Saudi crown prince: Israelis have right to their own land

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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 5th April 2018 17:40

very sad to read these posts. makes you give up any hope. two wrongs dont make a right but only way i can see this ending is either through violent demos/civil unrest or if enough muslims support groups who are extreme bt share a common hatred for aposate regimes like AQ.
also regarding this love of haramain its a indo pak obession. only a fool hides behins that statement to justify not criticing the ale salool. if i was given a straight choice between going haramain every year for live witu vip treatment but ale salool remain in power or never going again but the blessed land being ruled by blessed people il choose the later. i think rasoolullah ( saw) is more troubled by whats happening in that blessed land than if someone doesnt go yearly.

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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 5th April 2018 18:12

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I was thinking the same. Instead of remaining silent to see the injustice without even voicing against it, it is a lot better to give up the opportunity to visit the holy places. Normally holy places are visited out of love for Allah. I don't see the point of visiting haramain as excuse to remain silent against injustice. Will Allah really love us for this? Allahu alam

I have never understood this wisdom of ulema and I don't think I will ever.

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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 5th April 2018 18:48

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its an indopak problem. just silly slogans they use. we live makkah we love madinah. yet thse guys never once talk about aqsa, if you spent ur entire life listening to asian scholars ud think islam only had 2 holy sites. plus they given by going there one is a true aashiq. loving the haramain is more than lip service. show your love of the haramain by doing what would make the master of madinah rasoolullah (saw)

happy. sahaba loved him way more than we ever could yet most aint even buried there. many CHOSE to leave madinah and go join expeditions in shaam. if im not mistaken abubakr رضي الله عنه even tried convincing bilal رضي الله عنه to stay in madinah but he said I want to go fight and gain shahadah. we are bigger lovers of rasoolullahرضي الله عنه than bilal رضي الله عنه?

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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 5th April 2018 20:17

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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 7th April 2018 14:42

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I'm talking about princeS, it's not just a matter of mbs or saudi, but an entire mafia of khaleeji 'princes' brought up culturally in the west and destroying us from within.

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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 7th April 2018 20:07

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Nothing new and has been happening for a long time. Nothing has changed there.

Millions of petro dollars have been spent to fund Darul-ulooms and Islamic organisations around the world and to stand an Army of defenders of Saudi regime. This army of willing and unconscious Saudi supporters massively exaggerate Hajj organisation and tremendously downgrade open, vile and flagrant violations of Islam and human rights.

Which Ulama and which Masjid is talking about Card games and cinemas in Saudi Arabia? Here is the (Ex) Imam of Haram dealing cards, which Maulana has spoken about this?

www.thenews.com.pk/latest/301362-saudi-arabia-hosts-first...

This person led Salah at the House of Allah!

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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 7th April 2018 22:32

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Yes we need to be careful with regards to the purpose of introducing these things and what they can lead to. For e.g. nothing is wrong with just having a cinema per se, but as we have seen they are showing Hollywood movies which is obviously wrong.

To be fair to the Imam, even on askimam there is a fatwa that allows playing cards if it does not lead to leaving out our obligations. The arguments used against cards can be used against a lot of activities which we don’t object to. The other issue would be that playing cards in a small group may be different than a national tournament and other possible wrongs within such a tournament.

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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 7th April 2018 23:18

On the issue of Palestine and Israel, many non Muslims have no idea of the recent history behind this conflict and automatically assume Israel existed from biblical days. If many of them knew when Israel was created they would be shocked. At local levels there needs to be more education of world history over the last century.

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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 9th April 2018 13:16

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Once again you shown the tendency to mix Apples and oranges, shown lack of ability to perform analysis and then jumped to conclusions.

The issue is with regards to Saudi Arabia so don’t take opinions from ASKIMAM (which you have misunderstood anyways) and apply to Saudi Arabia.

The scholars of “Saudi Arabia” have been unanimous in their condemnation of playing cards (without gambling or wagers).

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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 9th April 2018 20:34

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lol come on you know better than to take saudi scholars fatwas seriously. week before MbS lifted ban on women driving they were still saying its right and they shouldnt be allowed to drive but the day he announced they were all praising him and saying its the right move. now with cinemas were is the condemnation from the very same scholars who used to talk against them. whether anyone wants to accept it or not but Allah, Rasoolulllah (saw)

and Quran are not the ultimate autority in that country its the royal family. they come before Quran and Sunnah, if saudi goes ahead and makes that beach resort in jeddah were women can were bikinis and alcohol will be served i bet you right now today saudi scholars will find some obscure reasoning to justify it.

but you are right about the rest. what mbs is doing and saying its not nothing new, abdollar and fassad before him were same and zio supporters only difference now is saudi doesnt even try hide what backstabbing treacherous slime they are.

ps slightly off topic why aint the muslims outraged with this new umrah tax, i wanted to go this ramadan again but i aint paying 2000 riyals tax so that swine can go buy more di vinci paintings. what zulm is this charging returning visotors to the haramain 2000 riyals. i think il go aqsa instead this year inshAllah. we should boycott haj and umrah till they come to their senses

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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 9th April 2018 21:03

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it's not the israelis who need their own land. they already have their own land. the land that they stole from the palestinians.

it's the palestinians who need their own land. the land that was stolen from them. instead they 'live' like animals within a cage under the control of the zionists. under occupation.

but i can understand why the saudis would be sympathetic to the israelis. the saudis themselves stole control of the hijaz and renamed it saudi arabia, along with the help of the british. just like the zionists did with palestine.

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