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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 18th January 2023 16:50
Before replying to this question.

If I ask our friend daees who invite non-muslims, "why you won't participate with Tableeghi jamaat for reformation of Ummah, spend 40 days every year with Tableeghi Jamaat"

Their reply will be :

"we are busy with inviting non-Muslims, we have limited resources and that are insufficient, so we can't spare time and effort with Tableeghi jamaath".

The same way tableeghis have a similar reply:

"we are busy with inviting Muslims, we have limited resources that are insufficient, so we can't spare time and effort with other group who invite non-Muslims".

Both have valid reason.


So both can be busy with they are doing.
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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 18th January 2023 17:38
Bismillah.

Or perhaps there are people in TJ who do both. TJ does not forbid those who have the ability to do so.

Colonel Amerrudin an Amir of America had hundreds of Shahadahs.

And here is the Libyan
Shaykh Mohammed Jihani, amazing Karguzari.
youtu.be/6Jqjg9LrJhQ
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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 18th January 2023 17:41
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If you are col Ameeruddin sahib RA..... surely you can.

Every year, He used to spend continuous 6 months in jamaath. He was 100% busy with effort of tableeghi jamaath.

And what about our friends in other dawah effort, why can't they spend 40 days in jamaath?
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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 18th January 2023 19:12
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Why do they need to spend 40 days in jamaat if they are already involved Dawah???

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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 19th January 2023 01:15
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They got the reply..
When one is involved in dawah activities.... Then stick to that...

All are not super humans.
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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 19th January 2023 01:43
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Why am I getting the reply??. I never
asked as to why TJ dont preach to non-muslims. Should you not be giving a response to the person asked that question???

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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 19th January 2023 02:09
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Sorry!!!!
Corrected...

They got the reply..

When one is involved in dawah activities.... Then stick to that...
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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 19th January 2023 12:38
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Why Tablighi Jamaat don't invite non-muslims?

I was specifically told that a certain number of things become wajib upon us if they embrace Islam (I think it was 6 things) and for this reason, they do not preach to non Muslims as they cannot fulfil these acts!

  • Don't give dawah to non Muslims
  • Don't preach to Imam's, Alim's....
  • Tell those who are defending their lands from occupation to stop fighting and join the jamaat


Only a handful of people didn't listen to this, whilst the majority still have this attitude with the lamest of excuses.

Then comes along the evidence of 40 days of Musa عليه السلام

Then the evidence of Nuh عليه السلام of spending a lifetime of giving dawah to his family members and not being so successful

Selecting evidence from other Prophetic era's and continue to live in Makkan era forever just so that they don't have to be on the defensive or offensive side, preaching only to close ones who have faith.


I really don't want to get into debate with TJ'ism

Been there, done that.

TJ'ism isn't the same today as what it was meant to be when setup.
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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 19th January 2023 13:39
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I was specifically told that a certain number of things become wajib upon us if they embrace Islam (I think it was 6 things) and for this reason, they do not preach to non Muslims as they cannot fulfil these acts!

Don't give dawah to non Muslims


I was told that "when someone embraces Islam, we muslims have these responsibilities". Quote ends:

A person can't do two things at the same time. Someone is busy with dawah and even after 70 years only 5% is achieved, 95% percent is yet to be achieved. This requires a lot of time and effort,full focus and concentration.

But TJ sathees are advised to respect and support brothers who invite non-Muslims.

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Don't preach to Imam's, Alim's....


Simple.... they don't have ilm to do that. An Aalim will do that.

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Tell those who are defending their lands from occupation to stop fighting and join the jamaat


Never heard that in my life.

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Only a handful of people didn't listen to this, whilst the majority still have this attitude with the lamest of excuses.


That helps them. Hopping everywhere never benefits them.

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Then comes along the evidence of 40 days of Musa عليه السلام


40 days is the limit, what travelers witness, they must intent not to leave the visiting place until they change lives of locals. That is what Sahabah RA did.

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Then the evidence of Nuh عليه السلام of spending a lifetime of giving dawah to his family members and not being so successful


Not clear, what is the message. Do you mean tableeghees never care about their family members. You are wrong. May be you have focused your microscope at a particular incident.

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Selecting evidence from other Prophetic era's and continue to live in Makkan era forever just so that they don't have to be on the defensive or offensive side,


I didn't hear any place where Tableeghees live in Hazrat Uthman RA era. Today in makkah and madeenah, Tableeghees live in Makkan era.

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preaching only to close ones who have faith.


All muslims are our brothers, they are close to us. We Indians care about Muslim brothers living in Cuba and Venezuela. Millions of muslims migrate in these type of countries, go untraceable. We care about muslim brothers living in huts in cities, we care about muslim brothers living in villages. We care about muslims living in isolated places in cities.

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I really don't want to get into debate with TJ'ism


You are welcome to criticize , healthy criticism is welcome. But listen to other side with unbiased independent thinking.

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Been there, done that.


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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 19th January 2023 13:47
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Why do you expect less than 1% of Muslim population to do multiple tasks, invite both muslims and non muslims, work for supremacy of Islam etc etc.

You have 99% muslim population and they are yours. Recruit and prepare them for whatever activities you want.
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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 19th January 2023 14:23
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But TJ sathees are advised to respect and support brothers who invite non-Muslims.

Advised to respect and support. But not give dawah to non Muslims. In fact, I've been discouraged by very well known brothers in our area, ameers.
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40 days is the limit

What happened to 4 months?

When women are left in their homes without a husband to terms to their martial rights, when women find alternative methods of fulfilling their desires and have affairs.

I once asked a brother if he was married and if so, why he left his wife alone for months and then decided to extend his stay. His response, "I'm strong brother" lol. And the rights of his wife?

Anyways....
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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 19th January 2023 14:23
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All muslims are our brothers, they are close to us. We Indians care about Muslim brothers living in Cuba and Venezuela. Millions of muslims migrate in these type of countries, go untraceable. We care about muslim brothers living in huts in cities, we care about muslim brothers living in villages. We care about muslims living in isolated places in cities.

With the exception of Pakistan lol
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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 19th January 2023 14:35
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Advised to respect and support. But not give dawah to non Muslims. In fact, I've been discouraged by very well known brothers in our area, ameers.


Why do you need permission from well known brothers. Why do you ask for permission. You are free to give dawah to non-muslims. But not from TJ platform.

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40 days is the limit

What happened to 4 months?


Yes, 4 months is the limit. But 4 months is not sufficient to change a small village from many places they visit.

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When women are left in their homes without a husband to terms to their martial rights, when women find alternative methods of fulfilling their desires and have affairs.


You have focused your microscope on a single incident.

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I once asked a brother if he was married and if so, why he left his wife alone for months and then decided to extend his stay. His response, "I'm strong brother" lol. And the rights of his wife?


You are asking a TJ brother to focus on his family. Thank you.... What about brothers who leave homes for supremacy of Islam and never return. Don't know whether they are alive or not. Can't get married for decades.

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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 19th January 2023 14:45
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But not from TJ platform.

Precisely my point. Become a Daee but don't preach to non Muslims lol.

Note: no comment on Pakistani Muslim's yet.
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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 19th January 2023 15:07
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Precisely my point. Become a Daee but don't preach to non Muslims lol.


Become a Daee but don't spent four months in tableeg. Is that request valid

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Note: no comment on Pakistani Muslim's yet.


I don't know anything about pakistani Muslims. So no comments.
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