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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 8th December 2021 16:50
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Shaykh Hudhaify is known to go against his leaders. Perhaps it would've been better if he was the imaam
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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 8th December 2021 17:06
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Well considering the track record of both leaders in recent years.

Sir, you've documented their excesses in excellent detail. However, political commentators tell us that all nations act in self interest. The age of honor is long gone. Saudi relationships with India, China, Israel, Europe are all based on hard economics. They have a lot of bilateral trade, and KSA will not rock the boat and jeopardize its economic interests for any notion of "Islamic brotherhood." Islamic brotherhood might have meant something a few decades ago when there was a nearly limitless supply of oil money.

Similarly, all politicians also act in self interest. So, if it's fashionable to support mujahideen and helps get votes, that is what politicians will do. If, on the other hand, it is fashionable to hate on Islam and Muslims and that helps get votes, every politician and his uncle is going to turn into an Islamophobe.

The Arabs have been corrupted by nearly a century of wealth and power. This is what the Prophet SAW feared most for his ummah, that they would be destroyed not by poverty, but when the treasures of the world were laid at their feet. Again, I would wager to say that MBS and MBZ may or may not be rabid Islamophobes, but they certainly are intoxicated by their wealth and power.
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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 8th December 2021 18:51
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Allah's curse be upon them.
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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 8th December 2021 22:19
Salaam.

Why is everyone so surprised? It's not like it's the first time they are showing their true colours. It seems that even if the Saudis were to openly declare kufr, there will be a section of the Muslim community who will try to give them the benefit of the doubt.
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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 9th December 2021 00:21
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Sure I understand governments act on self-interest and politicians act on self-interest.

Most of the muslim countries do this
But most muslim countries recognise their weakness and maintain silence.

But when you have governments and their ministers issuing statements in support of the enemies of Islam and excusing their policies. Then they are no longer acting in simple self-interest they are being complicit.

Maybe you should look up the statements of MBS during his visitis to India and China. And the statements of U.A.E. and their leaders and ministers those statements I am sure are present on other threads. Statements In Support of Modi and in Support of Chinese Genocide of the Uighurs, in support of Kashmiri genocide and in support of Palestinian genocide and oppression. In support of French policies. Not only have they have offered support in the form of words but they have followed their support up with new trade and economic deals.

Once you have read the statements and policies of Saudi abd UAE in regards to this.Then get back to me.... If this is simple self-interest. Or if it is Complicity.

There is nothing ambiguos about the rabid hatred towards Islam of MBS and MBZ they have a clear and open enemity towards Islam. And that is an incontrovertible fact borne out by their policies.





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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 9th December 2021 02:30
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Once you have read the statements and policies of Saudi abd UAE in regards to this.Then get back to me.... If this is simple self-interest. Or if it is Complicity.

Sir, you have decades more experience than me, so I'm going to rely on your reading of the situation. Jazakallah.
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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 9th December 2021 06:55
Assalamualaikum
This hurts

Tomorrow the khateeb may read out
1. Tableegh is far from tawheed
2. They are ahle bid'ah
3. They have Madhab dominance
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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 9th December 2021 07:31
1. Majority in tableeg are sub-continent brothers.
2. The new law demanding about 50,000 saudia riyals per family, which is about 1 million Indian rupees per year, the migrants are forced to leave KSA. So naturally the tabhlighis will return to their countries.

3. Many tabhligis migrated to KSA purely for religious freedom and save imaan of their children, they had better opportunities in US/Europe/Canada. Now it is time for them to say good bye to KSA.

3. All the energies in KSA is spent on Tawheed. Ibaadah is a skeleton. Irtidad of Ma'amilaath, muashirath, Akhlaq among youth is clearly visible, this was predicted by a Deobandi faqeer a few decades back.
The Musical carnivals, festivals etc are attracting millions of youth and watched on TVs by crores.
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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 9th December 2021 09:15
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Then they must withdraw their tag of KHAADIMUL HARAMAIN.

They must openly declare, we don't need barakah in return for their service to Haramain, all they need is Financial returns, let it come whatever way it is.
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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 9th December 2021 09:52
Decades back a deobandi faqeer had warned:

There is no doubt this is Irtidaad, but it didn't attract attention of Muslims. why?

Because the Muslim affected by this Irtidad never declares his Irtidad, never visits a church. Society won't take notice of him, this person lives in our society, enjoys all his rights and given an opportunity, he dominates the society. Ulema ignore all this. If it was a visible irtidad, they would have remembered Ali RA

قضیّۃ ولا ابا حسن ؓ لھا۔۔

Or Abu Bakr RA

قضیّۃ ولا ابا بکر ؓ لھا۔۔


Today our leaders are blind followers of capitalism/materialism. They are ready to sacrifice every Aqeedah and Islamic values for this, in other words they prefer Duniya over Aakhirah, they follow their Nafs and they are ready to do anything to satisfy their Nafs. Their body language is; Shariah is obsolete and in present conditions Shariah is abrogated.
......... A long sermon delivered by a Deobandi Faqeer decades back.

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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 9th December 2021 21:53
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#27 [Permalink] Posted on 9th December 2021 22:56
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We might see fewer muayqali copycats now
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#28 [Permalink] Posted on 10th December 2021 02:06
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Is it possible he's going along with the government's orders because defiance would mean endangering his own life?
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#29 [Permalink] Posted on 10th December 2021 09:52
i heard shaykh mahirs khutbah he didnt mention them at all. kudos to him he got away with it.
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#30 [Permalink] Posted on 10th December 2021 10:27
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