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#61 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2019 12:14

This is laughable. Seriously. Even the Indian media has their mushriks fretting about the fact that how do you fight an army whose personnel are celebrated for death achieved in war. Whose family throws parties in their honour if someone from their family dies. And here we have a "Muslim" worried about there not being enough funds to sustain a war.
Looks like people have forgotten history. Even open faasiqs of our country like Bhutto were willing to "survive on grass" but not willing to compromise on our nuclear programs, so do you think anything has changed since then? If anything, Pakistan has become more Islamised since those days. Do you really think the general population is sitting here worried about our economy? Let me dispel that impression of yours. The general population is criticizing Imran Khan for talking about peace instead of going for an all-out war.

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#62 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2019 12:18

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Have you muslims in India been so brainwashed that you have gone and lost your minds.

Since the mass rape genocide oppression of the Kashmiri people has nothing to do with Islam.

Then we can state when the tyrrany and oppresion is visited upon you within India as we saw in Gujarat but in a grander scale that oppression will come whther it takes 5 years or 10 years or whenever ..... Then that will also have nothing to do with Islam.

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#63 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2019 12:22

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The border is not clearly differentiated, they were lured in during dog fight to be ‘technically’ on Pakistani side of border,probably that is why only one out of two migs fell into Pakistani territory(the other one fell inside Indian occupied Kashmir).

Pakistan is walking on a tight rope,it does not want escalation,it does not want war,still it has to respond...and it has to keep struggling with its image of a rogue state harbouring terrorists.Right now they are trying to fight on every front,military,diplomatic,domestic and are trying out of their way to give a soft image of a peace loving country.

That is why it wants to be technically on the safe side

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#64 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2019 12:32

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As for option 3 (conspiracy), we will find out in 24-48 hours.I have a feeling you may be right...

Many months ago I heard an Indian minister talking on TV saying (by Feb/March or March/April we would be ready for our move)...I don’t remember the name now...

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#65 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2019 12:35

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If this matter does not pertain to religion, then Pakistan or its people have no kind of obligation towards the Indian Muslims' well-being and thus if attacks are carried out in India by Pakistani organizations, we don't care how it affects the Indian Muslims either. We will appreciate them because it's only a regional matter, and regionally speaking India is enemy that must be destroyed along with the Indian population, mushrik or non-mushrik. Because it's a regional matter and nothing to do with religion.

Looks like that living with mushriks and sympathizing with them has completely addled your brains. You need a reality check.

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#66 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2019 12:40

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Hmm...quite possible. Wouldn't be the first time that Israel has tried that. During Zia-ul-Haq's tenure, something similar happened I believe. Back then Israel and India were preparing their air force in India to mount an attack on Pakistan.

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#67 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2019 12:47

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Once Kashmir was an independent state, it is Pakistan which made it a bone of contention....
First, you liberate your occupied Kashmir as you liberated Bangladesh, if you have any sympathy with them.

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#68 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2019 12:59

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No, keep this sympathy-package with you.

If you really have sympathy with Muslims then break friendship with China that is persecuting Chinese Muslims.

Can you do it.....?

No... Never...

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#69 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2019 13:04

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Will Indians ever show more sympathy for non Indian Muslim's than they do for non Muslim Indians?

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#70 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2019 13:15

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General population are calling for war? O' really? Can you provide any shred of proof if that's the case?

If you're that hell bent on going to war with India, then do something about it why dontcha'? Perhaps, go rally and protest near his home with a contingent who also thirst for Indian blood? Who knows you might just tip him in the right direction.

Do any scholars in Pakistan, albeit from any strand share your war mongering attitude?

Alhamdulillah, Pakistan has a leader with a cool head and will think sensibly before putting innocent lives at risk (on both sides).

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#71 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2019 13:21

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Do any scholars in Pakistan, albeit from any strand share your war mongering attitude?

Maybe not an allout war mongering attitude, but for success in what may be?

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#72 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2019 13:25

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I'm in full agreement with Mufti Taqi Usmani and I'm in full support of Pakistan not taking backwards step, but the biggest objective is deescalating the whole situation politically and militarily then proceeding to peace talks between the nuclear nations.

Mufti Sahib is not calling up on Pakistan:

- To make niyah for war.
- Write your wills.
- Ensure your family has enough sustenance in your absence.
- Say goodbye in the off-chance you may not return.

BIG difference!

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#73 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2019 13:29

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First of all, I never offered you sympathy and am becoming increasing unlikely to. Like I said, common sense has left you due to your association and involvement with mushrikeen. The people of Pakistan are 100% sympathetic with the cause of the Chinese Muslims. It's just that we are not empowered enough to be able to do anything about it. We are being ruled by a secular elite and we have no way to dislodge them from power at the moment. Even so, the Muslims of Pakistan show their support in whatever way they can. Even if it's just words.

What the Muslims of India are doing is complete opposite. They are not only criticizing their Muslim brothers for standing up to the oppression of the mushrikeen, they are infact sympathizing and asking other Muslims to sympathize with the mushrikeen. We never demanded from the Indian Muslims to start participating in the jihad against the Indian mushrikeen. We know the ground situation there. We know they are just as helpless as we are against our faasiq rulers. But we expect them not to discourage those who have enough eemaan and Tawakkul in Allah to act against the mushrik aggressors. But no, we Pakistani Muslims are being labeled terrorists for standing up to the mushrikeen, even by the Indian Muslims.

You need to seriously reconsider your emaan now. Or just stop posting here before you do lasting damage to yourself.

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#74 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2019 14:07

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26FEB2019: UNIFIED PRESS RELEASE BY ULAMA OF PAKISTAN

Media Center Wifaaq ul Madaris Al-Arabia- Pakistan.

Islamabad (February 26, 2019) India’s aggression, India’s war crimes have been demonstrated, if the Pakistan Army responds to India’s attacks. The whole nation is with the army. The war should not be instigated, but if the war comes to Pakistan, then the enemy will be defeated. India will try to undermine the region’s stability, this will be a bad decision for them, we will demonstrate national unity and integrity.

Dr.Abdur Razzak Iskandar ,Maulana Anwar ul Haq, Maulana Mufti Muhammad Rafi Uthmani , and Maulana Mohammad Hanif Jalandhari , expressed their reaction to the India’s aggression, expressing their views:

They said that Indian aggression is a demonstration of Indian’s intent for war that will prove to be destructive for India.They said that the efforts of India to be undermine the region's stability will be costly, leaders of the wifaaq ul madaris al-arabia has said that the army is responding to the enemy's face, the whole nation behind and supports the army.

They said that the war should not be desired, but if the war is sought, then with passion we should demonstrate a call to jihad with honor and courage.

The leaders of the wifaaq ul madaris al-arabia appealed to the nation to demonstrate unity and solidarity - they said those responsible for the mosques and madrassas all over the country should arrange for prayers - and assist in every way to defend our people from India’s aggression, be prepared too and make public mindful too.

Released: Media Center Wifaaq ul Madaris al-Arabia.

*میڈیا سنٹر وفاق المدارس العربیہ پاکستان*

اسلام آباد (26 فروری 2019ء)

بھارتی جارحیت، بھارت کے جنگی جنون کا مظاہرہ ہے, پاک فوج بھارت کو منہ توڑ جواب دے. پوری قوم فوج کے ساتھ ہے. *جنگ مانگنی نہیں چاہیے لیکن اگر جنگ مسلط کر دی جائے تو پھر دشمن کو عبرتناک شکست دینی چاہیے.* بھارت کو علاقے کا تھانیدار بننے کی کوشش مہنگی پڑے گی, قوم اتحاد و یکجہتی کا مظاہرہ کرے.

ان خیالات کا اظہار وفاق المدارس العربیہ پاکستان کے قائدین *مولانا ڈاکٹر عبدالرزاق اسکندر، مولانا انوار الحق، مولانا مفتی محمد رفیع عثمانی اور مولانا محمد حنیف جالندھری صاحبان* نے بھارتی جارحیت پر اپنے ردعمل کا اظہار کرتے ہوئے کیا.

انہوں نے کہا کہ بھارتی جارحیت بھارت کے جنگی جنون کا مظاہرہ ہے جو بھارت کے لیے تباہ کن ثابت ہوگا. انہوں نے کہا کہ بھارت کی طرف سے خطے کا تھانیدار بننے کی کوشش اسے مہنگی پڑے گی-وفاق المدارس کے قائدین نے کہا کہ *پاک فوج دشمن کو منہ توڑ جواب دے پوری قوم پاک فوج کی پشت پر ہے-*

انہوں نے کہا *جنگ کی خواہش نہیں کرنی چاہیے لیکن اگر جنگ مسلط کر دی جائے تو پھر جذبہ جہاد، غیرتِ ایمانی اور بہادری کا مظاہرہ کرنا چاہیے-*

وفاق المدارس کے قائدین نے قوم سے اپیل کی کہ وہ اتحاد و یکجہتی کا مظاہرہ کریں-انہوں نے ملک بھر کی مساجد و مدارس کے ذمہ داران سے کہا کہ وہ دعاوں اور رجوع الٰی اللہ کا اہتمام کریں-اور دفاع وطن کے لیے ہر طرح سے خود بھی تیار رہیں اور عوام کی بھی ذہن سازی کریں

جاری کردہ: میڈیا سنٹر وفاق المدارس العربیہ پاکستان

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#75 [Permalink] Posted on 28th February 2019 14:08

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Perhaps you are absent minded. I reiterate Indian Muslims don't need any sympathy neither from Pakistani government nor from Pakistani people.

Alhamdulillah we are Muslims but Indian Muslims, if any Muslim country is enemy of India, is our enemy as well.

Got it....?

Your pervez musharraf offered this sympathy package with Indian Muslims, then Molana Mehmood madani insulted him... Yes, literally insulted him.

Google ''molana mehmood madani insulted pervez musharraf''

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