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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 6th February 2024 16:04
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This malaise was not confined to India either we had a Member of Parliament Jack Straw a former British Foreign Secretary, who presided over the war in Iraq and was by and large Pro-Israel. He kept getting elected by the Muslim community in the town of BlackBurn. He was the first politician to call for the removal of Niqab.
www.muftisays.com/forums/14-peoples-say/2258-straw-asks-m...

Which resulted in Muslim women who wore Niqaabs being targeted. I was completely baffled why did the Muslims keep voting for this guy. And then I discovered Muslim community in his town mainly Indian Gujarati, and they voted for him because he was seen as pro-Indian. And there was this mindset as well that we the Indian Muslims are the well behaved Muslims and the bad Muslims are the Pakistanis and also the Bengalis to a lesser extent. Which generally speaking is true. Both the Pakistani and Bengali youth are involved in crimes and gangs.

But what they completely missed is the British establishment Media, or Politics don't not care whether you are Muslim from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Somali, Iraq, Yemen or whatever.
They hate Islam unconditionally.

A good thing is a generation later Muslims are more aware of this fact.
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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 6th February 2024 16:07
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Well Muslims in India, should be proud of their Islamic history and heritage and defend it. There is no need to bring Pakistan into the conversation when it is not even needed.
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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 6th February 2024 16:08
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Since beginning Indian muslims never voted for BJP.

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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 6th February 2024 16:11
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You missed the point of my post.
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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 6th February 2024 16:12
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It is the media which tricks and puts anti-Pakistan words in Indian muslim leaders. Some times they are invited by secular establishments and request them to speak on India-pakistan relations. Here they can't take a pro-pakistani stance. They handle the situation diplomatically.
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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 6th February 2024 16:16
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It could have been a crime, if british Indian muslims voted for a politician to help him in anti-pakistani activities. He was helping Indian muslims... done.
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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 6th February 2024 16:22
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You have again misunderstood.
So let me clarify for you if there is a British politician or media who hates Islam, it does not matter if you tell that politician. The problem is Salaafi Muslims and I am Sufi, they are bad and we are good or if you tell them I am Indian and the Problem is Pakistani. That will not resolve his hatred because he hates Islam he does not care what national origins of that muslim are or what Islamic sect maslik they belong to

This way of thinking in the long-term is counter productive. The issue is his hatred and ignorance of slam then you need to educate him on Islam and Islamic teachings, to dispel his ignorance.
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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 6th February 2024 16:34
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If the politician hated Islam, he was pro-Israel, he was against Hijaab and even then Indian muslims voted for him then they come under the category of "they sold deen to go gain duniya"
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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 6th February 2024 16:41
Or to put it to you more simply Muslims of India did not do Dawah as they should to the non_muslims and sometimes for selfish reasons.

The South African Dai Shaykh Ahmed Deedat mentioned a story of his trip to India. He said he invited to some place in India to do a talk, the wealthy and powerful community were the Muslims who were the land owners. And the poor and indigent in that community were the Hindu's the Hindu's made a living by working for the Muslims.

He asked his hosts to gather the local Hindu's, and he gave Dawah to them and in his Bayaan he invited them to Islam. Majority of the Hindu's were receptive. So asked his hosts to work in these people and keep inviting them to Islam. Their response was if they become Muslims ("Humare like Kaam Kaun Karega") who will work for us. They did not want the Hindu's to become Muslims because they were exploiting them and feared if they embraced Islam they would have to treat them equally and pay them what they are worth.
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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 6th February 2024 16:46
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He was pro-India and he believed in having strong political and economic ties with India and he helped getting planning permission and funding for the local Indian community in various things. In essence he served his local community.
And generally his hatred for Islam was subtle not overt... Saying things like we need a more Europeanised Islam.
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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 6th February 2024 16:48
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The owners were wrong when they thought, when the laborers revert then who will do their jobs.

There are multiple reasons for Indian muslim masses not giving dawah to non-muslims.

And groups who gave dawah to non-muslims achieved sample results only.

Muslims who were busy in reformation of muslims followed "Concentrate on one job at a time" formula, but they didn't stop any other group from offering dawah to non-muslims.
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#27 [Permalink] Posted on 6th February 2024 16:51
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If this was before 2014, then there is nothing wrong there. Today if someone supports Indian government for their anti-minorities activities, he must not get muslim votes.
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#28 [Permalink] Posted on 6th February 2024 17:05
In conclusion the Muslims in India do not have a voice and nobody in the media and politics cares about their issues.
It's hard to see a solution.

Only foreigners who speak up for them are the Pakistanis, but Pakistanis by doing this cause more problem for the Indians. The Media and Politicians then accuse Indian Muslims of being Pakistani supporters and agents.

The only people with leverage with the Indian government who could help are the Arab Gulf States by putting pressure on Indian government. But they don't care and summarily dismiss the situation of Indian Muslims as an internal Indian matter and are only interested in trade with Modi government. Well in any case when the Gulf Arab countries do not care for Palestinians it would be foolish to expect them to care for Indian Muslims.

The future for Indian Muslims looks fraught with difficulty, the Hindutva are working towards a genocide

May ALLAH have mercy on them and protect them ameen.
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#29 [Permalink] Posted on 6th February 2024 17:09
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Aameen


We have fought the mighty British empire, the only super power of that time. Insha Allah we shall do it again.

They are mistaken if they think, Russian muslims, chinese muslims, bosnian muslims or phalestenian muslims model shall work here, Insha Allah.
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#30 [Permalink] Posted on 6th February 2024 19:02
India judiciary was the last bastion for Muslim but even that has started delivering judgments based on faith rather than evidence and law.
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