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#76 [Permalink] Posted on 9th July 2024 18:28
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And a democratic system will provide all that?

Even if we kept deen aside, the numbers alone in a democracy wouldn't add up in Muslims' favor, not even a hundred years down the line.

And if you and the ulema there are more ambitious and want to change the demographic by converting Hindus, then may I remind you that the Tableeghi Jamat has now been operating for almost a hundred years and so far on a global scale, with all Muslim countries combined, we still don't have even 313 brave ulema, not common people, ulema, who would have enough emaan to mount a defense of the Palestinians against Israel, even if they knew that they would die in that attempt. Because that is the true spirit of Jihad.

Not that I am critical of TJ. They have achieved a lot when it comes to individual Muslims turning their lives around, it's just that as a collective, we are still short of that original goal of Maulana Ilyas'. This is just a reminder of the realities of trying to bring Hindustan towards Islam through verbal dawah alone.

The gist of what I am saying about your position and hopes as a Muslim in India is that when the left knee is wounded, you shouldn't be applying bandage to the right knee.
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#77 [Permalink] Posted on 9th July 2024 18:52
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1. Until 2014 the above mentioned acts were not happening. So our efforts are to restore pre-2014 period.
2. It is not in agenda of Tableegh Jamaath to liberate islamic countries. But who have it in their agenda, they claim to exist since hundreds of years, where are they, why didn't they liberate islamic countries? Why didn't they create 313 brave uelma. Blaming others is not an excuse.
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#78 [Permalink] Posted on 9th July 2024 21:37
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Representation is not about the religion of the MP.

It's whether or not the Muslim Community feels that the MP stands upright on key issues.

A Non-Muslim committed to the principles of justice will always be preferred over a Muslim who refuses to stand against genocide.
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#79 [Permalink] Posted on 11th July 2024 02:03
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Brother, you have mentioned issues but have not provided the requested evidence.
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#80 [Permalink] Posted on 11th July 2024 09:15
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Those incidents are experienced by we Indian Muslims.

Yesterday, the supreme court has given a judgement that an India man has to offer monthly maintenance amount to his divorced wife till she gets married, not during iddat period alone. Clear interference in Muslims personal Law.

It gets wajib on us to bring a secular government back through out vote.
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#81 [Permalink] Posted on 11th July 2024 09:59
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What are you on about? You think a secular govt. will overturn that law? The secularists are the champions of political correctness. And catering to the fitrah of women through laws is the height of political correctness. Hence this law.
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#82 [Permalink] Posted on 11th July 2024 12:07
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Whatever is happening now was not there before 2014. We would like to restore the previous secular government through our vote.
We can't expect 100% islamic governance in saudia or even Afghanistan.
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#83 [Permalink] Posted on 19th July 2024 13:13
Disturbing scenes from Leeds.
Similar incidents were counter productive for we Indian muslims, will the Muslims in UK wake up, learn from bitter Indian experiences.
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#84 [Permalink] Posted on 19th July 2024 14:18
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This incident has nothing to do with Muslims/Islam in Leeds!
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#85 [Permalink] Posted on 19th July 2024 14:59
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#86 [Permalink] Posted on 19th July 2024 15:54
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That is merely proof that no matter how much the Muslims try to appease the kuffar, they'll still be blaming us for any and all evils that befall them.
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#87 [Permalink] Posted on 19th July 2024 15:55
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It was Romanian Christians.
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#88 [Permalink] Posted on 19th July 2024 16:00
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#89 [Permalink] Posted on 7th August 2024 10:07
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VOTING IN INDIA

Question

Is it permissible for Muslims in India to vote for a non Muslim secular political party? According to the Ulama in India it is 'waajib' to vote. Muslims are being oppressed, persecuted and even lynched by the orthodox Hindus who are today in power. The stated policy of the extremist Hindus is to commit genocide to kill or convert all Muslims to Hinduism and all Musjids will be made temples of idol worship.

The secular party is opposed to the evil policies of the extremists and if they should come to power, Muslims will be safe. In this scenario will it be permissible to vote?

Answer

The reasoning underlying the permissibility view in India is valid. Voting in this case is not for accepting the law of Taghoot. It is a strategy in a situation of life and death. Based on the principles of the Shariah, it will be permissible to vote in India.

However, it is essential that Muslims understand that despite the Fiqhi permissibility, it is never the solution. It will not save Muslims from the Athaab of Allah Azza wa Jal. The punishment of Allah in India is in the form of brutal oppression of the cow and idol worshippers. The Punishment of Allah Ta'ala cannot be averted nor eliminated by voting or by any other means besides repentance, obedience and Sabr.

When Bani Israaeel com- to Nabi Musaa plained. (Alayhis salaam) about the brutal oppression and persecution of Fir oun, he advised them:

"Seek help from Allah and have Sabr (Patience). Verily, The earth belongs to Allah. He bestows it to whomever of His servants He wills. And, the ultimate victory is for the Muttaqeen.

Source: Al-Haq Bulletin Number 71
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