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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 16th March 2021 16:43
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Have you seen the recent video by Dr Naik on why am the videos are removed from YouTube?

Not being able to debate is not the reason.


Also, Hinduism is to become mandatory to learn in schools in Saudi.
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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 16th March 2021 17:08
There is an opportunity here for dawah:

Ruling party Indian member of parliament Mrs Pragya Thakur recently told in her speech that caste system in Hinduism is created by god, no one must question it.

Shudras (lower caste Hindus) must not get hurt when they are called by their caste name, 'O Shudras'. They must take the job assigned to them.

This video is available on Youtube.
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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 17th March 2021 06:08
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This is based what inputs I have received.

Regarding Dr Zakir Naik's debate with Shri Ravi Shankar;

1. He was invited for inter faith dialog, not for debate.

I think when the debate or dialogue happened Dr Zakir Naik was already very well known for what he does.
Thus Sr Sri knew what he was getting into.
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2. Ravi Shankar is not a debater, like, peer zulfikhar sab db or Maulana Tariq Jameel db can't debate, Maulana Ilyas Ghuman db and Maulana Tahir Gayavi DB can. Dr Zakir Naik is a debater. Debater vs a non-debater is not a level playing field.

Sri Sri, in that case should have stayed away.
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3. On stage, the dialogue was changed to a debate and Ravi Shankar was not prepared for it.

I am distressed that you are accusing your brother Dr Zakir Naik of deceit.
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4. Present government is supporter of Ravi Shankar. And they used their power.

I thought that rather than the government it was Sr Sri who was getting the video down.
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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 17th March 2021 07:41
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Wallah I have most respect for Dr Naik.

But what I have posted is true. Ravi Shankar was called for interfaith dialog and not for debate. Deceit is normal for a debater, they call it a strategy to corner the opponent.

Followers of Ravi Shankar are moderate like our sufees. That incident has changed them.

My request for others is not to repeat this. In India, Debate is not the solution, explain islam to others in 'Dars' way.

I never witnessed anyone, that he has lost the debate and accepted the opponent's view, rather he gets harsher than before.

Wallah my word is not to be taken as final. Brothers who face the situation are in better position to handle it.
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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 17th March 2021 09:10
We know three very good orators, DZN, MMS, MAS, they have very large following, their career was crippled and curtailed.

Our analysis is that their shortcoming was, they preferred the view of the zealot followers around them over golden advice by knowledgeable and the experienced.
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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 17th March 2021 09:51
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youtu.be/3P_k1kBJHBM

What actually happened. Let Dr Zakir Naik explain it himself.
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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 17th March 2021 10:16
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This is what media reported the next day.

Bangalore: When two dignitaries meet, it is bound to be an impressive crowd-puller. The same happened on Saturday when sri Ravi Shankar of the Art of Living Foundation, and Zakir Naik, founder of the IRF, spoke on their concept of God in Hinduism and islam.

An inter religious dialogue on understanding God between sri Ravi Shankar and Zakir Naik was attended in large numbers by people across the city on Saturday.

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The video doesn't say anything about whether it was a dialog or a debate. Zakir Naik himself said that it was inter faith dialog. I am not saying that what ravi shankar did after the session is right or wrong. But if he was not informed before the session that it is a debate, then we are wrong.
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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 17th March 2021 11:07
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Who is mms and msa
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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 17th March 2021 13:57
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Shudras are 50% of Indian population.

Majority of us who have closely watched the ummah agree that the major cause for present condition of Indian Muslims is that our treatment towards shudras (lower caste Hindus) was no different from the three upper caste Hindus, the Brahmins, the Kshtriyas and the Vaishyas treated the shudras; on many occasions, the treatment was worse than the upper caste Hindus.

We lost an opportunity, but not too late, time to wake up.
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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 2nd October 2021 06:44
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