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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 2nd October 2006 22:22
sorry engIish bear mashed in my thread above. Just got back from Iong tarabih aIso got a dodgey keyboard with no L!!
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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd October 2006 09:56
As a brother, i must say that i'm very impressed by the pearls of wisdom from my numerous fellow sisters.
I believe there are two things that entrench the views of the misguided youth. Firstly, do not confuse Islam with the majority of Muslims. The two are distinct and separate. At the time of our Prophet SAW and the following generations, Islam and Muslims were the one and the same thing. However, nowadays, if we were to look at the average Muslim, (who doesn't even pray salaat) and then try to present his actions as being islamic, that would be a gross misinterpretation of Islam. Hopefully the situation will change as more Muslims become more practicing (in accordance with the true teachings of Islam).
Secondly, the views of the youth are almost entirely based on the powerful islamophobic media. For eg. they bang on about a woman being only entitled to half a male's share in inheritance matters, but conveniently forget to mention that the quran has nearly twice as many categories of female inheritors than male inheritors (thus equalising any perceived inequality). They'll never mention the fact that a female has the RIGHT to be maintained without her having to go to work. They believe anyone who covers must have been forced to do it, but would label me to be mad if i queried whether their nuns were forced to cover their heads ! They harp on about muslim women having to be accompanied by a male when travelling, but remain silent whenever a young girl is sexually assaulted or even raped/killed due to being alone. They criticise the Taleban for closing girls schools, but vote as their no 1 national hero (Winston Churchill) who did the same thing during the war. Youngsters must learn not to believe everything that the BBC, SKY, CNN, The Sun etc tell them about islam.
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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd October 2006 09:56

This is for all the sister


I won't worship your beauty standards, and I don't submit to your fashion sense. My submission is to something higher.


Growing up, you read me the Ugly Duckling. And for years I believed that was me. For so long you taught me I was nothing more than a bad copy of the standard.

I couldn't run as fast or lift as much. I didn't make the same money and I cried too often. I grew up in a man's world where I didn't belong.

And when I couldn't be him, I wanted only to please him. I put on your make-up and wore your short skirts. I gave my life, my body, my dignity, for the cause of being pretty. I knew that no matter what I did, I was worthy only to the degree that I could please and be beautiful for my master. And so I spent my life on the cover of Cosmo and gave my body for you to sell.

I was a slave, but you taught me I was free. I was your object, but you swore it was success. You taught me that my purpose in life was to be on display, to attract, and be beautiful for men. You had me believe that my body was created to market your cars. And you raised me to think I was an ugly duckling.

But you lied.

Islam tells me, I'm a swan. I'm different-it's meant to be that way. And my body, my soul, was created for something more.

God says in the Quran: 'O mankind, We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female and made you into nations and tribes, that you may know one another (not that you may despise each other). Verily, the most honored of you in the sight of God is the one who is most righteous? (Quran 49:13).

So I am honored. But it is not by my relationship to men. My value as a woman is not measured by the size of my waist or the number of men who like me. My worth as a human being is measured on a higher scale: a scale of righteousness and piety. And my purpose in life-despite what the fashion magazines say-is something more sublime than just looking good for men.

And so God tells me to cover myself, to hide my beauty and to tell the world that I'm not here to please men with my body; I'm here to please God. God elevates the dignity of a woman's body by commanding that it be respected and covered, shown only to the deserving-only to the man I marry.

So to those who wish to 'liberate' me, I have only one thing to say:

Thanks, but no thanks.

I'm not here to be on display. And my body is not for public consumption. I will not be reduced to an object, or a pair of legs to sell shoes. I'm a soul, a mind, a servant of God. My worth is defined by the beauty of my soul, my heart, my moral character. So, I won't worship your beauty standards, and I don't submit to your fashion sense. My submission is to something higher.

With my veil I put my faith on display-rather than my beauty. My value as a human is defined by my relationship with God, not by my looks. So I cover the irrelevant. And when you look at me, you don't see a body. You view me only for what I am: a servant of my Creator.

So you see, as a Muslim woman, I've been liberated from a silent kind of bondage. I don't answer to the slaves of God on earth. I answer to their king.

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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd October 2006 10:21
Assalamu Alaykum,


Everyone who has participated in this topic should know that you have made this topic one of the most interesting topics on the forum. Jazakumullah.


Wassalam


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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd October 2006 10:38
wow sister rujie, that was a beauty. where did u extract that from? (an article or from ur brain??!!?)


may i have permission to paste this and send it as a 4warded e-mail for others to read. it truely is inspiring and the shocking truth!!


ameen ti site admins dua:

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Jazakumullah.


taqwa, ur right in what u say.

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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd October 2006 11:01
The authors name is Yasmin Mogahed and the letter is entitled "A letter to the culture that raised me" You might find more information if you search by the name or title or the letter
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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd October 2006 11:05
site admin, when browsing through the forums and i come accross articles or hadiths etc that intrigue me, am i allowed to paste and 4ward to others?


others who i may think will benefit from it??

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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd October 2006 11:09
Assalamu Alaykum


Yeh why not,
No I'm not half that talented, I receive it via e-mail.


It is a great inspiration and very powerful words


Someone got the article off Islamic Forum! It called - This was a letter to the Culture that raised me By: Yasmin Mogahed

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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd October 2006 11:30
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site admin, when browsing through the forums and i come accross articles or hadiths etc that intrigue me, am i allowed to paste and 4ward to others?


others who i may think will benefit from it??


ofcourse, give the URL to the page too. It'll bring more visitors to the site inshaAllah.

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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd October 2006 11:41


Jazakallah Rujie for sharing it with us - it was truly great.
Just some advice for sweet 16, make the most of the blessed days of Ramadhaan - turn to Allah and ask for help. Don't feel shy to ask anything if you're still in doubt.
I feel maybe you are just worried about getting married and fufilling your rights as a woman - it's not as scary as it seems !!! Obeying your husband is not as hard as it sounds, the man that you will marry will love you - he wouldn't want to treat you like some kind of slave. And about the permissibility of marrying again doesn't mean they will it's just made jaiz if the need arises.

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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd October 2006 13:17
hey, thanks 4 ur help every1, espesh shaylay! u really helped me...dere was something else i wanted 2 kno , it's something i heard nd i'm not sure if it's true or not, but apparantly when u need a witness for a case or something, the statement will only be valid if there are TWO female witnesses and for males it can just be one? is this is true? if so, then why? i heard it's something to do with females having less memory or something but then i'v also heard that one of the top judges in the UK is a female? does anybody else find this fair? :(:(:(
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#27 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd October 2006 13:23
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Assalamu Alaykum,

Everyone who has participated in this topic should know that you have made this topic one of the most interesting topics on the forum. Jazakumullah.

Wassalam

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lol inshallah i will be able 2 learn and correct my misconceptions from every1's help and knowledge.

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#28 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd October 2006 13:32
assalamu alaikum


i have heard it to be true too. im sure sister shahly or maybe some one else can enlighten u from the islamic point of view.
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i heard it's something to do with females having less memory or something
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i have also heard from a scientific point of view, that men have bettr memory than women. is that unfair too? or maybe not cos its scientific??!?


im happy its that way, bcos, if i had to remember to payoff my monthly bills, statements etc, (instead of the ever reliable husband of mine) i would have the balifs come down and take my belongings from the 1st time!!


also, when women have children, their memory does not seem to be as sharp as it had been yrs b4. (well i see it prevalent in women i know) ; )

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#29 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd October 2006 16:11
Salaam
Firstly, I just want to say that my heart is filled with love for you for the sake of Allah, swt16. I pray that Allah grants you peace and deep understanding of yourself, the world around you, it's people and most importantly a strong affiliation with Allah.

There are many articles discussing the issue of the Islamic requisite of two female witnesses in equivalence to one male witness. As I understand it, the crux of the matter is simply that Allah has, in general, made women less able to accurately and reliably store and transmit information in their minds. Two points here:

1) in general - which means that not ALL women are dopey, nor are ALL men super-smart and extra-sharp mentally. However, if you were to conduct extensive research you would find that the mental ability of men in GENERAL is superior to that of women. Pitching an intelligent woman against a less intelligent man does not disprove this fact.

2) Allah has created us this way - quite simply, no matter how much we wish to be in control of ourselves, we are only ever what Allah has created us to be. We can only control what is within our means to control, and even that, only by Allah's will. Take for example the brain as an organ. NOT a single human being uses 100% of his/her brain. In fact no-one uses even half of their brain. If we had a choice, wouldn't we all wish to be more intelligent ? We must never forget that we are NOT in control. Allah is. And if Allah has created these differences in the mental ability of men and women, it is utterly futile and also dangerous to question or doubt what Allah knows best - His creation.
A bit like challenging the brains behind the Pentium processor about the specifications he himself has stated.

On a personal note, and this is an observation I make with several years of experience... have you ever noted your success rate when calling customer services of any given company? By my findings I conclude that when a female answers your call, the chances of your issue coming to a satisfactory conclusion plummet !

Honestly ! If I have to phone customer services for a complex issue, and a woman answers the call, I feel like hanging up and trying again until a male replies. I don't have a problem with women dealing with the 'bread and butter' enquiries, but just not the complex ones.

Come on people ... tell me if you reciprocate this.

I'm not sexist. Allah has made women amazing in their own way and men amazing in their own way. Each has their own superb qualities, which when refined through akhlaaq, make either gender a pleasure to interact and deal with. (within shariah boundaries)

Another point - it is scientifically proven that significant changes occur in the brain of the female when she is menstruating. This alone is enough reason for society to be selective in the roles which they allocate to their womenfolk.
(To this day you still hear people ranting and raving over the foolish mistakes of prime ministress erm ... what's her name now ? Thatcher ! Yeah. Just this past Sunday, Galloway was having a major rant over the Thatcher years) And it's not just because she's a woman. A society which claims to be so fair to women wouldn't allow themselves to do that now, would they ?

May Allah give us the yaqeen to accept that which we do not have the capacity to understand, and grant us the tawfeeq to pursue that which benefits us in the aakhira.

Aameen.

Fee amaanillah
Wassalaam
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#30 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd October 2006 16:40
Don't you think that females not accepting who they are is enough to prove that Allah سبحانه وتعالى knows His creation better than we do therefore has given them less duties, responsibilities and in comparison to a male, less material/physical status. This in turn has definitely given women a higher status in many ways


Even in general things, when a woman hits a male, it's ok (it was probably required). But when a male hits a female, there is no excuse. No male can hit a woman the way he would hit a male. This itself is a gift from Allah to women that naturally, a female would not be treated like a male in cruel things.


So many females want the same rights as males, if a male asked to never work and just take care of the children and cook food at home, seriously, how long would the wife tollerate it and keep providing her hard earnt money? The husband never complains and provides as much as he can even if it means he takes less himself (The right religious practising husband that is).


The fact is, many females cannot accept who they are, they turn blind to their rights that Allah has given them and they find the so called 'equal rights' of the West to be the rights that women deserve. Ask yourself something, do you truly believe that the West understands women more than Allah سبحانه وتعالى?


This is not directed to anyone, it's just generally what bounces around in my head when I hear anyone talking about women not getting rights.

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