19:30
Assalamu Alaykum,


Masha'Allah great answers from everyone. Sister mus1ma, Jazakallah for the link but I am aware of the fact that sister sweet16 doesn't have interent at home at the moment so she will not be able to listn to it just yet however, could someone summarise the answers to her questions the way sister shahly summarised the questions of sister sweet16?


Jazakallah


Wassalam

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#45 [Permalink] Posted on 4th October 2006 19:47
Assalamualaykum warahmatullah,


This topic has unlocked many doors; alhamdulilah!
Jazaka'Allah xmuslimahx, for bringing this back. It is amazing to see how we can all work together to help eaach other out fisabilillah.- I hope that there are many more opportunities like this to come.


May Allah give us all the taufeeq to understand Allah's deen the way it should be and may He give us the ability to stay guided along siratul mustaqeem, for only He can guide the misguided. Ameen wa thuma ameen.


The talk mus1ima posted up is v.good,please sweet 16 when you are able to get access please listen to it insha'Allah.


Ameen to all duaas.
Wassalam.

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