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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 26th April 2026 16:58
This is purely based on personal experience.

TJ is a combination of Dawah to masses and a mobile Khanqah.

Offering dawah to common Muslims is an art and few TJ sathees posses that art. People like me do khurooj to spend time in deeni environment. As an alternative for this, can we have masajid, marakiz, islamic centres etc., where an environment is created similar to khurooj of TJ. Under the guidance of ulema, these ulema can be sponsored by the participants. The stay can range from 1 day to a month or more. The center must be open for 365 days in an year.

As I said, the daily schedule can have tahajjud and other nawafil, simple azkaar, tajweed halqas, taleem and muzakirah. A cook and few supporting staff can also be hired.

This reduces travel time, cooking, mujahidah of staying in tough environment etc.
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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 27th April 2026 10:04
It's a nice idea and perhaps would be very agreeable to the modern Muslims, but mujahidah is the crux of the effort of dawah. That's where its success lies, for the individual as well as for the collective Ummah.

Plus, the idea of cooking for yourself in turns in a jamaat is to instill a sense of khidmat of each other in the Muslims.

You must not forget that the movement of tabligh is ilhami. Maulana Ilyas رحمة الله عليه did not come up with the tarteeb on his own. If there would have been a better way it would have been shown to him. This was the best way, at least for those times and perhaps for half a century afterwards. And though I believe it's time for some new movement to engage the Ummah in the best way, it will have to be ilhami as well.
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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 27th April 2026 15:40
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I felt pity on youngsters from UK, South Africa, arab shuyookhs.... back home they lived a lavish and luxurious life. But here in sub-continent, dirty water, tasteless food, dirty toilets and bath rooms, sleep with mosquitoes and rodents. Their entire skin had mosquito bite marks.

This is over stretching of mujahidah.
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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 28th April 2026 13:27
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Bismillah.
It was very popular for Muslims from the west to go and stay, in Zawiyahs/Khanqahs abroad, Morocco, Hadramaut in Yemen, Syria,
before the civil war, Jordan all being popular locations.

Do you mean Tablighi Marakaz, were people from around the world can come and stay, and work on perfecting their character and their Deen. Instead of being sent out in Jamaat?
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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 28th April 2026 16:25
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Yes.
the young generation and the aged cannot afford to visit slums in cities and villages. So as an alternative a masjid or a place where brothers who intent to stay in islamic environment can visit this place. This depending on their convenience. It shall not be as strict as the khanqahi tarteeb, where tahajjud is a must (they abuse someone who won't offer tahajjud or don't practice aamaal of tasawuf). Simple tarteeb like 4 nafl salah (optional), 3 azkars twice daily. tajweed halqa, taleem and simple muzakirah. But no physical mujahidah, the participants shall sponsor the ulema and brothers who do khidmath. This places shall be open 365 days an year. No compulsion, participants themselves decide how many days they would like to spend here.
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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd May 2026 10:48
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You want aashrams basically
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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 6th May 2026 01:42
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I haven't visited any Ashram, don't know what are the activities there.
But you can seriously think of reducing the burden of mujahidah on modern youth. Also it can attract one who can not afford offering mujahidah.
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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 7th May 2026 16:34
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Tableeghi jamaath is working on two fronts.

  • Islah of its participants
  • Islah of Masses, remote countries, local remote places, members in ummah who are not connected with deen in their own countries.

But many new youths and aged seniors etc. give up khurooj because they can't bear the hardships in khurooj. My view is relevant to these groups in ummah. Time spent away from homes and workplaces in deeni environment......... their only mujahidah is that they are away from their luxuries at home.
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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 8th May 2026 08:23
​The risk is that many people and not just the intended audience will abandon the khanqah and Tablighi Jamaat to opt for this new light version. Both the khanqah and Tablighi Jamaat grew organically, which means any new method would have to do the same thing. It needs to start in one masjid or location so that others can see the success and copy it for themselves.
​You can spend as many days as you want away in deeni environments, but if there is no maahol in your own locality when you return, your hype will quickly die down and you will go to zero. This is the reason why you have to take part in the five aamals in tabligh. Without that local effort, the effects of your four months or forty days will evaporate just like ice on a hot sunny day.
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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 8th May 2026 19:09
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We are not discussing TJ members who are regular in khurooj and local A'maal.

We are discussing saathees who miss khurooj due to extreme mujahidah and shy away from local A'amaal to avoid tashkeel for khurooj, we can offer them a middle path. Of course the new methodology cannot assure the returns of khurooj in tableegh, but "something is better than nothing"
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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 9th May 2026 00:09
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I understand your point and I know you are thinking about the brothers who feel they just cannot manage the physical pressure. However the phrase something is better than nothing can be a bit of a trap when it comes to spiritual training. If we offer a version of the work that has no real sacrifice or struggle then we might just be giving people a false sense of achievement. They might feel like they have fulfilled their religious duty while their inner state remains exactly the same because their comfort was never challenged.

The bigger worry for me is that humans naturally look for the easiest route. If you create this middle path you will not just attract the newcomers but you will also see the dedicated brothers slowly drifting toward the easier option too. Eventually the original effort that requires real mujahidah will just fade away because everyone has moved to the comfortable version. We have to remember that the purpose of being in a difficult environment is to break our pride and our dependency on luxuries. If we take that away then we are left with a nice gathering but not necessarily a transformative one.

Even if these brothers avoid the local work because they are afraid of being asked to go out for forty days we should be asking why that fear exists. Providing them an escape route might make them feel better in the short term but it does not help them overcome their attachment to this world. If you really believe this can work then it has to be proven on the ground in a single location first. We need to see if these brothers actually become more active in their own masajid afterward or if they just wait for the next comfortable retreat to come around. If we remove the service and the hardship then what is left to actually break the pride of a modern man who is used to being served everything on a silver platter?
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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 9th May 2026 11:26
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I agree.
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