On Hazrat Worship

 I see no use of speaking of sufism when no one gets the basics right  ie: quitting sins by having their prayers sorted which is the minimum requirement of being a MUSLIM. We somehow feel that we can read some high level books and build our jazba to be like these sufis when ur not even fulfilling the basicness of a muslim. I dont see how this makes sense? Why do we keep our senses out in Islam??? For duniya, we  know we can't read doctors books coz we need to go through formal rigorous trainings to even read so we can understand the terms and context used in the book.. How in Good Lord can we think of reading such books when we dont have fundamental basics right? I honestly don't understand this bit..

We live in a democracy so a person has the right to belong to DeoBand or NaqshBand or any other Band they wish to belong to but my question still remains.

Can you give me examples from the lives of the Sahabah who practised Tasawuff the way it is done, today?

Deo is a Hindu gods name and in their fairytale, they kept this deo god locked/closed in a certain place which later got to be called DeoBandh.. Naqsh means Inscription, Bandh means Fixed/Closed.. They attributed this title to the originator of this Silsila since He inscribed Allah swt's name in people's hearts and fixed their hearts with this Inscription where they didn believe any ghair.. Not that u asked for a description or explanation but just saying.. 

Well, I dunno what other "band's" are out there which are Islamic and not sure if ur referring the Tassawuf thing to me since u addressed it to the sufiya-e-kiraam.. I shall wait for their answer as well coz I have my questions un-answered too.. 

No!

Deo in Farsi means Ghost so the name comes from someone who captured a Jinn/Ghost and that is the significance of the name. Bandh is also persian so you cannot translate the first half in Sansikirit and second half in Persian, the whole name is historically Persian.

Just Ahmedabad in Gujarat is obviously not a Hindi name but Hindus call it "Amdavad"

You are referring to the Hindu name "Dev Vrind" which is a recent invention by BJP and it does mean 33 dieties of Hindu'ism

www.indiatoday.in/india/story/uttar-pradesh-deoband-dev-v...

The original word is Naqshband without the "h" at the end of the word.

rch.ac.ir/article/Details?id=12046

Just like "Deo" is a Persian word and not Sanskirit

So you are wrong on multiple counts but keep on chirping.

 I did say fairytale.. And most Hindu God's (33 Million of them) are Evil Jinns if u didn already know..

And I love chirping :D

You must be a politician :lol because you are a Master of changing subjects. Everytime your misinformation is caught out you change topics.

I was discussing Tasawuff from the Salaf and you changed topics, then stated that Deo is a Hindi word which it isn't so you changed topic to say that most Hindu gods are Jinns. This is also not true because Hindu'ism is based on Mythology (so may be based on nothing but fiction). Neverthless there is ample theory that Brahman is actually a corruption of Ibraheem (AS) i.e. over time people took Ibraheem (AS) to be a diety and then it got corrupted and Ibraheem (AS) was not a Jinn! It is "a theory" not a fact!

Neverthless, try sticking to the subject of Tasawuff.

P.S: I was joking about the "Band" and everybody else got the joke but since you didn't I am spelling it out for you.

P.P.S: Hazrat worship is also not a literal term i.e. a Hazrat sitting on a chair and people worshipping him, just wanted to point it out before you change directions again.

Phew, I was hoping a politician could notice me(as the saying goes that a politician recognises another) not sure what misinformation you've caught, lol.. The Hindu God's are mostly Evil Jinns(interpreted in a muslim context without its mythical tag, you can do a whole read up on how their 33 Million God's came to be) which is an actual fact.. And they(The Hindus) belive deo to be their God regardless of the words origins.. Whether the Persians changed the name or not, this is what it's popularly called and I dont care a two hoots of who called or named it since it's a fairytale for crying out loud.. Take a chill pill with the links yo, you win if that's what u want.. 

whats the full story on the brahman, did you get that part from Dr Israr Ahmed Rah lecture and thanks for changing the direction and intriguing us.. We need more of this "Theory"

P.P.P.S:  you got the spelling wrong buddy, its Bandh, with an 'H' and not band like a group of musicians for egs.. In English, the word "Band" is pronounced with a strong D consonant phenome sound at the end whether it's in received pronunciation or general American accent.. Its not with a Dh sound.. Only when you add it with an "H" does the letter then get phonetically pronounced with a Dh sound.. I was really hoping that I was wrong though :)

P.P.P.P.S: Al-Hamdulillah , my eyes are saved from it's actual literal witnessing.. Care to enlighten us if ur not too bothered with changing directions already?

P.P.P.P.P.S: editing your previous posts on questions posed is a great way to comeback and appear more legit and is a really cool way of deceiving too. You learn so much everyday on how people seem to win(which is not the intention here) with supposed facts and links and change their previous posts to appear more legit.. Oh well! :)

Well I was trying to be extra kind with my fellow chirper.. :) Anyway, I would prefer it be answered as well for who its posed to. 

This confuses me even further. In every branch of Islam we recommend to go back to the actions of Khairul-Quroon and we try to match step-by-step what the Sahaba (RA), Taba'een (RA) and Taba-Tab'een (RA) did. Once we know that their Tasawuff was not what we are practising today then WHY do we insist on practising our version of Tassawuff knowing full well that it was not practised by them?

Surely, the Khair and the Barakah is in what they practised and not what we deem to be effective (by our experience).

There is not an iota of doubt that majority of Tasswuff (today) is based on rituals which was picked by Persian/Turk/Transoxianan influence upon us (subcontinent Muslims) and the movement of Deoband is to purify it and take it back to the Salaf so we are we carrying on with foreign Tasawuff and its rituals, why not take it back to the Tasawuff of the Sahaba.

“Bayt” is just one aspect of today’s Tasawuff, the entire deal is alien to the Islam of Sahaba. It is more Persian/Turk/Transoxianan then Arab, in fact it Tasawuff hardly exists amongst Arabs of today (at all). And you cannot claim that majority of the Arabs are misguided and light of Islam shines upon Indian (origin) Muslims.

I asked this question on Sunniforum and a dear friend replied that Imam Abu Haneefa (RA) remained in the company of Imam Jafar Sadiq (RA) for 40 years etc. This does not mean that he was Bay’t to him? What was the daily Dhikr? What was happening? We know the smallest aspects of the life of Imam Abu Haneefa (RA) so how can his Tasawuff remain hidden from us?