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#31 [Permalink] Posted on 5th January 2023 11:39

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Bro, i listened the karguzari directly from the brother who was affected the most. Don't fool me like innocents you do.

Don't start some stories of what you hear here and there... thus shows that you people are spreading false.

Salam.

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#32 [Permalink] Posted on 5th January 2023 12:07

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brother a simple questioned is yet to be answered:

After 2014, in which mashwarah, the decision taken by global akabir in 1995 was reversed.

Which mashwarah majlis Maulana Saad sahib was elevated from 1 in 5 faisal to ameer. I would like to get details about this.

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#33 [Permalink] Posted on 5th January 2023 16:14

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Quit playing the victim card again and again, quit deviating from the questions. You didn't reply to jack, you didn't to reply a single accusation of mine in the previous posts, nor are you replying to the other brs accusations. QUIT BEATING AROUND THE BUSH. Majority of the world and senior elders support the shura, including Moulana Saad sbs own Ustaads ( Moulana Ebrahim Dewla sb etc), and also why do you keep bringing up the Malaysia jor? LOL

Are you allright?
Check out the statistics for the Raiwand Ijtema that just took place, that'll sort you out.

I mean God!!! It's like talking to a 3 year old!!!

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#34 [Permalink] Posted on 5th January 2023 19:07

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Assalamu aleikum brother. Please don't reply anymore. This is not going anywhere.

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#35 [Permalink] Posted on 5th January 2023 19:29

Ever since I started started writing these discussions I missed my tasbeehaat and home talim. This is it! How much more will I lose. This weekend we have our national mashura. That's it. Assalamu aleikum!

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#36 [Permalink] Posted on 5th January 2023 19:50

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No need to worry bud, he won't be replying, he never replied to a single accusation in any of the previous discussions, he kept dancing around the questions, why on earth would you expect him to reply now?

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#37 [Permalink] Posted on 5th January 2023 23:12

Bismillah.

Abdullah ibn Mas‘ood (may Allah be pleased with him): “Whoever wants to follow a path, let him follow the path of one who has died, for the living are not safe from fitnah. I mean the Companions of Muhammad (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him). They were the best of this ummah: the purest in heart, the deepest in knowledge and the most straightforward. Allah chose them to accompany His Prophet and establish His religion, so recognise their status and follow in their footsteps and adhere as much as you can to their example of conduct and attitude, for they followed true guidance.”

(This report was narrated by Ibn ‘Abd al-Barr in Jaami‘ Bayaan al-‘Ilm wa Fadluhu, 2/947, no. 1810

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#38 [Permalink] Posted on 5th January 2023 23:22

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Bismillah.

Going by the above post and in relation to the Tabligh Jamaat . Would it not be wiser to follow the example and advices of Maulana Mohammed Ilyas (Rahimullah).

Why follow the living who may fall into error, when the originator of this Jamaat by the grace of ALLAH was known for his Taqwa and piety, it is also known he
did not like fame or praise but purely wanted this Jamaat to be a source of guidance for muslims towards the worship of ALLAH and did not want to guide people towards himself or to Lionise him???

And ALLAH knows best.

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#39 [Permalink] Posted on 5th January 2023 23:35

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Brother,
Bangladesh tie up with political party.
Raiwind most of them don't know the reality.
Don't bring statistics here bro. There is nothing you can compare with nizamuddin.

Work is about itaad, that's what they first teach you. Most of the muftis have replied on the fatwas. There is nothing on the shura side except accusing the other group, brainwashing, conversion, etc.

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#40 [Permalink] Posted on 5th January 2023 23:44

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Wa alaikum Salam bro, yes insha Allah. Will stop

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#41 [Permalink] Posted on 6th January 2023 01:22

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You are supporting a tyrant and his zaalim gang.

After 2014, in which mashwarah, the decision taken by global akabir in 1995 was reversed.

Which mashwarah majlis Maulana Saad sahib was elevated from 1 in 5 faisal to ameer. I would like to get details about this.

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#42 [Permalink] Posted on 6th January 2023 02:34

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Bismillah.

Just curious as what you are hoping to accomplish with all these threads.

Seems to be a pointless and purposeless exercise, those who support Maulana Saad will continue to support him. And those who oppose him will continue to oppose him. There is Zero chance of reconciliation between the two sides.

Looks like the Tablighis in India will spend there energy fighting each other whilst the Hindutva thugs unite. In attempts at eliminating and wiping out muslims altogether.

Indian muslims are heading down the path of the Muslims of Andalus and Islamic Spain as a whole.

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Just curious as what you are hoping to accomplish with all these threads.

We are working towards reconciliation

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Seems to be a pointless and purposeless exercise, those who support Maulana Saad will continue to support him. And those who oppose him will continue to oppose him. There is Zero chance of reconciliation between the two sides.

Maulana saad supporters think he is shahzadah, prince of mol Ilyas sahib RA khaandaan, he can't err, the elders have erred. We would like to show the supporters the mistakes of maulana Saad sahib. That can bring them towards reconciliation.

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Looks like the Tablighis in India will spend there energy fighting each other whilst the Hindutva thugs unite. In attempts at eliminating and wiping out muslims altogether.

We are not fighting on streets, we have not created debate platforms. We won't abuse each other. We are busy with our effort. Our jamaaths continue to visit local and foreign lands.

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Indian muslims are heading down the path of the Muslims of Andalus and Islamic Spain as a whole.

Insha Allah we shall not allow Andalus to repeat in India. There is difference between phalestine, russia, china AND India. Things will change in India. We expect our neighbors not to add fuel to fire, their actions directly helps the rulers in India.

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#44 [Permalink] Posted on 6th January 2023 14:22

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Bismillah.

I am sorry to say this all sounds delusional. The true loyalists of Maulana Saad will not change their positions no matter what evidence you show them. That is what is called the cult of celebrity, there have been religious figures accused of far worse things and still maintain a strong following people refuse to believe anything that is exposed about them .

Maulana Saad will not give up his leadership at any cost. So essentially your efforts will bear zero fruit.

As for the rest whilst the muslims of India have been sleeping the Sanghis have been working day and night. To gather support from east to west in their endeavours against Islam. Bollywood is directly aligned with them and Bollywood movies and Bollywood Stars are household names across the muslim world. Everywhere from Morocco to Somalia and even occupied Palestine. And people in these countries will refuse to listen to a bad word against Hindus.

The BJP supporters and Hindutva have gained positions of political influence and power in the media of various countries. From the U.A.E. to United States, United Kingdom and various other parts of the world.

They have established a very organised network of anti-Islam propoganda world wide. Recently research carried out in Australia found the overwhelming and majority of Anti-Islam propaganda globally via Social Media is originating in India. With millions of posts against Islam and muslims being posted from there.

They have formed alliances with Anti-muslim political parties and organisations around the world. And work in tandem with them in propagating against Islam. If anywhere in the world there is some campaign against Islam you will find Hindutva supporters en-masse supporting it via their social media channels. Whether its campaign to ban Hijab in various European countries or draw cartoons insulting the Prophet.

We had a situation in a very remote place in America a few years ago were muslims wanted to build a masjid and applied for permission. Some locals objected a petition was set up to ask the local people for their views. Although it was meant only for locals and their were hardly any hindus in the locality. The Hindutva from around the world were signing the petition. Thats how deep their hatred is, they spend day and night searching for news stories and opposition to Islam in places no one has heard off. Just so they can support it.

Furthermore when the founding father and Guru of Hindutva ideology M.S. Gowalkar wrote his book "We, Our Nation Hood Defined" Calling for genocide and purge of muslims from the Hindu Lands. It was 1939.

Pakistan did not even exist at that time, so their hatred for you has nothing to do with what your neighbour does or does not do. It is based purely on their hatred of Islam.

If the Muslims in India think by chanting patriotic slogans and pledging loyalty to India over and over again is going to save them. Then they are even more deluded.
Even western experts are stating the seeds of a genocide have already been layed. That is the conditions the demonisation the villification of a group of people before genocide is committed against them is following the path and pattern in India.

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#45 [Permalink] Posted on 6th January 2023 16:36

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Thank you for sharing your analysis and your personal views.

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