Damage done by maulana Saad sahib

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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 2nd January 2023 16:18

Last saturday after Magrib I heard this in bayan delivered by a tableeghi saathee.

"Hazrat Yunus عليه السلام warned people of Allah’s punishment, but he himself got punished"

And we continue to hear similar words
"If Hidayath was in hands of Allah SWT, then what is the purpose of sending ambiyah عليه السلام"
"you continue with effort of dawah, it is possible that Allah will take service from you what He did not take from the prophets"

And many more.... When will this end?

Can supporters of Maulana Saad sahib explain!!!

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 2nd January 2023 21:56

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Bro,
You already termed nizamuddin saathis as deviant and formed your own group of global aalami shura organizations to do the real tabligh.
Why does something that you termed as deviant still bothering you?
Are you people not having any takazas or work after leaving nizamuddin?
You people already said bangle Wali markaz is now dargah and we are mureeds.. are you commenting on the barelve activities like this ??

Change the purpose bro, go back to nizamuddin else you'll waste your whole life like this.. it's evident to the public as well nowadays on who is doing real work.

For the topic - You can always stop the brother with you hand , tounge or heart as per hadith. Not in forums where he is not there...

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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 2nd January 2023 22:40

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What is your opinion on what these tablighi sathees have learnt from maulana Saad sahib DB.
My feeling is, they have learnt wrong.
We can't stop this.
So this message must reach bangla wale masjid. We have a forum where we can speak to nizamuddin saathees.

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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 2nd January 2023 23:17

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Bismillah.

People from Morocco to Indonesia and many other places will continue with the work as they have always done. Majority of them have never heard of Maulana Saad and will never know about him.

Here in the U.K. very few knew who Maulana Saad was.. Only personalities they knew of were Hafiz Patel the Amir of Europe and Maulana Tariq Jameel who is perhaps the most well know speaker.

I doubt there are many people connected to Nizamuddin on this forum.

The Arrows have left their bow, it is too late to reverse things.

We now have 2 Tabligh Jamaats and might have further splinter groups in the future and the work losing its barakah...

Many movements have formed over the centuries they have a beginning a peak and then a downward trajectory. Some seizing to exist altogether.

And ALLAH knows best..!

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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd January 2023 01:34

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Alhamdulillah there are mukhlis saathees in tableeg, tableeg is alive AND was alive due to these mukhlis saathees. The barakah and the results of tableeg continue to exist. The relative higher results due to increase in number of sathees could be less. But the constant results do exist.

I repeat again "there is no alternative to tableeg now"

Also, I recall Maulana Manzoor Nomani RA here.

"Is darul uloom is the same as that of hazrat nanotavi or maulana yaqoob's period?
Is Mazahirul uloom saharanpur same as that of maulana Ahmed Ali RA and maulana Mohammed Mazhar sahib's period?
Is present Mamiatul ulma is the same that of Shaikhul hind and maulana Kifayatulllah period.
Are our khanqah the same as that of hazrath Gangohi RA's period.
Can we declare that these movements and institutions have lost their purpose.
As time progresses, there shall be dilution. We have to live with it. Hadeeth indicates the same. The barakah mankind witnessed during Rasulullah SAS and Khulafah, can't be expected now. We have to live what we have. We can't declare that today Islam is now all delusion and misguidance. (Barakah of Islam do exists)
Mishkat quotes a hadeeth from bukhari summarised "hazrath Zubair bin Addi RA narrates we were in company of Anas bin Malik RA, we complained about the atrocities of Hajjaj bin yusuf, he advised us to do sabr, and said that tomorrow things will be worse than today. This is what we heard from the prophet SAS."

End of quote from Maulana manzoor Nomani RA

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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 4th January 2023 08:19

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Masha Allah may Allah subhanahu watala reward you for this reply. Couldnt be said any better. I was in Dewsbury from Denmark last week and I am telling you the 'deviant' brothers are doing the real work. May Allah protect the places our mashaikh has shed tears for this ummah and their progenies. Ameen

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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 4th January 2023 08:26

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I am not denying that Maulana saad sahib supporters are engaged with the effort of tableeg.

But this is not explained:

Last saturday after Magrib I heard this in bayan delivered by a tableeghi saathee.

"Hazrat Yunus عليه السلام warned people of Allah’s punishment, but he himself got punished"

And we continue to hear similar words in tablighi bayans:

"If Hidayath was in hands of Allah SWT, then what is the purpose of sending ambiyah عليه السلام"

"you continue with effort of dawah, it is possible that Allah will take service from you what He did not take from the prophets" Explaining this our sathees say "you may deliver better than anbiya, many anbiya will not have a single follower"..... Is this right?

And many more.... When will this end?

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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 4th January 2023 08:32

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What does that have to do with Maulana Saad. Any lunitic can speak.

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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 4th January 2023 09:01

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These sathees are not quoting any lunatic. They are quoting maulana Saad sahib db

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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 4th January 2023 09:17

I don't wish to get involved in this topic, but would like to ask questions here and there for an understanding.

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Last saturday after Magrib I heard this in bayan delivered by a tableeghi saathee.

Was this "saathee" an Alim? or was he just a regular brother who was selected by the Jamaat to give a short talk?

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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 4th January 2023 09:48

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Bayans are by Ordinary sathees.
We are muqallids, we speak what we hear from an Aalim.

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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 4th January 2023 10:03

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Bayans are by Ordinary sathees

"Bayan!"

This was one of the reasons I left the tablighi jamaat. When I first went for 3 days, I was appointed to give the talk in a Masjid, in Ramadhan in front of more than regular number of people. I'm not qualified to give talks in front of an audience. Yet there I was, appointed to give the talk. What did I speak about? I just repeated what I heard in another lecture and mixed it up with my own understanding, translated back into English.

Then, again, on my second jamaat, I went for 40 days and yet again, I was asked to give the talk. Fortunately, I was only there for about a week and then had to leave for other reasons.

Pride was creeping in. Pondered over what I was doing and how easily we can mislead the public. Went on to actually study knowledge instead of giving bayans and learnt that much of what i learnt from the "sathees" was not even Sunnah but acts and actions of others. Was never able to reference back many of the actions back to authentic Hadith. Had to erase what I had learnt and actually started to learn what was Sunnah and was actions of the elders. (not saying that these actions are bad)

Bayans/talks/lectures should be limited to qualified scholars only. Do your tabligh, but don't ask laypeople to give talks!

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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 4th January 2023 10:04

Subhanallah. Are you still on this confusion after seven years? You're only damaging tableegh bur harming islam and humanity.

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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 4th January 2023 10:30

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Is this reply directed towards me.

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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 4th January 2023 14:15

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You and those thinking like you. If you people had amal you wouldn't be busy looking at these things

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