How to Negotiate with Iran?

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#271 [Permalink] Posted on 24th June 2025 16:03

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"I'm not happy with Israel."
"I'm not sure Iran broke the ceasefire."
"Israel violated the ceasefire. As soon as I made the deal they grabbed the biggest load of bombs you've ever seen. I'm not happy with them. I'm really unhappy that Israel, is attacking for one rocket that was a mistake that didn't land. Israel has been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what the **** they are doing."

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#272 [Permalink] Posted on 24th June 2025 17:09

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First thing I’ve seen in awhile that has united his base is Trump talking trash about Israel on camera.
It’s just a fact that everyone worldwide has Israel-victim fatigue.

He should fire his advisors that made him believe otherwise. Everyone is tired of them

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#273 [Permalink] Posted on 24th June 2025 18:19

How Israel Failed in Iran

By Ori Goldberg | 24 Jun 2025

After 11 days of heavy bombing, what did Israel achieve in Iran? Prime Minister Netanyahu claimed success, but reality suggests otherwise.

⚽️ Israel’s Goals

Netanyahu set two main objectives:

Decapitate Iran’s nuclear programme

Trigger regime change

❓️ What happened?

✅ Nuclear Programme:

Iran moved key nuclear materials before strikes.

US bunker-busting bombs hit sites, but actual damage is unclear.

Iran’s nuclear capability remains intact.

✅ Regime Change:

Israel killed top Iranian military leaders, hoping to spark an uprising.

Instead, Iranians rallied around their government—even those who disliked it.

Bombing of sites like Evin Prison and the state broadcaster only strengthened the regime’s position.

✅ International Response:

The US bombed Iranian nuclear sites but avoided deeper involvement.

World leaders supported Israel’s right to defend itself—but rejected Israel’s demand that Iran halt uranium enrichment entirely.

Global stance remains: no nuclear weapons, but Iran can enrich uranium for peaceful purposes.

✅ Impact on Israel:

Iran’s missile strikes repeatedly broke through Israeli defenses.

Israel suffered heavy damage, high casualties, and economic paralysis.

Israel ran low on interceptor missiles with no quick resupply.

✅ Outcome:

Iran endured bombings but stood firm.

The world largely saw Iran as a victim of aggression.

Iran maintained its military capability and global legitimacy.

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#274 [Permalink] Posted on 24th June 2025 18:34

One of the Chieftain of Trumps MAGA movement. Slams Netanyahu. Accuses him of treacherous behaviour towards Trump.

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#275 [Permalink] Posted on 24th June 2025 19:39

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Don't think so, their nuclear sites are destroyed and now have no air defence. Its open skies for future attacks.

It's missiles were not very effective and lots of launchers and storage sites were destroyed.

To cap it all, iran remains heavily infiltrated by spies.

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#276 [Permalink] Posted on 24th June 2025 21:39

The 12-Day War: What Changed, What Didn't, and What Comes Next

By Iyad el-Baghdadi

The 12-day war between Israel (with U.S. backing) and Iran has come to an uneasy halt with a ceasefire that, for now, appears to be holding. In this piece, I aim to assess what has changed, what remains the same, and what may lie ahead.

Israel’s War Aims: Success or Failure?

Israel’s war aims, whether declared or implied, were ambitious:

End Iran’s nuclear program

Trigger regime change in Iran

Kill prospects of U.S.-Iran negotiations

Drag the U.S. deeper into direct confrontation

Distract from its Gaza campaign

Halt Europe’s push for a two-state solution (2SS)

Iran’s Nuclear Program

Israel did not succeed in ending Iran’s nuclear program. While facilities were damaged, the program was not destroyed. The U.S. gave early warnings, allowing Iran to safeguard both enriched uranium and crucial equipment. The consensus among experts is that the program may have been set back by months rather than years. Iran could resume pre-strike enrichment within six months and could break out to a nuclear weapon within a year if it chooses.

The most concerning development is that Iran suspended cooperation with the IAEA. Without inspectors on the ground, Iran’s nuclear efforts may now proceed in the shadows.

Diplomacy Deadlock

One Israeli goal did seem to succeed: killing the prospect of renewed negotiations. Trust between Iran and the West, already fragile, is now shattered. While there are reports that Iran might return to talks as part of the ceasefire deal, the seriousness of this is unclear.

U.S. Involvement: A Partial Win

Israel’s ideal outcome was for the U.S. to adopt a doctrine of open-ended backing for strikes against Iran. While the U.S. did join the fight, its escalation was limited and calculated. Trump, driven by ego rather than ideology, had no appetite for a wider war. Both sides walked away claiming victory, but the U.S. did not commit to a new posture that Israel may have wanted.

Moreover, hopes for a new Trump-led Iran deal or further Abraham Accords were likely buried by this war.

Distraction from Gaza and 2SS

Any distraction from Gaza was short-lived. European pressure has resumed, with Spain calling for suspension of the EU-Israel trade agreement and France pushing forward on 2SS. If anything, the war may have deepened Israel’s diplomatic isolation in Europe.

Regime Change and Iran’s Resilience

There was never much precedent for airstrikes alone to trigger regime collapse. The Iranian regime, unlike personality cults such as Saddam’s Iraq or North Korea, is deeply institutional, ideological, and built to weather disruption. Despite painful losses, including nearly 900 dead (200 military, 500 or more civilians), the regime retains control over both its security apparatus and narrative.

More likely than collapse is the strengthening of Iran’s hardliners. Reformists who championed diplomacy have been discredited, and hardliners now seem vindicated. Repression has already intensified under the guise of rooting out espionage.

A Harder Road Ahead

Has this war empowered Iran’s domestic opposition? Unlikely. The regime now finds it easier to brand dissidents as traitors aligned with external aggression. Instead of weakening the regime, external pressure may have hardened it and delayed the reform many hope for.

Israel’s Next Moves

For Israel, this war is not over; it is just a chapter. As I have argued before, Israel’s structure of power and politics ensures continued cycles of war. Netanyahu emerges more secure politically, with broad domestic support for the war.

The Bigger Picture

Both Iran’s theocracy and Israel’s apartheid regime inflict trauma across the region. The idea that liberation can come via foreign-imposed regime change is a dangerous illusion. True safety and freedom can only come through grassroots global systems change.

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#277 [Permalink] Posted on 25th June 2025 17:13

Iran left it too late, they thought their missiles would be of benefit and neglected procuring 4.5 gen fighters, they could have bought the jc10 from china and even 50 of these would have complicated israeli efforts from approaching the iranian border.

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#278 [Permalink] Posted on 25th June 2025 19:40

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Better late than never. And better than the so called Muslim nations

Israel got a taste of their own rubble! Tel Aviv has been hit, badly. Maybe not in comparison to Gaza, but it is what it is.

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#279 [Permalink] Posted on 25th June 2025 20:01

Trump Israel got hit really hard with Ballistic missiles.

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#280 [Permalink] Posted on 25th June 2025 20:26

Meanwhile the resistance continue their operations in GAZA, and have been regularly attacking the occupation forces.

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#281 [Permalink] Posted on 26th June 2025 09:59

The only weapons that Iran needs to acquire now and in quick time are the nukes. Bribe the Pakistani generals with dollars if they have to get them. These generals will sell any and everything for the right price.

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#282 [Permalink] Posted on 29th June 2025 16:27

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🇮🇱🇮🇷 Israeli Channel 13 reports, 'There are many casualties in army bases and strategic facilities due to Iranian missiles that we have not discussed until today

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#283 [Permalink] Posted on 29th June 2025 18:07

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Lol. When we say there was extensive damage, we get called names by the trolls.

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#284 [Permalink] Posted on 30th June 2025 09:32

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According to Grok, no military personal included in numbers. Just like how the hostages kidnapped were IDF soldiers but portrayed as civilian hostages for sympathy and excuse to attack!

These numbers don't include the suicides and ptsd's

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BREAKING: The Israeli website "Hess" has allegedly been hacked and has revealed the deaths of the following individuals:

6 senior military generals
32 Mossad officers
78 Shin Bet officers
27 naval officers
198 air force officers
462 soldiers
423 civilians
11 nuclear scientists

More than 1228 Israeli terrorists were killed.

Bloomberg’s has estimated Israel’s damage and compensation claims at $30 billion.

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How true will these claims end up being?

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#285 [Permalink] Posted on 30th June 2025 18:02

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Fake news.

You really should wait some time before posting.

There is no zionist website called hess news and the figures refer to iranian casualties.

You really need to publish reliable sources n not rely on fake news on social media.

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