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#31 [Permalink] Posted on 26th August 2022 00:16
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Yes, also to note if the 3 elders were the 3 Amirs of the world, how is it that during the Annual Shura Meeting in Raiwind, sometimes Bhai Wahab is the faisala?

The fact is clear, the 3 Shura is for Nizamuddin/India, not for the world!

Though to understand the Saadiya's group point of view, one must entertain a lot of implicity. I will put them here:
- The 3 Shura/Amirs of India (who control Nizamuddin) is implicitly the Amir of the world despite what was decided in the 1995 Mashwara which Bhai Wahab and Maulana Yaqoob themselves attended.
- It is implied that Maulana Inaamul Hasan 100% wanted the next Amir to be selected. Many eye witness have seen that this was NEVER the case. He may have eluded the election of a next Amir, but it was never 100% clearly said. Some eye witness also heard that he himself thought or wanted a Shuura system to protect the work since "Dunya is creeping into the effort". He basically left the decision to the 10 Shuura Council. This is the only established and undisputed fact.
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#32 [Permalink] Posted on 21st September 2022 21:54
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Assalaamualaikum WRWB,
Yes this is correct. Have heard this from several different elders. Can name them.
  • Haji Bostan, Dewsbury, U.K.
  • Ebrahim Lakhani, San Diego, USA,
  • Maulana Kareem Baksh, Multan, Pakistan
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#33 [Permalink] Posted on 21st September 2022 22:01
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The 3 Amirs you refer to were specifically appointed to decide the next Ameer.
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#34 [Permalink] Posted on 26th November 2022 14:14
Maulana saad sahib is back:

Things get normal now;
One Malaysian ijtema in foreign land
and
local Bhopal annual ijtema.

Normal crowd. (based on reports)
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#35 [Permalink] Posted on 26th November 2022 14:15
And regular Shoora ijtemas in foreign land.
Raiwid ijtema was also normal. (Reports)
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#36 [Permalink] Posted on 11th December 2022 10:16
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That is a lie. There is no proof that the shura was appointed to select an Ameer. The proof that we have is that in 1995, an agreement was forged which entails:

  • From now onwards, the responsibility of patronizing the work will not be on one individual; rather it will be on a whole Shura
  • Those who belong to the Nizamuddin from the Shura are members of the Shura for Nizamuddin and together will take care of the work there.
  • Bay’ah (Oath of allegiance) will be stopped in Nizamuddin Markaz.


Too many eye witnesses to this historical Mashwara and has even been testified by Bhai Wahab and Maulana Yaqub in their letters.

More details here => https://tablighi-jamaat.com/maulana-saads-treacherous-violation-1995-agreement/


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#37 [Permalink] Posted on 5th February 2023 11:38
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These are from authentic reports.

1. in June 1993, it was haj season, elders from across the world met in Makkah, decision was taken that henceforth decisions on tableegh effort will be taken by shura. (This Shura's decisions can be taken as decision by Ameer.)

2. In August 1993, in India, the names of this shura members were declared. 5+4+1 from sub-continent.

3. Maulana Saeed Khan sab Makki RA requested Hazrat Jee RA to clarify on who will be taking the final decision in the shura. Hazrat Jee RA clarified, select a Faisal among your shura members.

4. This shura from that day on wards took decisions till the day Hazrat Jee passed away on June 1995.

5. After Hazrat Jee Inaamul Hassan RA passed away, this shura met like their routine meet, a faisal was selected, after consultation, it was decided that :

(i) There shall be no Ameer from that day. Faisal from shura will take decisions.
(ii) Baiyyath is discontinued in banglay waali masjid.
(iii) For daily decisions related to banglay waali masjid (India), 3 faisals will take decision by turn,
3 days for each member. (Later all five were taking decisions as faisal.... by turn).

for further any clarifications, members can discuss, Insha Allah I shall try to get it clarified through authentic reports, no hearsay, no logical decisions, no qiyas, no assumptions.


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