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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 25th July 2006 14:17
I agree with you entirely, I was just paraphrasing the following answer from aMufti Desai ; (If there's Ikthilaf, it's wise to err on the side of caution - it's not as if a wedding cannot go ahead without the daff)


Q: Muhtaram Mufti Saheb; Assalaamu Alaykum
Is it permissible to listen to Islamic songs with the sound of music in the background. Some people assert that beating of the Duff (drum) is established in Hadith.


A: To assert on the basis of some Ahaadith that to listen to Islamic songs with music in the background is incorrect. Several Ahaadith clearly prohibit the use of the drum as well as other musical instruments. Consider the following Ahaadith:


* Hadhrat Ibn Mas’ood (Radhiallaahu Ánhu) reports that Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) declared every wine, gambling, beating of drums and every intoxicant as Haraam. (Abu Dawud)


* Hadhrat Ali (Radhiallaahu Ánhu) narrates that Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) prohibited the beating of drums. (Kanzul Ummaal)


* The Kubah (drum) is Haraam. (Bayhaqi; Musnad Bazzar)


These Ahaadith are general and prohibit the beating of the drum. Those who claim that the beating of drums is permissible generally use the Hadith wherein it is reported that Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) said, ‘Announce the Nikah even though it be with the Duff.’ (Mishkat)


In another narration, it is reported that Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) passed by little girls who were beating drums. (Ibn Maajah)


However, to use these Ahaadith to substantiate the beating of drums as a musical instrument is baseless. The beating of drums on the occasions was for the purpose of announcement of a Nikah or the arrival of somebody or the sighting of the moon. There is no evidence whatsoever that drums were used merely for ‘entertainment’. Rather it is reported that when Umar (Radhiallaahu Ánhu) heard the sound of beating drums, he would send a person to inspect the occasion. If it was a Nikah (which was being announced by means of the drum) he would keep quite. Otherwise, he would punish those involved. (Fathul Qadeer)


In contemporary times there is no need to use the drum to announce any occasion, nor is it used for such purposes. In these times, it is used commonly as a musical instrument. The use of the drum as a musical instrument is expressly forbidden as has been clearly ascertained from the Ahaadith mentioned in the beginning. Also, music itself is expressly forbidden in Deen. Allah Ta’ala says:


* Almighty Allah Taãla says in the Noble Qurãn: ‘And there are some people who purchase idle talk… for them is a severe punishment’. Ibn Masóod (Radhiyallaahu Ánhu) says that this verse was revealed regarding singing.


* Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam) said, ‘Allah ordered me to destroy musical instruments.’


* Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam) said, ‘People from my Ummat will drink wine and give it other names and singing girls and musical instruments will be played before them. Allah will cause the earth to swallow them, and disfigure their faces into apes and pigs.’


* Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam) mentioned, ‘When singing girls and musical instruments becomes common, wait for red winds, earthquakes, the earth swallowing people, disfiguring and many more punishments.’ (Mishkãt 470)


In the light of the above, it is not permissible to hear Islamic songs having the sound of beating drums in the background.


Mufti Ebrahim Desai

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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 26th July 2006 10:51
Is there a difference between the drum and the daff? I have always been confused regarding this. Anyway, let me show you the one Mufti Muhammad ibn Adam said:


As far as “Daff” is concerned, to use it at the time of Nikah (wedding) is permissible according to all the Scholars. However, there is a difference of opinion regarding it’s usage at other times. Some Scholars have classed it as Makruh. Others however mention that it is permissible to use it at all times.


To listen to Nashids with “Daff” is permissible...

And Allah Knows Best
Muhammad ibn Adam Darul Iftaa Leicester , UK


I think we should just ask the muftis here insha'Allah...


Wassalam

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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 26th July 2006 13:21
Imam Malik's view is that listening to any and all musical instruments is
unlawful except the one-sided tambourine (daff) in a wedding and the
long drum (kibar); however, there is disagreement about the long drum
[and other drums].


I don't think anyone uses the daff at weddings as a form of announcement nowadays (the purpose of the daff), but use it as a form of entertainment. One could argue that the daff has been replaced by mobile phones, wedding invitations etc !

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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 31st July 2006 11:33
im rerally not sure about going to this mendi. i read in a book that mendis r haram full stop, taqwa50 says its ok if thers no haram stuff so im gonna ask u guys 4 opinion. just submit the word go in the quick reply box if u think i should "go" or "dont go" if u think not. can someone ask some ulama? its kinda urgent as the date looms closer
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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 31st July 2006 14:05
binte yusuf, you've already confirmed that there'll be no music, it will be segregated, salaat will not be missed etc. What exactly makes the invitation haraam ? Can u elucidate re the events surrounding the mendhi. correct me if i'm wrong, but I assumed you'll apply mendhi and have something to eat.
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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 31st July 2006 19:45
go with the right iintention, if u hav intention f going to maybe have fun with friends etc. enjoy ursdelf, thats prob okay but if u have intention that it's a mendhi that occurs before a wedding then that won't b okay i dont think as then that's bid'at.


rememeber, all actions r accordin to intention. if u have a good intention, go, if not then dont go.


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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 8th August 2006 17:49
Mehndi Parties are wrong full stop so i would say that do not go because it is not a islamic custom. Any thing which has been started by Non Believers is not right to do.

Whether there is music or not i have personally put this question myself to a student of Moulana Hussain Adam and he has said that mehndi Parties are not allowed BUT applying mehndi is allowed because it is Sunnah but PARTIES are not allowed in Islam


The best thing to do suggest is to put the question to a mufti yourself

ALLAH Knows best

Hope this helps

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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 16th March 2007 19:50
Wa alaikum salam


I've been using henna for years and teach how to apply it every 2 weeks at a mehndi course at a local college. I love it but have not been able to find it locally. the best kind of henna ive found is a kit called "zubeda henna" which contains the plastic cone, a decent amount of pure henna, stencils, oil and full instructions and is just under 10 pounds. You can find it on ebay or other online retailers but have not been able to find it locally - can anyone suggest a retailer I can buy it from in the UK?

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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 16th March 2007 20:07
I'm planning for my mate to have a bayhan in her mehndi but need some advice on where to get info from on marriage, characters of the mothers of islam??
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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 16th March 2007 20:53
Mehndi is a Hindu tradition, why have an Islamic Bayaan in an unIslamic event?
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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 16th March 2007 21:18
round and round we go where we'II stop nobody knows??


I'II ask mufti yassin in fajr tomorrow.

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#27 [Permalink] Posted on 16th March 2007 21:33
please note:
to beautify oneself by applying henna is fine, but it must be solely applied for the pleasure of ones husband, and even then, when one goes out she would have to cover her hands, so attention of ghair mahrim men cannot be drawn or attracted to it.


as far as i know all the henna's are ok to use, (for the correct reasons) except the one that peels off the nails, and i think that one is specifically designed for the nails and it contains tobbacco it looks good once its applied but the substance itself smells awful when applying (and thats an understatement).


nevertheless, personally have the above clarified, just to be on the safe side.

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#28 [Permalink] Posted on 16th March 2007 21:38
personaIIy i go with taqwa50 and taIibaah as if a sister is beautifying herseIf for her husband soIeIy then i dont see a prob - if thats not right then might as weII ban aII beautifying i.e any make-up, doing up of hair, dressing beautifuIIy for the husband entireIy etc and whiIst your at it appIy it to the brother aIso - he cant oiI his beard, trim his beard according the shariah, cut his hair, appIy condition to his skin etc etc.
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#29 [Permalink] Posted on 17th March 2007 00:16
Topic's been changed?

It's not about Mehndi, it's about the traditional Mehndi parties before weddings.. Don't get me wrong, that's what i was refering to.

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#30 [Permalink] Posted on 17th March 2007 01:06
agreed. so if a few/some sisters got together to prepare the bride without no force/pressure, big pomp show or who-ha and aII saIaats are prayed as per normaI and no shar'ee ruIes are broken there's no harm in it.


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nevertheless, personally have the above clarified, just to be on the safe side.


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