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#226 [Permalink] Posted on 6th September 2021 18:25
So what happens if the vaccine becomes absolutely mandatory or at least mandatory to be able to function in society? What if they impose an absolutely fool proof method of vaccine ID? What's the plan?
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#227 [Permalink] Posted on 12th September 2021 10:40
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#228 [Permalink] Posted on 12th September 2021 13:02
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It's not shocking to me at all anymore. The public willingly gave away these rights. Ulamaa promoted the mRNA jabs, joined in with the fear lust, got paid for taking the Russian roulette vaccine on camera and showed cult like behaviours when it came to face rags, masks.

So it won't be shocking when we're banned from Masjid in UK and it's the Imams and Muslims who will be at the gates "protecting" the Masjid from natural unvaxxed Muslims and denying entry.

I might have a meeting with an Imam today about exactly this. Still unconfirmed. Let's see what he has to say.
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#229 [Permalink] Posted on 12th September 2021 13:15
Does the public or at least the Muslim public, have a choice though if they start forcing the vaccine on them? Even if the ulema hadn't encouraged vaccination, the only way left is to rebel against the powers that be. Which leads to a total insurrection. And the ulema's stance on that is it's not allowed. What exactly are the options left for a general public which is already so in love with this dunya that it would rather not risk complicating or destroying the comforts they have build up over the years?
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#230 [Permalink] Posted on 12th September 2021 15:49
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Salaam.

This is a genuine question.

I have not taken the vaccine and have no intention of taking it.

What do we do if we are forced to take it?
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#231 [Permalink] Posted on 12th September 2021 17:40
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Salam,

Nearly everyone in my extended family has taken the vaccine, because we have nearly a dozen members who are doctors. Most have taken the vaccine simply because they have been mandated by either work or travel compulsions. Those that have the liberty to forsake work and/or travel have so far opted not to take the vaccine.

I suppose if someone genuinely fears harmful vaccine side effects based on their research, they should be exempted from taking the vaccine, because after all, the vaccine should be enough to protect those who have already been vaccinated. Law makers make decisions based on epidemiological expediency, and not on individual case by case risks.
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#232 [Permalink] Posted on 12th September 2021 20:45
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I won't answer for us as I don't know to be honest, but ib will raise and fight it till the end!

But, what I can tell you is that many qualified NHS and care workers have already left as they and I know plenty more who will either go back to their country or change career!
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#233 [Permalink] Posted on 16th September 2021 18:07
In the news soon!

Vaccines will be offered in schools to children.

Parents will have a say at first, then the child's say will override the decision if the parent says no!

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#234 [Permalink] Posted on 16th September 2021 20:51
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Gillick competence. Used for sexual "health" indirect normalisation of contraceptives and now trying for vaccines.

It this doesn't ring any alarm bells then there's really no hope for many unfortunate children.
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#235 [Permalink] Posted on 19th September 2021 10:47
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#236 [Permalink] Posted on 19th September 2021 11:25
Skiped position already, but skip a bit more
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFph7-6t34M&t=15533s This is big, Steve Kirsch from the FDA at around the 4:20 mark in the 8 hour meeting (4 hrs 20 mins into it), states that "Even if the vaccines had 100% protection, it still means we kill two people to save one life"...
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#237 [Permalink] Posted on 19th September 2021 11:59
There was mention of vaccinated people affecting the non vaccinated, i.e. Shedding and this was "swept under the carpet"

However, this is actually common knowledge amongst the experts and is happening and results are being monitored by the manufacturers.

Here, Pfizer-BioNTech talk about skin contact,shedding etc from a vaccinated person to a non vaccinated pregnant woman.

So shedding does happen!

See page 67 in pdf

8.3.5.1. Exposure During Pregnancy An EDP occurs if:

• A female participant is found to be pregnant while receiving or after discontinuing study intervention.

• A male participant who is receiving or has discontinued study intervention exposes a female partner prior to or around the time of conception.

• A female is found to be pregnant while being exposed or having been exposed to study intervention due to environmental exposure. Below are examples of environmental exposure during pregnancy:

• A female family member or healthcare provider reports that she is pregnant after having been exposed to the study intervention by inhalation or skin contact.

• A male family member or healthcare provider who has been exposed to the study intervention by inhalation or skin contact then exposes his female partner prior to or around the time of conception.

The investigator must report EDP to Pfizer Safety within 24 hours of the investigator’s awareness, irrespective of whether an SAE has occurred.

The initial information submitted should include the anticipated date of delivery (see below for information related to termination of pregnancy).

• If EDP occurs in a participant or a participant’s partner, the investigator must report this information to Pfizer Safety on the Vaccine SAE Report Form and an EDP Supplemental Form, regardless of whether an SAE has occurred.

Details of the pregnancy will be collected after the start of study intervention and until 6 months after the last dose of study intervention.

• If EDP occurs in the setting of environmental exposure, the investigator must report information to Pfizer Safety using the Vaccine SAE Report Form and EDP Supplemental Form.

Since the exposure information does not pertain to the participant enrolled in the study, the information is not recorded on a CRF; however, a copy of the completed Vaccine SAE Report Form is maintained in the investigator site file. Follow-up is conducted to obtain general information on the pregnancy and its outcome for all EDP reports with an unknown outcome.

The investigator will follow the pregnancy until completion (or until pregnancy termination) and notify Pfizer Safety of the outcome as a follow-up to the initial EDP Supplemental Form.

In the case of a live birth, the structural integrity of the neonate can be assessed at the time of birth.

In the event of a termination, the reason(s) for termination should be specified and, if clinically possible, the structural integrity of the terminated fetus should be assessed by gross visual inspection (unless preprocedure test findings are conclusive for a congenital anomaly and the findings are reported). Abnormal pregnancy outcomes are considered SAEs.

If the outcome of the pregnancy meets the criteria for an SAE (ie, ectopic pregnancy, spontaneous abortion, intrauterine fetal demise, neonatal death, or congenital anomaly), the investigator should follow the procedures for reporting SAEs.

Additional information about pregnancy outcomes that are reported to Pfizer Safety as SAEs follows:

• Spontaneous abortion including miscarriage and missed abortion;

• Neonatal deaths that occur within 1 month of birth should be reported, without regard to causality, as SAEs.

In addition, infant deaths after 1 month should be reported as SAEs when the investigator assesses the infant death as related or possibly related to exposure to the study intervention.

Additional information regarding the EDP may be requested by the sponsor. Further follow-up of birth outcomes will be handled on a case-by-case basis (eg, follow-up on preterm infants to identify developmental delays).

In the case of paternal exposure, the investigator will provide the participant with the Pregnant Partner Release of Information Form to deliver to his partner.

The investigator must document in the source documents that the participant was given the Pregnant Partner Release of Information Form to provide to his partner.

8.3.5.2. Exposure During
Breastfeeding An exposure during breastfeeding occurs if:

• A female participant is found to be breastfeeding while receiving or after discontinuing study intervention.

• A female is found to be breastfeeding while being exposed or having been exposed to study intervention (ie, environmental exposure). An example of environmental exposure during breastfeeding is a female family member or healthcare provider who reports that she is breastfeeding after having been exposed to the study intervention by inhalation or skin contact.

The investigator must report exposure during breastfeeding to Pfizer Safety within 24 hours of the investigator’s awareness, irrespective of whether an SAE has occurred.

The information must be reported using the Vaccine SAE Report Form.

When exposure during breastfeeding occurs in the setting of environmental exposure, the exposure information does not pertain to the participant enrolled in the study, so the information is not recorded on a CRF.

However, a copy of the completed Vaccine SAE Report Form is maintained in the investigator site file.

An exposure during breastfeeding report is not created when a Pfizer drug specifically approved for use in breastfeeding women (eg, vitamins) is administered in accord with authorized use.

However, if the infant experiences an SAE associated with such a drug, the SAE is reported together with the exposure during breastfeeding.

8.3.5.3. Occupational Exposure

An occupational exposure occurs when a person receives unplanned direct contact with the study intervention, which may or may not lead to the occurrence of an AE.

Such persons may include healthcare providers, family members, and other roles that are involved in the trial participant’s care.

The investigator must report occupational exposure to Pfizer Safety within 24 hours of the investigator’s awareness, regardless of whether there is an associated SAE.

The information must be reported using the Vaccine SAE Report Form.

Since the information does not pertain to a participant enrolled in the study, the information is not recorded on a CRF; however, a copy of the completed Vaccine SAE Report Form is maintained in the investigator site file.

Lots more in pdf
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#238 [Permalink] Posted on 21st September 2021 22:08
There's no such thing as covid, the covid vaccine is ineffective and the vaccinated can still catch and spread covid.

Times of confusion.
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#239 [Permalink] Posted on 21st September 2021 22:17
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There's no such thing as covid, but there is flu type bug, the covid vaccine is dangerous and the vaccinated can still catch and spread the covid bug

Times of confusion to start with, then things started to get much clearer. But for some, they just didn't fall for it from the start
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