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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 11th December 2022 10:19
Assalamualaykum,

I have officially compiled the full history of Tablighi Jamaat in a chronological manner.
Too long to paste it here.

Website here
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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 12th December 2022 10:05
Well written mashallah.

The pre 2014 section is predominantly historical fact, with little opinion included, while the post 2014 section is predominantly opinion because of the underlying partisan tone.

However, the article is comprehensive indeed, and as such, appreciated.

Jazakallah.
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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 12th December 2022 11:21
The article turned from history of tabligh to badmouthing Maulana Saad real quick.
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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 12th December 2022 11:35
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What objections do you have.
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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 12th December 2022 11:56
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Brothers who may oppose this OP's opinion, I have two questions for them:

1. In which mashwarah Maulana Saad sahib was elevated as Ameer of Tableegh. He was never an Ameer before Maualana Zubair Sahib passed away in March 2014.
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2.. After Hazrat Ji Maulana Inamul Hassan passed away in 1995. Elders who were qualified to lead Tabligh Jamaat were in that order: (based on their pure qualification as per sunnah or shariah)
(i) Maulana Saeed Khan sab RA
(ii) Maulana zainul aabideen RA
(iii) Hajee Abdul wahab sahib RA.
(iv) Maulana Umar sahib Palanpuri RA

We don't know the reasons for why they were ignored. Elders know it better.

3. Many quote the writing of Shah waliullah muhaddis dehalvi RA, they say there are 4 criteria or usool of appointing an Ameer. Maulana Saad sab fails in all the criteria.

Also they argue that faisal system is against shariah. If that is the case, read my 2nd para, as per shariah those 4 elders were eligible for Amaarath in 1995, maulana saad sahib never qualified. And from 1995 to 2014 when faisal system benefited Maulana Saad sab, he quietly followed it. Suddenly in 2014 they woke up to read the shariah.

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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 12th December 2022 12:33
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Firstly, as brother abuzayd mentioned, post 2014 the article goes into partisan tone towards Maulana Saad.

Secondly, there is other side of the coin.

There are hundered of videos on youtube supporting argument of both sides and what you are saying or whats mentioned in the article is merely a summary of the videos from one side.
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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 12th December 2022 12:46
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1. My compilation is based on official version of shura elders who gave clarifications in open gatherings.
2. There is no official version from Nizamuddin on happenings from 1994 to till now.
3. All the videos or literature presented by Maulana Saad sahib's supporters is based on interpretation. Some sitting in England or Africa, their visits to Nizamuddin could be for a few hours for the period 1994 to 2015. We have received clarifications from elders who were present in Nizamuddin from 1994 to 2015.

4. If you have viewed all the videos can you please clarify:

(i) Who was better qualified to be Ameer of Tablighi jamaath in 1995. I strongly argue, Mol Saad sahib was no where near to be qualified. Please Avoid ghuloo, reply purely based on seerah and shariah.
(ii) In which mashwarah majlis did Mol Saad sahib got elevated as Ameer in 2014.
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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 12th December 2022 13:09
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I saw information. No bad mouthing.
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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 13th December 2022 06:55
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SA brother, do you know/have any info on:
1. Maulana Sulaiman Jhanjhee
2. Maulana Ubaidullah Balyavi

JazakhAllah Khair
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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 13th December 2022 13:58
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Most of the compilation which are critical of Maulana Sad, I sourced it from the letters of Maulana Yaqoob, Maulana Ibrahim, Choudhry Amantullah, Prof Khalid Siddiqui. They have been in Nizamuddin for more than 40 years.

It's outrageous to say all the elders are lying and Maulana Saad alone is right.

I was supporting Maulana Saad from 2015 to 2018, but day-by-day things became more clear. It is crystal clear now.
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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 13th December 2022 14:07
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Yes, I agree. In fact between 2015 to 2018, I was a supporter of Maulana Saad. Why? Cause I was fed a lot of explanations that made me believe he was oppressed and he was the only savior of the Ummah.

Alhamdulillah, after doing my own research I came to the conclusion that a lot of the explanations were based on distortions, half-truths, and conspiracy theories.

Bi-iznillah, I wrote this website, which is a compilation of my months of research.
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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 13th December 2022 14:09
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Jazakallahu khair for all efforts.
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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd December 2022 16:05
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There is an error one reader pointed to me.

Year 2000 Mufti Zain Abidin passed away

Year 2004 Mufti Zain Abidin passed away

fyi

JazakhAllah Khair for the website. I am sure this took large amount of time. Allah reward you for your efforts & make it means to remove confusion
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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 24th December 2022 01:49
The root cause of fitnah was inclusion of maulana saad in the shura in 1995 which was based on lineage and not qualification.

The ummah had the glorious example of hazrat Umar radh. who did not appoint his son Hazrat Abdullah ibn Umar rah. to the post of khilafat even though hazrat Abdullah ibn Umar was amongst the most qualified for the post.

There are examples in the lives of sahabas and in near history of our akabareens most notably Maulana Gangohi rah. who had that unwavering strength of iman and faith in Allah ta ala to never favor an unqualified person to any post.

It will not be far fetched to say that this betrayal of trust by the tablighi elders in appointing a person based only on lineage and not merit derailed the ikhlas on which this work was based on.

Presently,no matter how much you blame Maulana saad, he is simply the consequence that the jamat is facing because of that enormous betrayal of trust in 1995.
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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 24th December 2022 02:01
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His inclusion was through arm twisting. Using force, threats.
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