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#46 [Permalink] Posted on 20th May 2024 09:34
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#47 [Permalink] Posted on 20th May 2024 11:01
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A muslim died. May Allah forgive his sins.
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#48 [Permalink] Posted on 20th May 2024 12:35
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May he be held accountable for the bloodshed his country has caused in Syria.
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#49 [Permalink] Posted on 20th May 2024 18:09
Iran's true face will now be exposed. For all their rhetoric after the attack on Gaza, they are trying their hardest to ignore any references to Mossad regarding this helicopter crash. Acknowledging that would mean the world will look to them to respond in kind. Which of course those cowards will never do.
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#50 [Permalink] Posted on 20th May 2024 20:02
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Don't be silly, lasers from space.

How about a flying saucer shot it out of the sky?
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#51 [Permalink] Posted on 21st May 2024 12:58
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Not everything is a hoax or a lie that needs to be mocked :)

Amazing how reality is mocked and brushed away and lies are accepted as the whole truth.

We should all be cautious on what we accept as reality.

I'm not saying that the helicopter was shot out of the sky by a laser, someone else is. The tech does exist!

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The UK recently unveiled its new state of the art war weapon - The DragonFire Laser.

A directed energy weapon, it can take out a drone from miles away with pinpoint accuracy.

I also understand it works against helicopters well too…..

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#52 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd May 2024 10:37
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I don't think shooting anything from space is s tech we have. There's no evidence for it and the difficulty of doing that is immense. They might have laser guided missiles from space but by the time they reach the target the target would be long gone so it'd probably only work on stationary targets.
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#53 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd May 2024 11:17
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I agree. But space and sky (metaphor) are two different things :)

A plane was shot out of the sky (metaphor, i.e. it was up in the air) or a bird fell out of the sky

With regards to lasers, then yes, they would be closer to the target (at least those known to non-military persons). They can be deployed from the sky (via drone as mentioned by UK gov, by a plane or by land/sea)

Lasers have the potential to beam approx 10 miles (colours vary in distance and weather factors need to be considered) Green lasers go further than others.
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#54 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd May 2024 11:36
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The supplier of the helicopters can keep hidden modules in the control software of the helicopter, (a Virus). This can be invoked on demand and the helicopter can implode. A possibility.
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#55 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd May 2024 11:42
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Agree, although it's a conspiracy until proven as fact. Nowadays the timeline of proving conspiracies as fact has reduced dramatically :)

I recall an incident, (I think it was Chechans) where a bomb was planted under the seat of a stadium many many years ago and that same bomb was then detonated to kill their target after so many years. It was planned years in advance. (I'm pretty sure, that story wasn't changed)
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#56 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd May 2024 11:52
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The chechan bomb was planted inside pillars during construction.
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#57 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd May 2024 09:19
One military person on a Pakistani news channel commented that the scattering of the helicopter debris in the manner that it did could very easily have been due to a bomb inside the helicopter itself apart from a missile attack.
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#58 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd May 2024 16:31
Other reports say that he was burnt to death. Strange - Taqiyah perhaps (facepalm)
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“After our noon prayers, we departed towards the direction of Tabriz. The weather was clear, there was no weather condition to be worried about. After half an hour being in the air, prior to reaching the Sungun copper mine, there was a small patch of clouds; interviewer asks: “So there was no fog?” He replied, not at all. There was fog on the ground, but not in up the air where we were advancing with the helicopters. However in one small compacted area, there was a small patch of clouds above a cliff. In terms of height, this cloud was on the same height as our flight’s height.

It was there when the now-martyred helicopter pilot, who was also the commander of the fleet, that told the rest of the pilots to ascend above the clouds. We were the 3rd pilot, behind the president’s helicopter. We came above the clouds, we advanced for approximately 30 seconds. Our pilot suddenly realised that the main helicopter carrying the president is missing.

Interviewer asks: “You didn’t see the helicopter anymore after ascending?”
He replied, yes exactly, after ascending above the clouds, we didn’t see the main helicopter. The ascension itself didn’t feel difficult or hard. Sometimes, when we use the plane we feel turbulence but we didn’t feel anything at all inside the helicopter this time, when ascending. And after we ascended there were no other clouds.

Interviewer asks: “So beyond this, there were no weather forecasts mentioning any disturbances in the weather to make it unsafe?” He replied, no there wasn’t any.

Shortly after, we were able to see beneath us and there were no clouds anymore and we had reached the area of the copper mine. We realised however that our pilot is making an U-turn suddenly so I asked him why? He said that one of our helicopters is missing. We estimate that they made an emergency landing, because we also have no radio contact with it anymore. So I asked him when was the last time contact was made? The pilot answered: “A minute and 30 seconds ago, when the pilot told us to ascend above the clouds.”

Our pilot circled around the area a couple of times, but the area with the cloud patch was also invisible to us and it was too risky to enter that area. We failed several times to make any radio contact. We were forced to make a landing after 30 seconds at the Sungun copper mine to investigate.

During the flight, we had continuous cell phone calls with the passengers, including the bodyguard, Mr. Abdollahian, the governor of East-Azerbaijan and the Friday imam of Tabriz. However we tried calling all of them without luck.

After some tries, calling the cellphone of the captain accompanying the president, someone picked the phone. It was Ayatollah Hashem, the friday imam of Tabriz. He told us that I’m not feeling well. He didn’t tell us anything special. I asked him what exactly has happened? He told us that he didn’t know what has happened, when asked on his whereabouts, he said that he didn’t know. He only described what he could see, described to us what he saw, e.g. surrounded by trees. I asked him about the condition of the others, the Ayatollah replied that he’s alone and couldn’t see anyone else and he’s alone.

The copper mine had good facilities such as ambulances and the necessary vehicles. We formed a team to go and search for them. We requested for immediate emergency help as well.”

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How was Ayatollah Hashem, the Friday Imam of Tabriz able to make a call and say that he wasn't feeling well, but is later reported as having been burned so badly the bodies were all unidentifiable? How did that happen?

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#59 [Permalink] Posted on 15th June 2024 12:34
Saudi Arabia ends 80-year petrodollar deal with US for multi-currency sales.

What are the consequences?
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#60 [Permalink] Posted on 15th June 2024 12:59
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Not much.

All world oil sales still priced in dollars as are commodities.

That won't change.

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