What does Islam say about Near Death Experiences?

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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 31st August 2018 15:36

The most authentic narration on one who was in the Pangs of Death.

Call it near death experience if you wish as it is the events just before death.
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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 31st August 2018 15:47

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Hi Brother,

I am inclined to say, both.

Based on the revelations here,
www.near-death.com/science/research/religion.html

This is what it says ...

"God does not care which religion is best. God does not care what religion people practice. They are all a blooming facet of the whole. All religions refer to the same God."

... which would imply that religious scriptures are to be treated as such.

At the same time however, the site also says,

"We have no right to criticize any church or religion in any way. They are all precious in God's sight."

... which implies that the Quran be treated in as much a source of spiritual guidance as any other scripture.

I hope that answers your question.

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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 31st August 2018 15:53

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God doesn't care about religion so I don't see any point affiliating myself to any religion. And no, I am not a Christian; but rather a person in search of the truth, as implied by my name.

I see the whole of humanity as my extended family. So I hope that answers the other question.

The site isn't Christian in nature. It is a site based on spiritual experiences. There is no evangelical stuff in there. In fact, there are many criticisms about Christianity itself all over the site.

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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 31st August 2018 15:53

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Will God care to listen if an idol is being asked for Mercy?

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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 31st August 2018 16:00

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God doesn't care about religion so I don't see any point affiliating myself to any religion

This makes it very clear that you are not seeking the truth as your name suggests, rather you are in affiliation with your desires. Your Desires is your Lord

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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 31st August 2018 16:37

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... which implies that the Quran be treated in as much a source of spiritual guidance as any other scripture.

Allah says in the Quran:

"And whoever desires other than Islam as religion - never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers." [3:85]

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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 31st August 2018 20:10

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Before talking about DEATH or NEAR DEATH,let us talk about LIFE first by trying to answer a few questions :

1. Why we are here on this planet earth ? Is there any purpose in it or is it only a pleasure trip into existence ?

2. Was our creator under any compulsion to create us in such circumstances ? Could He not create us in an environment He loved most ? Could He not create us in a way so that we were bound to love each other ? Had He wanted that,could He not create a world without hatred,without crimes,without torture,loot and killings ? Without wars,disasters,disease,misery,ageing and even death itself ? Did it ever cross your mind that it could ALL BE A TEST TO JUDGE US IF WE BEHAVE RIGHTLY OR WRONGLY ?

3. If there was a purpose in creating us, then obviously our life after death should reflect that purpose too, otherwise it would look like a futile exercise. If we have fulfilled the objectives of our creation our life after death should be a reflection of that and rewarded,otherwise not. It is simple common sense

4. Life after death itself should carry a meaning,just like life before death should...after all why should we LIVE after we die ?, we could just perish into nothingness.. all finished...accepting that we keep living after we die also put some responsibility on us to find a reason for our further existence.Could that reason be ‘reward’ and ‘punishment’ ? Do you think the HITLERS of this present life should go unpunished even in the next life ?

5. God does not care about religion,fine..tell me what does he care about then ? Religion means ‘a divinely guided way of life’. We see that here in this world a manufacturer gives a manual along with the product he sells;Our creator who obviously took care of providing us with oxygen, water,abundant resources of food and so many other things simply forgot to tell us how to live our lives ? How to use this machine called body, how to use that super computer called brain ? He keep telling us to love each other while we are ‘near death’ but did not bother to tell us how to live positively here while we were very much alive and healthy ?,did not care to give us any guidelines ? Gave us a machine without manual to learn how to operate it ?

Come on Truth seeker,you are ignoring spiritual ‘realities’ for the sake of spiritual ‘fantasies’ :)

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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 31st August 2018 21:00

its obvious that he didnt come here to seek the truth. he came here to preach his falsehood. and his scripture is an 'ancient' website

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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 1st September 2018 02:48

⚰ *مرنے کے بعد ہمارے ساتھ کیا ہوگا؟*

🎙 واعظ: حضرت مولانا فیصل حیات صاحب دامت برکاتہم

✒ کائنات میں چلنے والے دو نظام
١۔ ظاہر کا نظام
٢۔ غیب کا نظام

✒ جیسے تکلیف، درد، یاداشت، آکسیجن سب کا وجود ہے لیکن ہم اسکو دیکھ نہیں سکتے۔

✒ تین اور چار سمتی تخلیقات کا فرق

✒ سنگل یا ڈبل کومہ سے لوٹنے والے افراد کے احوال پر مبنی ایک بین الاقوامی کتاب کا تذکرہ

✒ روح اور جسم کے تعلق سے متعلق ایک رسالہ "دنیا کے اُس پار"

✒ یہ رسالہ پاکستان کے ایک بڑے ڈاکٹر کے استفتا پر حضرت مفتی تقی عثمانی صاحب دامت برکاتہم نے نوے کی دہائی میں تصنیف کیا، یہ ڈاکٹر ڈبل نمونیہ کا شکار ہوگئے تھے اور موت کی تصدیق ہوچکی تھی اس وقت تک ایم آر آئی کی سہولت نہیں تھی، تاہم کچھ ہی دیر بعد انکی دل کی دھڑکن شروع ہوگئی۔

✒ موت کے بعد انسان تین سمتی مادے سے آزاد ہوجاتا ہے۔

✒ پانچ دن سرد خانے میں رہ کر آنے والے ایک فوجی کی آپ بیتی

✒ جب مومن کو قبر میں دفن کردیاجاتا ہے تو اسکو سامنے غروبِ آفتاب کا وقت پیش کیا جاتا ہے، اسکے بعد نمازی شخص کے حالات الگ ہوتے اور غیر نمازی شخص کے حالات الگ۔

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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 1st September 2018 08:33

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As per what I understand, faith appears more important than whether you worship an idol or the sky or anything else.

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You are right. Wrong choice of words.
I should rephrase it.
I meant that from what I have read across the site that God isn't particular about religion. He doesn't discredit them entirely, but at the same time isn't rigid about faith. It is in context rather than independent from the subject of the post.

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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 1st September 2018 08:40

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Hi Brother,

You are absolutely right.
It is actually interesting and surprising to me that this contradiction exists, which is one of the reasons I started this thread.
You see, every religion has verses claiming to be the right path. And indeed, they certainly provide a lot of advice on how to live your life, which justifies this claim in some way.
But then, there is this NDE paradox, where all religious verses from all religions regarding being the 'correct faith' are overruled, apparently by God/Allah himself.

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#27 [Permalink] Posted on 1st September 2018 09:04

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Hi Brother,

Let me answer your points, one by one.

I found possible answers to these by looking into the NDE of a guy named Howard Storm.

1. Why we are here on this planet earth ? Is there any purpose in it or is it only a pleasure trip into existence ?
~ We were created as part of God's plan to 'express his creativity', if you want to put it that way. We were apparently spiritual beings whose purpose was to be with God forever, as companions/co-creators of the universe.
~ In one of his videos, he asked the same question and was told ... " The world [maybe this implies the universe in a larger sense] is like a garden and you were created to bloom in that garden ... "

2. Was our creator under any compulsion to create us in such circumstances ? Could He not create us in an environment He loved most ? Could He not create us in a way so that we were bound to love each other ? Had He wanted that,could He not create a world without hatred,without crimes,without torture,loot and killings ? Without wars,disasters,disease,misery,ageing and even death itself ? Did it ever cross your mind that it could ALL BE A TEST TO JUDGE US IF WE BEHAVE RIGHTLY OR WRONGLY ?

~ Part of your answer is in the first point.
~ This is something I came across by studying the website at large, with the experiences/revelations of Edgar Cayce in particular. Edgar Cayce answers this question in his explanation about how the present world came about. We were never really designed for the earthly worlds. But as spiritual beings, were given free will to choose our own destiny, even if it meant that we broke the bounds of the spiritual and entered the earthly realms. The 'evils' we are experiencing today are of a human origin, which in turn is of an animal origin, because we are a mix of the animal and spirit.
You see, the human body is that of an animal, while our spirit is not of this earth. The animal cares about nothing less than selfish survival to a large extent, while the spirit asks us to go beyond these wild instincts. And so, we have this struggle going on within us, to cave to the animal desires, but are held back by the spirit. All of the 'evils' of the world are really just animalistic behavior and one can observe it at any time by turning on the Discovery Channel or National Geographic.
Here is the link: www.near-death.com/paranormal/edgar-cayce/human-origins.html

3. I answered this question in the previous two points.

4. Life after death itself should carry a meaning,just like life before death should...after all why should we LIVE after we die ?, we could just perish into nothingness.. all finished...accepting that we keep living after we die also put some responsibility on us to find a reason for our further existence.Could that reason be ‘reward’ and ‘punishment’ ? Do you think the HITLERS of this present life should go unpunished even in the next life ?
www.near-death.com/science/research/life.html

5. God does not care about religion,fine..tell me what does he care about then ? Religion means ‘a divinely guided way of life’. We see that here in this world a manufacturer gives a manual along with the product he sells;Our creator who obviously took care of providing us with oxygen, water,abundant resources of food and so many other things simply forgot to tell us how to live our lives ? How to use this machine called body, how to use that super computer called brain ? He keep telling us to love each other while we are ‘near death’ but did not bother to tell us how to live positively here while we were very much alive and healthy ?,did not care to give us any guidelines ? Gave us a machine without manual to learn how to operate it ?
~ What I meant by 'God doesn't care about religion', was that he wasn't particular about them, but values them all equally.
The true purpose of religion, if you want to call it that, is to simply give us 'suggestions' on how to live your life. To 'dictate' what we do in life is against the principle of 'free will' given to all of us.
If you want to truly live a 'Godly' life, if you want to call it that, you will benefit from living a religious way of life, and that is also something which is given on the site.
Apparently, the only hard and fast rule is the golden rule of "Do unto others as you would want them to do to you ... " ...
Likewise, our 'instruction manuals', are in this context are apparently to be found in all religions. It's not really 'codified' into one text but present all throughout in every scripture.

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#28 [Permalink] Posted on 1st September 2018 09:08

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If you observe all my posts, you will see that there is really not much of a 'preaching' that I am doing here.
I am only coming up with certain 'paradoxes' about these strange events and Islam, and trying to make sense of it.

You could probably say that. The site needs a bit of updating.

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#30 [Permalink] Posted on 1st September 2018 16:42

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Have you read any religious scripture? And were you born into a Christian family?

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