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#46 [Permalink] Posted on 26th December 2018 00:21
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I am going to open up what takes place in households because of the major mistakes of (dare I say it) Celebrity status Scholars.

How many men can a woman take with her to hell?

Answer:4

-Father
-Brother
-Husband
-Son

Now when a scholar at this level moves. He needs to move with extreme care. I'm sure these scholars have Tahzir of Ahaadeth flowing through their minds. A believer should not go to any place where he can be wrongly accused of. That was the Mufti Saabs mistake about whom you mentioned. The slandering, everyone says it wrong. But he should be more careful as to not cause people to fall into sin. After all, we are sheep.

MashaAllah Ta'ala MTJ such a beautiful speech he gives. *This is not about me, just giving real scenarios I know people have encountered*. A wife says hubby can we go RIS. Husband says No. Wife says but MTJ is going. Husband says its wrong there is music other men will try to look at you and you can see them. Wife says MTJ is so pious you don't have more piety than him. He knows, you are just a regular person. So Argument happens. I can take QASAM and tell you marriages have broken because a girl is not allowed to go to an event or parties. What do you know about the repercussions of these peoples actions?

Second scenario. Mother and son. Mother we shouldn't go its haram music and men and women sitting together. Mother says Beta you know nothing the pride of PAKISTAN MTJ is coming. Let's go. Party starts

I know so many women that use the mistakes of Big Scholars against their husbands, sons, fathers and brothers. Again dare I say it, you know how many "hojabis" come there. A man would burn inside. But MTJ came last year and in his video said all these young girls were running towards me. Toronto has the most beautiful women in the world. I am talking about statistics from my days of jahilliya. My database in my head has since been wiped through the grace of Allah Ta'ala. The damage is irreparable. He clearly says he saw them running towards him. The same MTJ that says I forgot Ahaadith by seeing one part of a woman. My brother, you would forget yourself if you saw the women in Toronto.

I have cousins who are Jamaat Islami They tell me about how many promiscuous acts go on at these places. Volunteers and everyone else. Like one Big *O**y party.

Allah Ta'ala has sent me the evidence you were looking for: www.youtube.com/watch?v=FytXJpNkqWI MTJ--(how do you halalifi it) with A.R Rahman.
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#47 [Permalink] Posted on 26th December 2018 00:52
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Halalified YT Audio


Start from 5 minutes. He clearly tells you he knows about all the sin that takes place. Junaid Jamshed Rahmatullahi alaiy even told them MTJ would not come. But MTJ himself knowingly attend these events and wanted to attend.
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#48 [Permalink] Posted on 26th December 2018 02:48
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#49 [Permalink] Posted on 26th December 2018 03:10
Those people who know that these concerts are haram must not attend them even if some scholars are coming to preach. The target audience of these scholars are sinful music lovers and not pious muslim brothers and sisters. I hope I am making sense.
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#50 [Permalink] Posted on 26th December 2018 03:56
I guess there are no masjids and no madrasas in that country so dear maulana was forced to have his bayan in a concert hall.

Dear old maulana is so innocent he never enquires about the organisers and the venues the money and the works.

Makes me wonder why an alim the likes of Hakeem ul ummat Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanwi rah. was very strict in knowing beforehand all the information regarding when someone would request him to attend or give bayan at place.

If people can with all the formatting tools defend dear old maulana than it is also perfectly fine when someone defends a self proclaimed amir.
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#51 [Permalink] Posted on 26th December 2018 04:37
I have not posted in this forum for a couple of years, just got back a month ago.

This is just my personal opinion, and everyone can disagree with it, but we need to give people some space. It seems every thread becomes a War Zone.

In just my very very humble opinion, brother mSiddiqui made a valid thread and asked a valid question, and he has already accepted his mistake.

With this behavior, people would stop posting here. Everyone has opinions. As long as all opinions are within the boundaries of Shariah, we should give the benefit of doubt to everyone, and we should be accepting.

Ironically, we are ready to give Jews and Satanists the benefit of the doubt, even when their plans are crystal clear and evident. But we are not willing to give the benefit of the doubt to a believer. The Ummah has become two sensitive.

However, when something is explicitly wrong, a stand needs to be taken there. That too, politely.

Just my two cents.
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#52 [Permalink] Posted on 26th December 2018 05:13
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Well said
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#53 [Permalink] Posted on 26th December 2018 06:58
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Mashallah.
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#54 [Permalink] Posted on 26th December 2018 07:31
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#55 [Permalink] Posted on 26th December 2018 07:31
why no fatwa?
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#56 [Permalink] Posted on 26th December 2018 08:08
Maulana Tariq Jameel sahib's debut attendance was in RIS 2017 so their team should be well aware of the format:

  • Free mixing and seating without segregation
  • Female speakers
  • Convention ending with a concert (AR Rahman - YouTube clip dated 1st Dec confirms his attendance)


www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oCROyCrvx8
youtu.be/e_AkUnTCtzo?t=253
www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtMPLAAi-_w

twitter.com/risconvention/status/1069258822445871106
www.facebook.com/events/312249172595859/permalink/3148462...
www.facebook.com/risevents/videos/375101136366229/
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#57 [Permalink] Posted on 26th December 2018 09:20
Its not good to target a Maulvi for his participation where there are another programs too.
Best option - if this doesnt create any serious issues to your Deen, Duniya, Akhirah , please dont discuss this.
Are we complete following MTJ advice that he gives in his bayan; he tashkeels for 4M too.

Dont make simple things serious, and waste time of the ummat & dont lecture others, do researches.
Also, please dont criticize an Aalim. If you dont like, make dua for that Aalim in Tahajud and say to Allah instead of forums, whatsapp messages.
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#58 [Permalink] Posted on 26th December 2018 09:35
Methodology of Tablighi Jamaat

I also have some differences of opinion with this jamaat. However, the video above is for educational purposes that why some senior tablighees do the things they do. I am not supporting any particular individual for any wrong doing. Just trying to present a general idea about the methodology of Amr bil Maruf.
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#59 [Permalink] Posted on 26th December 2018 09:55
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السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته

Please explain. Post the hadith.
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#60 [Permalink] Posted on 26th December 2018 09:55
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There is a huge difference in the two!

It doesn't compare at all. A very bad example in my opinion. Didn't expect anyone to make such comparisons.

Maybe one of the reasons of our downfall as an Ummah!

We try to justify the wrongs and fall into the trap of Shaitan.
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