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#91 [Permalink] Posted on 11th March 2020 16:35

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How is a Hindu Indian Army Solider deployed in Nagaland and killed by Maoists, "Shaheed"?

  1. This has nothing to do with Muslims
  2. This has nothing to with Kashmir
  3. This has nothing to do with Pakistan

I have heard this from Indian Ulama again and again and again.

Which part of Islam tells you this?

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#92 [Permalink] Posted on 11th March 2020 16:37
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What is fault of general Indian muslims there.
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#93 [Permalink] Posted on 11th March 2020 16:40
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Maybe they got it from Mo
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#94 [Permalink] Posted on 11th March 2020 16:42
It is actually quite shocking to see Muslims addressing the Mushrikeen as "brothers and sisters". It makes me wonder what kind of degeneracy the Muslims of today have descended into.

The way I see it, this has more to do with our love for this world and our repulsion towards the idea of doing Jihad. Once that emotion enters the heart people will look for any excuse to not do what is needed, like grasping at the aspect of dawah in Islam to convince ourselves and others that we are indeed more worried about rescuing people from Hellfire. Because let's face it, compared to the former, the latter is the much more convenient option, given the state of our eemaan.
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#95 [Permalink] Posted on 11th March 2020 16:44

Reminder to Indian Muslims

  1. You do not need to engage in these discussions
  2. No Hindu is asking you to engage in these threads
  3. It is Sunnah to either speak good or keep quiet

If you are ignore all of the above then there is deviousness in your heart.

How is a Hindu Indian Army Solider deployed in Nagaland and killed by Maoists, "Shaheed"?

  1. This has nothing to do with Muslims
  2. This has nothing to with Kashmir
  3. This has nothing to do with Pakistan

I have heard this from Indian Ulama again and again and again.

Which part of Islam tells you this?

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#96 [Permalink] Posted on 11th March 2020 16:52
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How is a Hindu Indian Army Solider deployed in Nagaland and killed by Maoists, "Shaheed"?


20 crore muslims are not aware of that fatwah.
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#97 [Permalink] Posted on 12th March 2020 01:13
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I would assume they are using it in the sense of the word "martyr" as in one who died for his country.
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#98 [Permalink] Posted on 12th March 2020 01:20
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#99 [Permalink] Posted on 12th March 2020 01:25
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This is what is picked up by the hindutva extremists and used against us. You are making presumptions about the state of eeman of Indian Muslims.
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#100 [Permalink] Posted on 12th March 2020 01:54
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An Indian has to write "shaheed bhagat Singh" and "jalian wala Bagh ke shuhda' in his answer sheet. Many shuhda' were cremated.

Can br muadh prove that people who die for Present Pak are shaheed?
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#101 [Permalink] Posted on 12th March 2020 02:27
Muslims in India sadly think that there is some propaganda against Hindus and they think Hindus will stand by their side.

1. الكفر ملة واحدة
2. Like one of the Brothers pointed out, tell any liberal Hindu or Non Muslim you don’t support faggots. Then watch the colours on their face change.

Tell them you support polygyny, rajm, gender segregation etc.
3. From the encounter I have had through out my life with mainly Indian Gujratis (“Deobandis”) all of them have this stench of hatred with Pakistanis and they make it a point to hand it over to there children. What affinity do you have with Mushriks?
4. This Kafan of Nationalism that Indian muslims have for their “Maa Bahrat” must be removed. When will they realize that we Pakistani Muslims are ready to give our lives for you. Why do they look towards the Hindus for aid?
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#102 [Permalink] Posted on 12th March 2020 02:30
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يا أيها الذين آمنوا إنما المشركون نجس
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#103 [Permalink] Posted on 19th March 2020 15:56
Mujib Mashal in NYT on US-Taliban Deal


I have linked this earlier too but here it is again.

Afghanistan apparently vexed three White House administration.

Vexing basically amounts to producing a stretched muscle above your eye brow.

Viet Nam was a nasty surprise for the US.

Afghanistan is slightly more than that. And it will take time before US realizes what they experienced in Afghanistan.

The US faced the steely will of impoverished people in Viet Nam.

The US faced the steely will of followers of Islam, again impoverished but that is a distraction, in Afghanistan.

Hamza Yusuf summarizes for us here the responses of a civilization as told to us by the most reliable authority - Arnold J. Toynbee.

Toynbee said that a civilization (1947 Essay in Civilization on Trial) is confronted by a challenge the response either might be Herodianism or Zealotism. In former the civilization tries to mimick the attacker and in the later it tries to fall back on its past.

Now that is west centric view. The question is how did US react when attacked by OBL in 2001? Did US start mimicking Islam? Hardly. Did US fall back on its classic routes? They have none. Clearly Toynbee, great as he was, failed to see even half a century later.
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#104 [Permalink] Posted on 19th March 2020 18:39
Hopefully, this doesn't become an issue in the peace process.

Coronavirus Disrupts Troop Withdrawal in Afghanistan
The U.S. commander in Afghanistan is halting American and allied troops from entering Afghanistan and, in turn, preventing some troops from leaving, for the next month, American and European officials said. The planning reflects mounting concerns as the coronavirus has spread in the country in recent days.

Gen. Austin S. Miller’s decision aims to protect his forces from the virus. But, in turn, it may complicate the drawdown of troops ordered by President Trump after the United States recently signed a peace agreement with the Taliban.
Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/18/world/asia/coronavirus-withdrawal-afghanistan.html

I believe the Taliban will accept the necessity of this, hopefully I am correct.
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#105 [Permalink] Posted on 19th March 2020 20:56
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I believe the Taliban will accept the necessity of this, hopefully I am correct

I haven't seen anyone more Just than the Taliban in my lifetime.
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