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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 25th February 2022 14:42
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Let us go back in History and see a couple of Conspiracy's and how to get away with murder!

In a nutshell, 2 famous stories
First we have the story of Prophet Yusuf عليه السلام and the conspiracy to murder him and get away with it.

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The brothers were excited that they could now get rid of Yusuf عليه السلام for after this they could stand a better chance of receiving their father's affection. On leaving home, they went directly to the well, as they had planned, on the pretext of drinking water. One of them put his arms around Yusuf عليه السلام and held him tightly. Startled by this unusual behavior, Yusuf عليه السلام struggled to free himself. More brothers rushed to hold him. One of them removed his shirt. Some more joined in to lift Yusuf (a.s) up and cast him into the deep well. Yusuf's عليه السلام piteous pleas made no difference to their cruel hearts.

Then they killed a sheep and soaked Yusuf's عليه السلام shirt in its blood. One brother said that they should swear to keep their deed a close secret. All of them took the oath.


We all know the authenticity of this conspiracy and the rest of the story.

Now let's move on to the second plot to murder.
To kill Muhammad (saw)
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The Meccans, fearing the consequence of this new alliance, began to think seriously of preventing Muhammad (saw) from escaping to Yathrib. They met in all haste. After several milder expedients had been rejected, they decided that he (saw) should be killed. They agreed that one man should be chosen out of every tribe and that each man should strike a blow at him with his sword so that responsibility of the guilt would rest equally on all tribes. The Bani Hashim, Muhammad's own tribe (saw), were much inferior and therefore would not be able to revenge their kinsman's death.

A number of noble youths were selected for the bloody deed. As the night advanced, the assassins posted themselves round the Prophet's dwelling (saw). They watched all night long, waiting to murder Muhammad (saw) when he should leave his house at the early dawn. By some means the Prophet had been warned of the danger, and he directed 'Ali رضي الله عنه to lie down in his place and wrap himself up in his green cloak, which he did. The Prophet miraculously escaped, unperceived by the conspirators who had already assembled at the Prophet's door (saw). These, in the meantime, looking through a crevice and seeing Ali رضي الله عنه, whom they mistook for Muhammad (saw) himself, asleep, continued watching there until morning. When 'Ali رضي الله عنه arose, they found themselves deceived. The fury of the Quraish was now unbounded. The news that the would-be assassins had returned unsuccessful and that Muhammad (saw) had escaped aroused their whole energy. A price of a hundred camels was set upon Muhammad's head (saw)


Lying In Islam
Lying is the complete opposite of truth. So, anything that is untrue and deliberately intended to mislead another person is a lie. A lie, therefore, can be anything spoken or written that is totally or partially baseless, unreal, made-up, distorted or exaggerated; for example, if someone were to deliberately state that a five foot pole was a ten foot pole, then this would be a lie.

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The Prophet Muhammad (saw) also warned us: عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ كَفَى بِالْمَرْءِ كَذِبًا أَنْ يُحَدِّثَ بِكُلِّ مَا سَمِعَ
“It is enough of a lie for someone to narrate all that he hears”.
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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 25th February 2022 15:57
Regarding many topics being discussed over the last few years, one valid question is always raised.

I will quote a few below of such questions
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The answer to most of these have already been provided here, in a movie fashion
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So you don't need masses of people to be in on it.

You need one person to vouch for his findings and the whole world falls for the shambles! EG, our predicament of the monsighting!!!! :)


Some of the biggest lies ever pulled off were the Terrorist attacks around the world, the murder of President JFK, The moon landings and in recent times, The Coronavirus.

The Muslims DID bomb The World Trade Centre in 1993 but this was all planned by the non-Muslims for a bigger agenda and to place the blame on the Muslims alone!

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The tail wagging the dog is an idiom that usually refers to something important or powerful being controlled by something less so. Its earliest use is in the 1858 play Our American Cousin. The 1997 film Wag the Dog shortened the phrase and added the additional meaning of "superfluous (military) action in order to distract from domestic scandal."


So how could this be possible and why or how could thousands of people lie? How could they hide so much knowledge from spreading? There must be a large payoff for each individual involved.

Very good and valid points.

Follow the money and everything can be linked!
Look at Fizzy Sugary Drinks. When they were first introduced, they were advertised a "good for the health and children" Now look where we are with sugary drinks.
Look at cigarettes. When they were first intorduced, they are advertised as "good for your cough"
Now look where we are with cigarettes.

Today, these two are big killers and who is making billions from it?

A few more reminders (JZK AM for findings these posts for me, it would've taken me ages to go through all the threads and post, which by the way, I would have done if I needed to)
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So lets pick on ONE example and see what happened at NASA, the US Military and the CIA!

This is a real life account and answer to how all this was and is possible!

Remember, the Secret Services control the media, have people in place at the highest places of the highest roles. Anyone who does not comply, is simply relocated to either another role or six feet under!

During the Moon Landings many astronauts raised many issues and concerns of items not working correctly or not even capable of carrying any such tasks.

The CIA had at least 10 known astronauts killed off in 3 years leading to the launch of Apollo 11 because they did not comply or to cover up for another's death and blamed it on accidents. For example, The man who was supposed to walk on the moon first was supposed to be Lieutenant Colonel Virgil Ivan "Gus" Grissom.

However, upon making thousands of complaints to NASA about its flaws in their designs in the equipment, he was always ignored. Not one item was corrected, replaced or fixed. Grissom was an honest man and would go public about his findings. In fact, he even hung a lemon on top of the rocket where they did their training to show that it has many flaws and have not been looked at.

To murder Grissom would expose NASA so the CIA had to make it look like an accident and therefore, 2 other astronauts were killed with him. They were Ed White and Roger B. Chaffee

So what about the rest of the engineers and experts working on the space craft, rockets, moon lander, buggy and all the rest of the equipment?

According to high ranking sources during the Apollo program, Grissom and others complained about many engineers. They noted that most of the engineers and staff would simply sit back, drink alcohol and

Among Grissom's last words were, "How can we reach the moon when we can't even talk between two buildings" Moments later, the 3 astronauts were burned alive.

Those who participated did so for greed, fear or their life and or fear of their families lives.

After Grissom, the second leading critic, NASA Mission Quality Inspector, Thomas Baron

Who was Thomas Baron and what happened to him:
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Baron compiled a 169-page report critical of safety standards at North American Aviation, and leaked his report to the media. After NAA learned of this, they fired him.

After the Apollo 1 fire Baron wrote a 275-page report on NASA safety protocol violations, which he gave to Rep. Olin E. Teague's investigation at Cape Kennedy, Florida, on April 21, 1967.

The chairman of the NASA Oversight Committee claimed that Baron had made a valuable contribution to the Apollo fire probe, but that he had been "overzealous".

Six days after his testimony, Baron was killed instantly, along with his wife and stepdaughter, when a train crashed into their car near their home in Florida. Baron's death, which was witnessed by a woman, was later ruled as an accident, with no suspicion of foul play.


Thomas Baron was a meticulous record keeper who said there was not a single NASA operating procedure among 1000's that was completed without a compromising deviation from safety protocol. He also complained that all the employees at NASA were constantly being shifted from one department to another, just before they had a full understanding of what they were doing. A very odd procedure that was the precise opposite of what you would really do.

Staff being moved around were orders given from above. No employee ever became aware of the technicalities and challenges which laid ahead, never seeing the true potential of their achievements, This was done so that no one at NASA ever saw the full picture of the incapability's of the equipment.

Everything was assumed by trusting some other unseen division within the organisation.

This departmental organisation was the same technique that was used during the construction of the highly secretive nuclear bomb during world war 2. There were almost 130,000 total employees with each one working on various minor parts, yet only about 8 people at the very top knew what they were actually building!

NASA's whistle blower, Bill Kaysing was one of the few who saw the whole picture because he proof read and edited the spelling and grammar of leading officials texts and letters. as did Thomas Baron, which enabled them both to uniquely see what was really going on!

Any and every report made against NASA including all the blueprints for all of NASA's works on going on the moon was all destroyed!

And the lie continues
We believe them
We share them
We spread them
We teach our children
We cannot accept our leaders lie
We have been brainwashed into believing "Our Government is God". Something they have been doing for thousands of years
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We are now part of the lie. We are liars for spreading their lies!

We are asked for evidence. The evidence is mocked because The Government CANNOT Lie. The Government is God!

We provide countless proofs, but we are still liars!

We are told we are losing our credibility as an Islamic forum lol. What, by speaking the truth?

If you want to believe, believe. You want to blame, blame. But don't accuse us of lying when you are being very biased!

We have disagreements on these lies, but we are open minded about it, for example, abu mohammed and super-glue do not agree on the black holes or dinosaurs as they are perceived, yet they continue to explore with an open mind, taking in all the evidence they can, so why can't you?

Why can't you actually commit yourself to learn not to be deceived?

People get away with murder and no one is any the wiser. All you need is someone on top of someone on top of someone and no one knows who is pulling the strings. The ones pulling the trigger or detonating the bomb is carrying out 4th or 5th hand instructions!

That's how you get away with murder too!
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