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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 25th September 2006 22:14

Salaam,


Please can someone explain Yarmi Shariff to me and Sheikh Qadir Jilani, and about who and when the Salafi's originated? Because I can't stop thinking about the sects of Islam etc, It's worrying.

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 26th September 2006 18:47

walaikumslaam bro!


Hey why dont you try and asking at the qa.muftisays.com/ see if you get an answer..well i am still waiting for one i sent an its been about 1 1/2 weeks..or do you just want us members to try and answer with our limited knowlege?.we wont trick you dont worry.

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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 26th September 2006 22:36
Yeah inshallah id like a member to answer - lol im stil waiting for a question too about khatams on the QA section :D


Salaam.

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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 26th September 2006 23:46

walaikumsalaam bro gathered some info for you..can some one please correct any mistakes jazakallah!


1.Sheikh Abdul Qadir Jilani Rahmatullahi Alayhi:


Sheikh Muhi Uddin Abdul Qadir Jilani (a.k.a Gilani) has been famous for centuries as the most popular and revered Saint of Islam.


He was the founder of the Qadriya order, the most tolerant and charitable of the Sunni order of the dervishes. This order claims countless followers throughout the Muslim world. His adherents, who knew him as 'Ghaus-e-Azam' (the highest in the hierarchy of Saints) revere him for his piety, humility, learning and gentleness of spirit.


Sheikh Abdul Qadir was born in 1077 in Nif, a village in the district of Gilan , Persia (to the north of current Iran ). On his father's side, his ancestry can be traced back in the direct line to Hazrat Imam Hassan and hence The Prophet Muhammad May Allah's peace and blessings be upon him. His mother was a saintly lady and also the daughter of a famous saint of that time.


Sheikh Abdul Qadir left his home at the age of eighteen in the pursuit of knowledge and he went to Baghdad, the great centre of learning. He attended the classes held by Tibrizi, the well-known Arab Philologist of the age. There he was initiated into the Sufism of the Abul Khair Muhammed School. This was a special mode of religious thinking and feeling. A Sufi lives rather a retired life in voluntary poverty in order to be better able to meditate on the Holy Qur'an by seeking to draw closer to Allah in prayer.


Sheikh Abdul Qadir received the Sufi dress called the 'Khirka', from his leader and patron Sheikh Qazi Abu Sa'ad Mubarak, head of the Muslim School of the Hambalite law. Not long afterwards, a Khanqah ( monastery ) was built for him. In 1134, the school of Mubarak al Mukharrini was enlarged by public subscription and the popular Sheikh was appointed as its head.


The Sheikh was a great theologian and an earnest, sincere and eloquent preacher. He prayed for all of mankind without distinction of race or creed. His sermons which he gave regularly in the School on Friday mornings and Monday evenings, and in the Khanqah on Sunday Mornings, breathed the spirit of charity and philanthropy. Some of his sermons which are entitled 'Futuh al Ghaib' are considered to be among the best pieces of Islamic literature ever written due to its matter and style and one of the great educative values to Muslims and non-Muslims alike. A considerable number of Christians and Jews were deeply influenced by his preaching and accepted the Divine faith.


His fame as a scholar and theologian spread far and wide. People from all parts of the world addressed him with their queries on religious and legal problems, and he failed to answer these to their entire satisfaction. Many people including rulers and wazirs figured among his disciples venerated the Saint for his unaffected simplicity, deep humanity and steadfastness of purpose.


In his childhood, his saintly mother had always counselled him to remain truthful, frank and honest whatever might happen, and like a dutiful son he made his mother's advice his watchword for life and acted upon his mother's advice.


Once, when he was going on a journey, she gave him a few gold pieces. The caravan was overtaken by robbers. When they asked him about what valuables he had with him, he showed them the gold pieces. The robbers were taken aback and asked him why he did not try to hide his money. He replied, "I hold the noble advice of my mother dearer than these few pieces of gold." The robbers were so moved by the noble spirit shown in this answer that they gave back all the property they had taken from him.


Sheikh Abdul Qadir is the patron Saint of the Kurds and is held in great veneration by the Muslims of the Indo-Pak sub-continent. The members of the Qadriya order may be counted in tens of thousands in central Asia, China, Java and Sumatra.


2.Gyarmi:


The specific rituals that you have mentioned undoubtedly fall in the category of bid'ah or innovation. The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) is reported to have: "Whoever innovates anything in this religion, which is not already prescribed therein, such a practice must be rejected." Thus, we are not allowed to introduce rituals of worship.


Having said this, I must say that according to the Prophetic Sunnah of the Prophet, a believer should start his meal by saying bismillah ar-rahman ar-raheem or (In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful) Bismillah wa'ala barakathillah and conclude his meal by thanking Allah.


There is no other ritual associated with food in Islam. Such practices are more likely traces of pagan customs that were prevalent in some societies, because they used to offer their foods to deities other than Allah or departed souls of their ancestors. Muslims should keep away from such superstitions and un-Islamic rituals."


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3.Salafi:


The Wahabis, who call themselves Salafis, are a group who had appeared in the last few centuries and hold beliefs contrary to the Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaa'ah.


They try to pull the wool over our eyes by affiliating themselves with the Salaf (Sahabah and Tabi'en) but in effect their beliefs and practices are completely in contradictory with those of the Salaf.


The Wahabis are in essence Mujassimah (anthropomorphists-Those who attribute
a body to Allah Ta'ala).


They attribute a hand, leg, face etc to Allah Ta'ala, while the illustrious Ulama of the Ahlus sunnah wal Jama'ah hold fast to the belief that Allah knows best the meaning of these words.


Similar is the case with all the sifat (qualities) etc in the Quran ie. the Wahabis take them on there apparent meaning , claiming that interpreting the Quran is not permissible, while we say that Allah knows best what it means or at times we interpret it in a suitable manner.


-The Wahabis reject the permissibility of using a deceased person as a intermediary in dua, while we hold that it is permissible.



-The Wahabis reject the Ambiyaa being alive in their graves



- The Wahabis hold that Allah is really resting on His throne in the sky, while we hold that this is from the Mutashabihaat.(Those unclear statements hose meaning is only known to Allah).



- The Ulama of the Ahlus sunnah wal Jamaa'ah disagree with the destruction of numerous blessed historical landmarks by the Wahabis.



-The Ulama of the Ahlus sunnah wal Jamaa'ah hold that taqleed of one mazhab is necessary, while the Wahabis generally do not adhere to a mazhab and claim that following one imam blindly is Bidah and shirk.



-There are dozens of other differences.


The Wahabis are vehement opponents of the Asharis and Maaturidis, who constitute the Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jama'ah and are two groups whose beliefs are correct. They also vehemently oppose tawassuf.


It is necessary for us to be on our guard against them as they are very active propagators of their Baatil and false beliefs.And Allah Ta'ala Knows Best.


Mufti Ebrahim Desai.


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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 27th September 2006 15:51
Jazak'Allah for this enlightenment, May Allah Reward You Highly! Ameen!
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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 27th September 2006 20:14
Your welcome Zakir Khan! we are here to help out inshallah..Ameen.. May Allah reward all of us and make our end the best best part our life.
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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 27th September 2006 22:40
Ameen!


And can I ask - all the mosques here hold a monthly Yarmi Sharif - and is that allowed?

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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 28th September 2006 15:29
Assalamualaikum bro,
Its not allowed,the word masjid is derived from the word sajdah-sujood..its a place of namaz and salah not for food smells and food feasts..thought they were called takaways.
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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 28th September 2006 16:17
ok - its cos masjids here do it and they call on saints
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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 28th September 2006 17:58
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masjids here do it and they call on saints
Tell me me a bit more brother just to increase my knowlege.
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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 28th September 2006 23:04
They call on saints by saying "ya abdur qadir jilani" etc and then they peform some zhikr which i havent found evidences, like movin hed left to right saying allah hu


and then saying khatam over food and eating it. and peformin a naat.

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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 28th September 2006 23:27
Jazakallah!..what about gyarmi? whats the exact reason they fix this 11th day of evey month for in conection to Sheikh Abdul Qadir Jilani رضي الله عنه
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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 29th September 2006 01:16
Cos of what he did, and they believe asking him for help will answer their prayers. isnt this shirk.
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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 29th September 2006 07:23
Sala,


Yes, the above is skirk. One must call unto Allah only for help. These are acts of bid'ah. If they were to call unto anyone, then wouldn't that be the prophet (SAW)? But even that's not allowed. Our rabb is Allah, we associate partners with Him not and from Him only do we seek help.

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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 29th September 2006 13:36
And can I ask is tawussal allowed? because I have a bad feeling about it, but sunnipath.com says its allowed.
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