Forum Menu - Click/Swipe to open
 

MAULANA SAAD'S MOST CONTROVERSIAL SPEECHES

You have contributed 0.0% of this topic

Thread Tools
Appreciate
Topic Appreciation
due2myweakness
Rank Image
Offline
Unspecified
40
Brother
24
#1 [Permalink] Posted on 7th September 2023 01:19
Alhamdulillah, we have composed a list of Maulana Saad's most controversial speeches with AUDIO

According to Wifaaqul Ulema Al-Hind, Maulana Saad’s errors can be categorized into three:
  • 1) Ghuloo’ – Excessive exaggeration in matters of deen
  • 2) Deviating from the Ijma
  • 3) Self styled Ijtihaads


CLICK HERE: Maulana Saad's most controversial speeches

We have nothing against his followers who are our Muslim brothers as well. InshaAllah they are sincere and just don't understand the reality. How can we let someone this controversial be the face of Da'wa? Let's all make Du'a and unite back.

Jazakumullah Khair
report post quote code quick quote reply
+2 -0Like x 2
back to top
Rank Image
Servant.Of.Allah's avatar
Offline
Unspecified
654
Brother
571
Servant.Of.Allah's avatar
#2 [Permalink] Posted on 8th September 2023 07:44
..........
report post quote code quick quote reply
+0 -1Dislike x 1
back to top
Rank Image
faizanakram99's avatar
Srinagar, JK, India
11
Brother
2
faizanakram99's avatar
#3 [Permalink] Posted on 30th September 2023 13:42
Bruh you should read bayanaat of Maulana Yousuf kandhalwi (rahimahullah) and malfuzaat of Maulana ilyas (rahimahullah), both of them contain even more controversial stuff if you will just cherry pick things without context and without understanding the bigger meaning.

Also, what about ulemas who actively are participating in activities of Nizamuddin, and not only from India but from all over the world.

Are all of those deviant?

Every year thousands of ulema leave for 1 year in kharooj from Nizamuddin and all the time there are a lot ulema as muqeem or in tarteeb in Nizamuddin.

Are those all wrong?


All this said, just imagine if a suhabah would have been alive today, what effort exactly would he do? Just give it a thought, would he be inviting non muslims? Would he be waiting for people to come and seek knowledge? Would he be earning halal rizq? What effort do you think he would do? If you know anything about their seerah, you'll have your answer.
report post quote code quick quote reply
No post ratings
back to top
Rank Image
akbar703's avatar
Offline
India
1,696
Brother
131
akbar703's avatar
#4 [Permalink] Posted on 30th September 2023 17:26
faizanakram99 wrote:
View original post


You have concluded that Maulana saad sahib must be given a free hand to:

1. Attack on Asmat-e-Anbiya عصمت الانبیا

2. attack on adalat-e-sahabah عدالت صحابہ

3. Do tafseer bil raaye of quran تفسیر بالرائے

4. present his own tashreeh of hadith deviating from jamhoor ulema

5. Free flow of fatawa deviating from fatawa of jamhoor akabir salaf shuyookh.

Then, supporters of maududi sahib and other leaders will object, Why objections were raised against their leaders for similar actions that of maulana saad sahib.
report post quote code quick quote reply
No post ratings
back to top
Rank Image
Offline
Unspecified
283
Brother
60
#5 [Permalink] Posted on 1st October 2023 17:53
Still lots of infighting n argument, good thing i went to tabligh many years ago, no longer interest me.
report post quote code quick quote reply
No post ratings
back to top
Rank Image
akbar703's avatar
Offline
India
1,696
Brother
131
akbar703's avatar
#6 [Permalink] Posted on 1st October 2023 18:29
Saracen1 wrote:
View original post


If a case of disagreement is taken to a Qazi, the Qazi will never reprimand both the parties and advises them not to fight again.

The real Qazi is he listens to both the parties and offers his judgement favoring the party who is on haq.

If shia sunni fight, I shall never say, I am neither shia nor sunni

If Deobandi vs Salafi or barelvi or JIs argue, I shall never say, I am not from any one of the group.

The above statement is compiled after reading malfoozaat of Hakeemul ummat.
report post quote code quick quote reply
+1 -0Like x 1
back to top
Rank Image
akbar703's avatar
Offline
India
1,696
Brother
131
akbar703's avatar
#7 [Permalink] Posted on 2nd October 2023 13:34
In India we don't see any difference in masajid or visiting jamaat of both shoora and amarath.

I visited both marakiz and spend time with both jamaath.

The (theoretical) significant difference is:

1. Masjid ki aabaadi ki fikr for 24 hours. I didn't find them anywhere even during day time and in marakiz of amarath faction. ( we watch this only during weekly ijtima)

2. The practice of sahabah that a muslim must be brought to masjid and here deen must be explained to him. I haven't seen this anywhere. A symbolic activity in zealot masjids.

3. The slogan "Deen is for all, don't specifically target any group", like professionals, students, railway employees etc. They didn't target them, the result is representation of these groups is near zero. The sathees fear to report this to higher authorities.

So.... why sathees on field get involved in this disagreement, let us move together.

Allahumma allaf baina quloobil momineen... wa assleh zaaata bainihim.... Aameen

O Allah, forgive us and the believing men and women and Muslim men and women, unite their hearts with mutual love, set right their mutual affairs
report post quote code quick quote reply
No post ratings
back to top
Rank Image
akbar703's avatar
Offline
India
1,696
Brother
131
akbar703's avatar
#8 [Permalink] Posted on 4th October 2023 08:53


اللَّهُمَّ أَلِّفْ بَيْنَ قُلُوبِنَا، وَأَصْلِحْ ذَاتَ بَيْنِنَا، وَاهْدِنَا سُبُلَ السَّلَامِ، وَنَجِّنَا مِنَ الظُّلُمَاتِ إِلَى النُّورِ، وَجَنِّبْنَا الْفَوَاحِشَ مَا ظَهَرَ مِنْهَا وَمَا بَطَنَ، وَبَارِكْ لَنَا فِي أَسْمَاعِنَا، وَأَبْصَارِنَا، وَقُلُوبِنَا، وَأَزْوَاجِنَا، وَذُرِّيَّاتِنَا، وَتُبْ عَلَيْنَا إِنَّكَ أَنْتَ التَّوَّابُ الرَّحِيمُ، وَاجْعَلْنَا شَاكِرِينَ لِنِعْمِكَ مُثْنِينَ بِهَا عَلَيْكَ، قَابِلِينَ لَهَا، وَأَتِمِمْهَا عَلَيْنَا

Allahumma allif baina qulubina, wa aslih dhata bainina, wahdina subulas-salam, wa-najjina minad-dhulumati ilan-noor, wa jannibnal-fawahisha ma dhahara minha wa-ma batana, wa barik lana fi asmaina, wa absarina, wa qulubina, wa azwajina, wa dhurriyyatina, wa tub ‘alaina innaka anta-Tawwabur-Rahim, wa-j’alna shaakireena lini’mik muthneena biha ’alaik, qaabi-lina laha, wa ati-mimha ’alaina

O Allah! Reconcile our hearts, amend what is between us, guide us to the paths of peace, save us from the darkness [and admit us] to light, and save us from obscenities, inwardly or outwardly, and bless our hearing, seeing, hearts, spouses and offspring. And accept our repentance, indeed You are the Ever Accepting of Repentance, the Merciful, and make us thankful for Your favours. All praise is due to You. Accept our good deeds and complete them for us.
report post quote code quick quote reply
+0 -0Ameen x 3
back to top
Rank Image
Servant.Of.Allah's avatar
Offline
Unspecified
654
Brother
571
Servant.Of.Allah's avatar
#9 [Permalink] Posted on 8th October 2023 21:26
Last week I was reading the bayanat of hazratji yusuf sb rah. It explains how the Masjid was 24 hours aabadi, with salah, zikr , quran halaqa, ilm halaqa, etc.
It's also mentioned that anyone who comes to masjid will join in that particular amal.

Point 2 is mentioned in bayanat. Not sure why they deny that as well.

Problem is they don't read these stuffs.
They went against hazratji maulana saad sb dB, and went on a rampage to blindly deny all his sayings and forgot the seerah.

Alhamdulillah work in nizamuddin has increased in multitudes.

One srilanka saathi is came in the aalami shura jamaat. I said him the karguzari of brothers spending time in nizamuddin. He asked me if nizamuddin is open?? One new brother asked one person why are you doing separate taaleem. He said nizamuddin is closed now.

You can now imagine the style of the work people do, who deny maulana saad sb..
report post quote code quick quote reply
+0 -1Dislike x 1
back to top
Rank Image
Servant.Of.Allah's avatar
Offline
Unspecified
654
Brother
571
Servant.Of.Allah's avatar
#10 [Permalink] Posted on 8th October 2023 21:34
Dear global party of alami shura,
1. There is nothing in the way of 3 hazratji to criticize or blame someone in our speeches, that too with new brothers.

2. There is no tarteeb of hijacking muntakab hadith and hiding it in masjids. Whats this tarteeb?

3. Your work is to form 4m 40d local work efforts, by talking about greatness of Allah, etc and purpose of life and do tashkeel.

4.when you are talking against nizamuddin brothers, it clearly shows you have nothing except to break them or stop their efforts.

5. A real older worker will not go to complaining mode, crying in forums, distributing pamplets, forwarding fatwa
And audio; they thibk this is tabligh. Rather he will be busy in effort seeing the condition of ummah.
report post quote code quick quote reply
+1 -1Dislike x 1
back to top
Rank Image
akbar703's avatar
Offline
India
1,696
Brother
131
akbar703's avatar
#11 [Permalink] Posted on 9th October 2023 09:09
Servant.Of.Allah wrote:
View original post


Our concentration is on middle East now.
report post quote code quick quote reply
No post ratings
back to top
Rank Image
akbar703's avatar
Offline
India
1,696
Brother
131
akbar703's avatar
#12 [Permalink] Posted on 9th October 2023 12:57
Servant.Of.Allah wrote:
View original post


We shall not complain, answer one simple question:

"in which mashwarah majlis, Maulana saad sahib was appointed as Ameer of Aalam?"
report post quote code quick quote reply
+3 -0Like x 3
back to top
Rank Image
Servant.Of.Allah's avatar
Offline
Unspecified
654
Brother
571
Servant.Of.Allah's avatar
#13 [Permalink] Posted on 10th October 2023 13:11
akbar703 wrote:
View original post

All your questions are answered bro. Even if I give answer you will not accept and will be beating around the bush saying shura shura shura or bad mouthing maulana saad sb.

One thing I noticed more than nizamuddin-markaz brothers, the aalami brothers talk more about maulana saad sb.

I don't have any problem in you doing the effort for Allah, rather you are clearly trying to stop/break nizamuddin tarteeb.

Bro, you do work I have no issues. See in this forum you are not talking about the effort or atleast the fazail of aalami shura. But you constantly attack nizamuddin saathis, elders, maulana saad sb which is of no use but to create ENEMITY, HATRED, FIRQAA. Is this the tabligh that they teach you???
I know you will send some funny irrelevant, repeated qn on maulvi saad sb, etc like a bot...
report post quote code quick quote reply
+0 -1Dislike x 1
back to top
Rank Image
akbar703's avatar
Offline
India
1,696
Brother
131
akbar703's avatar
#14 [Permalink] Posted on 10th October 2023 13:41
Servant.Of.Allah wrote:
View original post


You didn't answer one simple question:

"in which mashwarah majlis, Maulana saad sahib was appointed as Ameer of Aalam?"
report post quote code quick quote reply
+0 -0Ha Ha x 1
back to top
Rank Image
faizanakram99's avatar
Srinagar, JK, India
11
Brother
2
faizanakram99's avatar
#15 [Permalink] Posted on 26th October 2023 19:49
akbar703 wrote:
View original post


Bruh, it seems you have difficulty comprehending things. I wish you well.

I'm unsubscribing from this thread, no point in useless discussion.
report post quote code quick quote reply
+0 -0Agree x 1
back to top