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#61 [Permalink] Posted on 9th May 2023 12:30
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You yourself have said that Dawah cannot be given to Non-Muslims using the TJ platform! Yet you insist, using fatawa of the Ulama (as below) and prove that the virtues of Tabligh are equal to that of Qital.

Actions are according to intentions and each man shall have what he intended!

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Yes I have read and shared in the past confirming what you are trying to portray. But I have my reservations.
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#62 [Permalink] Posted on 9th May 2023 12:39
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Jazakallahu khair for this information

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Personally, I still take it as they are exclusive for jihad, however that doesn't rule out their use for tabligh as mentioned by the great ulama.

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5. Why do Tableeghees use Ayaat of the Qur'aan & Ahadeeth which refer to Jihad for encoraging people to go in Tableegh?

Is it permissible to go out in jamaat and label it as "fesabillilah" (since some people say this word can only be associated with going for war)? What is the evidence for using Jihad verse for this work?

Allah Taala states in the Quraan: And struggle for the sake of Allah as it is required. Anas reported that the Messenger of Allah said: Whoso goes out in search of knowledge, he is in the path of Allah till he returns. (Tirmizi)

In view of the above, it is permissible to go out in Jamaat as this is also fee-sabeelillah and this has been emphasised in the Quran. Fee sabeelillah includes all kinds of efforts and struggle, e.g. tongue, pen, money, body, etc. [Kanzul Ummaal vol.10 pg.15]

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#63 [Permalink] Posted on 9th May 2023 12:40
Abu Mas’ud reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Whoever guides someone to goodness will have a reward like one who did it.”

Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 1893

Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Muslim

عَنْ أَبِي مَسْعُودٍ الْأَنْصَارِيِّ عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ مَنْ دَلَّ عَلَى خَيْرٍ فَلَهُ مِثْلُ أَجْرِ فَاعِلِهِ

1893 صحيح مسلم كتاب الإمارة باب فضل إعانة الغازي في سبيل الله بمركوب وغيره وخلافته في أهله بخير

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#64 [Permalink] Posted on 9th May 2023 12:42
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From the same fatwa:
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Would it be true/safe/wise to say that certain TJ's have removed the use of "unbelievers" in this verse and other similar veres and would it be fair to say that the proof is that they say the platform of TJ's cannot be used for non-Muslims?

This would not be fair as it would be kufr. Hence why I said, they are different in their respective levels.
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#65 [Permalink] Posted on 9th May 2023 12:45
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So I presume if you are guiding someone towards Salah you will get reward equivalent to it.

If you encourage someone on the brink of suicide and guide them and get them involved in TJ . you will get a reward equivalent to saving their life and so on and so forth and ALLAH knows best.
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#66 [Permalink] Posted on 9th May 2023 12:46
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In which book did the TJs have removed a part of Ayah.
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#67 [Permalink] Posted on 9th May 2023 12:56
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I'm not saying TJ's have removed any part of any verse. I am saying, certain TJ's.....
Can TJ's give Dawah to Unbelievers?

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You are free to give dawah to non-muslims. But not from TJ platform.


And we go round in circles, day in day out!
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#68 [Permalink] Posted on 9th May 2023 13:03
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TJs quote the following ayahs:
Surah Yunus: verse 25
Surah Juma'h verse 2
Surah al furqan 51,52
Surah Al-dhariyath 55
Surah Mudathir 1-3
Surah Al-shuara 3
Surah At-taubah 128
Surah al-Faathir 8
Suran Noah 1-20
Surah A-Shoaraa 23-28
Surah Taaha 49-54
Surah Ibrahim 5
Surah Al-Aaraaf 28
Surah Momin 38-45
Surah Luqman 17
Surah Al-Aaraaf 164-166
Surah Hoodh 116-117
Surah Al-asr
Surah Al-Imran 180
Surah Yusuf 108
Surah Taubah 71
Suraah maa'idah 2
Surah Al-Tahreem 6
Surah Haj 41,28
Surah Nahl 125
Surah Al-Ahzaab 46
Surah Al-Imran 140

I didn't find any tahreef here in those ayah quoted above.
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#69 [Permalink] Posted on 9th May 2023 13:06
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The same thing applies from other platform.

One cannot do tashkeel for four months from
1. taleem
2. tasawwuf
3. qitaal platforms.

I have never heard DZN doing tashkeel of 4 months for the new reverts. "Go and learn practical deen". And for old muslims "get reformed in tableeg, spend 4 months"
TJ never complain.
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#70 [Permalink] Posted on 9th May 2023 14:08
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Our maulana used to explain this to the audience in a simple way

Middle of the talk, He used to say "all of you recite with me, Subhanallah, Alhamdulillah, Allahu akbar"

Then he explains "Each one of you got 30 nekees for this. But I got 30 multiplied by the number of brothers sitting here. This is because, I was the motivator for your recitation"
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#71 [Permalink] Posted on 9th May 2023 19:11
This feels very relevant to what is being discussed here:

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Like I gave an analogy some time back of a house being on fire and neighbors catching the attention of the real firefighters by yelling "fire fire". That's your TJ. Now if anyone asks for the rewards of it, we refer you to Allah with Whom the real rewards lie.
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#72 [Permalink] Posted on 10th May 2023 09:19
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I feel your a typical fan of Moulana Saad sb , your trying in different angles to establish Moulana saad sb Views and his Claim for Imaarath is correct.

May ALLAH give all of us Hidayath and May ALLAH be happy with our life till our last breadth and May ALLAH keep us always in the path of Pious Rigthly Guided Mumin . Ameen.
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#73 [Permalink] Posted on 10th May 2023 11:47
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What do a Tablighi get in return for his qurbani in the path of Allah?

Cash: He gets islah/hidayah/reformation

How:

Hakeemul Ummat RA says:

  • I feel that, it is necessary to bring some Ma'roof in my life, I invite other muslims towards this ma'roof, I get that Ma'roof in my own life.
  • When I feel, I have to get rid of some Munkar from my life, I stop other muslims that munkar, in return that munkar gets removed from my life.


This is also proven from ahadeeth.
This golden formula reforms sathees who joins TJ (of course, if the sathee is in TJ for his own islah with ikhlaas and istekhlaas). Every TJ sathee has experienced this......

To be continued.....
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#74 [Permalink] Posted on 10th May 2023 11:48
@akbar703 is just playing devil's advocate.
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#75 [Permalink] Posted on 10th May 2023 12:05
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May Allah give hidayah to @Akbar703. Aameen
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