Meaning of US-Taliban Talks

Ignore Pakistan while discussing this issue because your brain will rebel on you for seeing the words.

IF the Ulama of India are advising:

1. Indian Muslims to join the Indian Army and then obey orders which includes oppressing Kashmirees (and once you are in the Army you don't have a choice!)
   
2. Indian Muslims to obey the Indian Constitution (no matter what)
   

Then it is WAAJIB (obligatory) on Indian Muslims to DISOBEY these "Ulama"

Why?

Replace the word "Indian" with "Israeli" in the above post and tell me what is your opinion? Should Palestinians join the Israeli Army and then oppress Palestinians?

I fully understand that some "Deobandees" will lash out and not get this but don't worry Modi has made sure that majority of Indian Muslims have understood it.

You can debate the issue all you want here, practically the issue is signed and sealed.

Thank You, Modi Sarkar

No. Not when they tell you something which is against Islam.

Your obey Ulama as long as they tell you what is in the Qur'aan and the Sunnah. Your obedience is to Allah Ta'ala and his Rasool (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam). 

Are you telling me that Palestinian citizens of Israel are duty-bound to be patriotic to Israel?

Just close your eyes and think! Based on your example of India.

Ulama and Ulu-Amr are two separate positions, they can be occupied by same set of people OR not. And by the way, the Ulama are not united upon the "loyalty to Gandhi-Jee" issue.

Hazrat (Maulana) Ashraf Ali Thanwi (RA) HATED Gandhi and BACKED Pakistan (i.e. a separate state for Muslims independent from Hindus)

So the simple answer for you is to follow the Ulama who are on the right track and not the ones who are mistaken. Ulama are humans.

You have not considered the question.

India: It is an obligation upon Indian Muslims to be patriotic and obey the constitution because it is an Islamic duty.

Israel: Does the same apply to Palestinian citizens of Israel?

Yes or No?

India is finished and it is a matter of time before it disintegrates. Keep your head down and go about your lives but India (as it is today) is over. Hundreds of thousands or may be millions will die before it fractures but its done.

The entire essence of Israel is Anti-Islam and Anti-Muslim and there is no disagreement on the matter.

You are at war with them (ideologically) because this is what Allah Ta'ala has declared in the Qur'aan. Islam is diametrically opposed to Shirk.

Gandhi was a Mushrik so he could not lead you (a proclaimer of Tawheed) towards anything. It is a simple issue in Islam.

Once you remove Islam from the picture then you can take the stance which you are describing.

The "Ulama" have drilled this idea into your head DESPITE your own eyes witnessing what has been happening in India before and since 1947.

You are watching "Hindus" stand idly by from Hyderabad to Kashmir and Police actively inflict oppression on Muslims and "Ulama" telling you "No, this is a tiny minority so don't worry about it"

Islam has a FUNDAMENTAL OPPOSITION to Shirk.

Modi Sarkar has explained this to vast majority of Indian Muslims, those who blindly follow whatever the "elders" tell you will look at reality and offer themselves some explaination.

Wallahi! It breaks my heart to say this but Allah Ta'ala DOES NOT like the preference of Shirk over Tawheed and there have been and will be consequences.

Do not look at the issue from the perspective of personalities but the issue itself and it is diametrically opposed to the foundations of Islam.

Allah Ta'ala DISLIKES Shirk and a Mushrik can NEVER be your friend.