The Grand Debate: Muadh Khan v xs11ax

Already understood and admitted.

Offtopic: Test for Black Magic/Evil Eye

Human body is anatomically universal and it is affected in the same way whether you are a Hayati or a Mamati. If you can touch and feel a pulse at point LI4, it is possible that you are affected by Black Magic.

tcmpoints.com/large-intestine/li4-hegu/

Nothing to do with being a “Hayati Deobandi” or “practising” to have the pulse or to be able to feel the pulse, it is the same location and same symptom.

Offtopic: Cure for Black Magic/Evil Eye

1. Perform Sunnah Ruqya
2. Put pressure on SP1 with the Yaqeen and firm belief that Allah Ta'ala will provide a cure, Insha'Allah
   

www.steve-woodley.co.uk/?content=pointsearch&point=Sp-1

I seem to be loosing my mind :P

I thought somewhere in some post I asked for explicit evidence that cupping is cure for Black Magic etc.

Did I reply or did not post it directly to you?I am Sorry for repeating this because I cannot seem to find my own post.

I asked for explicit evidence of cupping being the cure for Black Magic and not implicit that it is “a cure for many illnesses”. You responded with:

Rasulullah صلى الله عليه وسلم is reported to have said:

“Cupping is the most helpful procedure for human beings to cure themselves.” (Sahih al-Bukhari 5357)

Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allah have mercy on him) mentions that the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) was cupped on his head when he was afflicted with magic and that it is from the best of cures for this if performed correctly. [Zad al-Ma’ad (4/125-126)]

Did I ask you for an explicit statement or am I imagining things? :P

Ok so that settles it, I thought that I was loosing my mind…It actually never got posted.

There is no explicit evidence of cupping curing Black Magic, it is implied. Same can be applied to Honey and many others things.

Its not acupuncture and I was making a different point that human biology is the same and symptoms are similar and you don't need to be a "Muslim" or a "Hayati" to figure out that something is wrong with the human body.

All conjecture...

All based on experience and conjecture.

The Sunnah is always explicit and clear.

Many items and methods are told to be a cure, starting with:

Loading Qur'aan Verse

Then eat from all the fruits and follow the ways of your Lord laid down [for you]." There emerges from their bellies a drink, varying in colors, in which there is healing for people. Indeed in that is a sign for a people who give thought.

So we have people selling all kinds of Honey and specific methods and properties etc.