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#31 [Permalink] Posted on 21st May 2019 02:32
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#32 [Permalink] Posted on 21st May 2019 09:11
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I've updated the post but point 1 is still empty.

(Any post that starts with a number shows up as blank. If you find this is the case. please simply select edit on your post and the update without any changes. I've found this to fix the issue)
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#33 [Permalink] Posted on 21st May 2019 11:32
ummat wasting time on Ramadan.

Spend time and diagnose yourself, stop online Dawah and guiding nizamuddin/elders through Android phones.
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#34 [Permalink] Posted on 21st May 2019 12:05
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I dont think anyone has typed nizamuddin here in this Ramadan. Brother sipraomer advising does not fall under time wasting.
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#35 [Permalink] Posted on 21st May 2019 12:26
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You are entitled to your opinions. I have come to this conclusion after a lot of pondering and after observing the major defects in today's tarteeb. And I think that today's tabligh has already gone astray from the path which Maulana Ilyas Rh had set. I have witnessed that in shorter tashkeels the saathis take it too lightly and tabligh becomes a picnic trip which is disastrous. Currently in Raiwind, buzurgs demand two things most. Tashkeel with foreginers and longer tashkeels. I have seen some problems in the teachings of Tablighi elders that is why I avoid listening to them except the hidayat section which is related to practical side of tabligh instead of being the aqeedah side of it.
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#36 [Permalink] Posted on 10th March 2025 10:21
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#37 [Permalink] Posted on 10th March 2025 14:34
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This incident is narrated by a staff member of a masjid in Texas. This is not a karguzari narrated by visiting jamaath. So no ghuloo to cash chillas.

A walking one year jamaath had camped near a church in Texas. Some 8 members came and bombarded their tent with automatic weapons for many minutes. Incidentally no one was hurt.
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#38 [Permalink] Posted on 10th March 2025 20:58
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We need evidence of this, like a news article, afterall most tablighi talk are tales.
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#39 [Permalink] Posted on 11th March 2025 06:53
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There are two possibilities:

1. Tablighis are using AI to generate this video.
2. Tablighis have stage managed and installed a person to lie on camera.

Note that, this person in video has strong differences with methodology of tablighees.
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#40 [Permalink] Posted on 11th March 2025 09:00
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Need evidence.
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#41 [Permalink] Posted on 11th March 2025 09:04
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If the incident is not true, then the person who is presenting the video is a lier or using AI to make that video.

You have the right to chose.
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#42 [Permalink] Posted on 11th March 2025 09:34
Tablighi karghuzaris are good to listen to but only first hand or if relayed by a reliable tablighi elder. Not these youtubers who clickbait audience for views. That's why it's important to sit and listen to karghuzari when a jamat returns back to your locality from a chilla or 4 months so you become aware of the ahwaal and be inspired but most importantly you'd be hearing it first hand.
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#43 [Permalink] Posted on 11th March 2025 12:52
Karguzaris like these should not be publicized that much. They should mostly be narrated to the circle of Tablighi elders. Young people of today are chasing such miracles when they join the jamaats.
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#44 [Permalink] Posted on 11th March 2025 13:41
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In my days lots of people and youngsters would go to TJ, today the group has declined as youth turn into men with responsibilities, and older Amirs have all passed away replaced by younger ones who try and attract new recruits. Also people have been put off by the split.
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#45 [Permalink] Posted on 11th March 2025 14:04
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No research model works with tableegh.

young become men (like me) and declare kaam mein woh baath na rahi (It is not the same effort now) and adopt go slow approach. But youth take over with more zeal and we have to put brakes on them. This is happening since beginning of tableegh.

Regarding the split, I was also thinking it will effect the noble effort. But the result is, saathees offer more sacrifices to prove either maulana saad is right or shura akabir are right.

Till the time, Allah SWT wills the effort shall move on. The day Allah SWT selects an alternative, its all over. But we don't see an alternative now.
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