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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 14th November 2018 16:33

Importance of Digital and Modern Dawah Platforms along with Traditional Institutions of Deen

I am currently too busy to write detailed posts. However, I have recently read the previous pages of the thread about Irtidad in India and after reading that thread I have some thoughts to share.

Some people think that only dawah through tabligh, madaris khanqah is enough. However, I differ from them in this approach.

First of all Tablighi Jamaat is just a bandage over minor wounds and it is not the complete package for curing disease. It only sets the mood. It creates an environment of fadhail and an urge for practicing deen. That is a good thing but that is not enough.

Equally important is getting the answers to emerging questions and removal of doubts. TJ is not good enough to do it because it is not it's specialty. Here online and offline sources can be helpful if people of authentic knowledge make the right moves.

When I went to my first chillah, I had no clue of taqlid, madhabs etc. I asked some questions from our Alim ameer in my first tashkeel but we didn't have the time for detailed discussions. After returning, it is because of tabligh that I came to know that ulema of which maslak are to be listened to. I asked a question about taqleed and Imam Abu Hanifa Rh in sunniforum.com, however some brother there was being sarcastic and defensive without a reason.

Finally, it was Shaykh Mumtaz ul Haq at "youtube" who answered many of my questions. Later on, I came to know more about Islam after reading books, sitting with local ulema and using muftisays. So both offline and online platforms can't be ignored.

So Tabligh and Tazkiya uplifts the iman and cures spiritual illness while we also need literature, bayans and forums with correct understanding and discussion with educated and honest Muslims to clear doubts in our minds.

We can't undermine or deny the importance of any institution of deen and any methodology as long as it doesn't confront the limits set by Shariah.

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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 15th November 2018 05:57

(1) I felt honoured when brother sipra created this thread. In the meanwhile we have had a chat in other thread and it turned out that we have different approaches towards the problems of Muslim Ummah today. Thus the natural course of action is that we shall go our own ways.

(2) My personal approach is academic one - to present the case of Muslim Ummah to the west at global level as an academic issue. My assertion is that the west still occupied most of our life space, even in our own home. I invite the youngsters to be part of this task in their own way and with their own resources and capabilities.

(3) In above post brother sipra is talking about Islamic education of Muslims. This is a valid problem and it should be paid due attention. I have not read all the posts in that thread about conversions of some Muslims in India to Hinduism. Thus it is difficult for me to comment on the contents of that thread. With that kind of limitation I still have a few things to add to what I wrote on that thread.

(4) Educating Muslims on Islam is not at the core of the problem - at least the Irtidad that took place immediately. It is merely a problem of the majority community aggression. That is how it should be looked at.

(5) Education is solution to the problem of ignorance. That problem is still there among Muslims of India but the Irtidad is a political problem and has to be solved that way.

(6) Commercial Break for a Joke : A doctor could not treat the common cold of a patient. Doctor told tha patient to go and take a hot bath and then stand bare body in the balcony, in the cold wind. "But I shall get a pneumonia that way", the patient protested. "That I can treat", said the doctor.

(7) My personal request to everybody - please do not make every problem of Muslims as a problem of distance from Islam - Deen Se Doori. Some of the problems are because of our distance from the world - Duniya se Doori. If you leave the worldly affairs to the no-Muslims then this will create real serious problems for you and it already has.

(8) Please solve those problems.

(9) "But we have decided to specialize in taking care of the Theology issues", the Deeni contingent might complain. This protest is well taken. I try to take care of my normal job duties and I spend some time on my blogs, Facebook and MS and that is about all that I can do. Similarly taking care of Madarsa duties is difficult enough. Most of the Deeni Madaris people will not be left with any more energy to spare. I suppose they should be spared.

(10) But let us not forget that when Ummah is passing through bad worldly times then it is again our duty to pay attention to those problems. The worldly problems will not be solved by paying normal attention or even extra attention to Deeni problems. these are two different classes. If you have cold then try to cure it and not pneumonia.

(11) And in fact even on the Deeni front I have this complain that neither the Barelwis nor the Salafis have been dealt with decisively. Let alone the Shias. And all of them continue to do enormous amount of damage to at least the unity of the Ummah.

(12) One example of this was the debacle of the debate at SF and Islamic Awakening with the Salafis.

(13) One intervention on the worldly front, the Lal Masjid episode, was a complete tragedy.

(14) Then there is this Salafi oriented or Khawarij oriented or the lone wolf kind of attrition with the west. We simply have developed no narrative at all about these things. As if we are not affected at all by these things.

(15) Of course in India the Jami-at-e-Ulema-e-Hind does some semi-political work but from the point of view of the needs of the times it is not merely meager and to little but actually pathetic. Jamiat does not contest elections, Maulana Badruddin Ajmal does and so does Maulana Asrarul Haq Qasmi and all this some total is just pittance.

(16) Just look at how easily Pir Zulfiqar Ahmed Naqshbandi was packed back by Burma when he landed there. That is our real worth in today's environment. Please also do not forget how quickly we tried to disown Pir Sahab I view of his little failings in spite of the fact that his name did not occur in any Fatwa. The additional effect of it has been the silence of Maulana Tariq Jameel Sahab DB.

(17) Come on guys...please do not give up. Whether we see clear signs of success or not I assure you that we are already of the path of success already. Remember when the wheel starts rolling visibly in favour of the Ummah of Rasoolallah SAW then our task will be over.

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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 20th December 2018 04:38

Good observations @Maripat.

1. Worldly affairs are not separate from deeni affairs. Islam is neither just a religion with just some set of customs and rituals nor it is just a theoretical concept. It's a complete and practical way of life. So worldly affairs are not separate to deeni affairs. In fact worldly affairs are a part of Islam itself.

2. Without political power, Muslims can't be acknowledged as "human beings" let alone as noble people of dignity whose opinion has any weight in the eyes of the world. This is a lawless world and here might is right. Among the nations of the world, we can't be recognized as an ummah who contributes for world peace and is even alive (in any sense) unless and until we don't have political power (i.e. only true and final khilafah). Without khilafah we are the same as were Red Indians in the eyes of this world.

3. For establishing khilafah, we don't need noble prize winners but we need men of character and courage lead by a leader of wisdom, courage, honesty and piety. Before correcting the outward of our reality, we need to correct our inner reality. Before gathering resources, we need to have clarity of thought and confidence in amaal and the help of Allah through the unseen world. Without clarity of thought and mature souls, resources in our hands will be like children having guns in their hands or monkeys having blades in their hands. We will be another United States of America which wreaks havoc in the world through her resources and is doing the bidding of Satan and Zionists.

4. Without a home we can't start a business and we can't have any worth in the eyes of the inhabitants of this city. We need a home first. Without a base, we (the traditional Muslims) will not be taken seriously and our wisdom and hikmah and words and pledges and oaths and actions and protests and screams and whining and slogans and warnings and crying will have no effect on this world. This is akin to a situation that Prophet Muhammad SAWS and his companions are in Makkah but they are communicating with Rome and Persia and telling them to submit or else we are coming. Or if we want an example from the modern times then it is akin to a lad who has barely passed tenth grade and wants to write books to educate others about a subject he has informally gained some information about but is not a recognized authority in that field. No sir! This is not the case and no serious and sane person will take that lad seriously. No one pays heed to the weak. First training in Makkah, then a state in Madinah and then the expansion of the Islamic revolution, through the dawah of character, speech, pen and sword. Muslims were taken seriously and were noticed by the world after the riyasat of madinah and then after the successful conquest of Makkah and victory of Tabooq. Sahaba RA were ranked by the khulafa by the ghazwat they fought. Fighting in Islam is not a means of quenching lust for blood, fame or wealth. Fighting(Jihad) in Islam is a means of uplifting the character of a person and to upgrade the level of ishq for Allah and His deen. It is the highest form of Tazkiya and Spiritual enrichment. Battlefield is the best Khanqah and best Madrassah where a momin's status increases at lightning speed in the eyes of Allah.

5. Indians(Hindu Indians) are recognized in the world because they have a strong state which represents their civilization. Chinese are recognized in this world because they have a strong core state which represents their civilization. Russians are recognized in this world because they have a strong core state which represents their version of Christianity and civilization in this world. Westerners are recognized in this world because from the last 200 or so years, super powers and major world powers have been emerging from their side.

6. Europe was able to emerge because Muslims fell asleep and started to fight with each other. If Muslims would have remained awake, no other civilization could have been able to emerge and defeat Muslims and today the world would have been a different place. The kuffar are not sleeping and our so called worldly progress (alone) will give us no benefit unless and until we don't fight for establishing the final and global khilafah.

7. It is the duty of a leader and a state to appoint it's citizens to the task according to each citizen's capability and reach. In this manner right person is chosen and appointed for the right task which produces reliable and fruitful results. Without a good leader and a state, everyone's effort will be divided, unorganized, undisciplined and finally without any concrete and real results. We need a leader and such a state badly. This is why I look forward to the army of khorasan and Imam Mahdi (the leader).

8. For us are one of the two things to do. Migrate if we can. Or else, do dawah, tazkiyah, ilm, be patient and instruct others to be patient and gain enough spiritual strength which could enable us to bear hardships and make us steadfast in containing and preserving our iman till death, social welfare of the people and become good practicing Muslims and help the caravan in any manner possible.

Ye dunia bari zalim hai. Taqat bina chaarah nahin piyaarey.

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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 20th December 2018 06:01

We need preachers like this.

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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 20th December 2018 11:30

lol i dont see why people are making this into a long discussion. answer is simple. two things are missing

1) on an individual level we need to do our islah and revive the sunnah in our lives in ALL aspects.

2) as a collective unite and dare i say, once again carry out Jihad as mentioned in Quran and Hadith.

till then we will always be bottom of the pile as individuals and as an ummah

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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 20th December 2018 12:15

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Anyone who thinks it's acceptable to give a talk in the presence of a group of non-mahram women can never be considered as a reliable preacher.

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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 20th December 2018 13:01

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Well there are various aspects of seeing an issue. I was not focusing on the shari' aspect of this preacher but the way he presented his case and answered the questions with the level of rationalism and logic is applaudable.

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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd December 2018 05:58

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As salam alaykum:

Respected Sir,

What is your opinion about a preacher addressing a mixed gathering?

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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd December 2018 08:24

Assalamua'laikum

I have just gone through the overview of thread as the topic is of my interests. I would like to draw both intellectuals, brother SipraOmer & brother Maripat (hope I spelled them right) to the fact that, there is already lot of discussion and debate on what is to be done and what not to be done, what we actually need right now is plan of action (I will be discussing this further below)

Other day I was listening to one lecture and the speaker said, the authors these days write book on "Life of 100 richest people" and sells to everyone. Author mints money as everyone want to become rich, but non of the buyer actually becomes rich. Because, if it was so easy to become rich, you wouldn't write book on it in the first place. The moral of this lecture was, there is no use in discussion, content or process. We need plan of action to achieve something in life.

What is Plan of Action ?

Plan of action is taking a piece of paper and sitting down to discuss, how to achieve the task. For example in this case, how to solve the problems of the Muslims ?

I believe discussing about how muslims failed or how other societies prospered is of no use. Discussions and Meetings are totally unproductive as per ISO classification of business. What is considered productive is the act which earns you real money in Business. In our case, I would say the act which really brings our Ummah out of this turmoil.

Hence, in my humble opinion which may not weigh in the eyes of experienced brothers here. I personally feel, it would be really good if we start focusing on building solutions to real issues. Like instead of discussing about educating muslims, how about we really plan something which will educate them. Instead of discussing unemployment of Muslims, how about we plan something to eradicate unemployment from our society. Instead of discussing backwardness of Muslims, how about we plan about empowering them ?

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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd December 2018 09:08

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Every battle is won (or lost) first in the minds and then on the ground.Let us first KNOW how to win,and InshaAllah we will win.

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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd December 2018 10:26

السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته

Our leader, The Messenger of Allah (saw)

already told us that we will be huge in numbers, but we will be useless because of our love for this world and our fear of death. There was a time when we had neither of the aforementioned and that was the time when we were leaders in this world and the world benefited from us. Today we are a laughing stock and ridiculed. We can't even benefit each other anymore never mind the rest of the world. Millions of our brothers and sisters and children are being forced into concentration camps in China solely because they are Muslims. Millions of our brothers and sisters and children have been slaughtered, dismembered, displaced, impoverished in the Arab lands by the West under the guise of the war on terrorism. Hundreds of thousands of Rohingya are displaced through terror and murder and left without a land. Our brothers, sisters, and children are still being slaughtered in Palestine after all these years and despite our numbers, our intelligence, and our wealth we still have not managed to rescue them from their misery. Add to the list. If this was carried out by Muslims against non Muslims then the whole world would unite against it. But as it is being carried out by non Muslims against Muslims, the world does not care. It's business as usual.

No matter what anyone says, our solution has already been given to us through Allah and His Rasool (saw)

. If we try to find a solution in anything else, we are always going to fail. It's that simple. To implement the correct solution we need a leader who will unite us all and lead us to victory. And no matter what anyone says that leader will be The Mahdi and only The Mahdi. If I am wrong then I will eat my khufi/topi. We might be able to make a difference amongst individuals and maybe even in small communitues, but we will never make a difference on a global scale until The Mahdi unites us all and leads us.

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#27 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd December 2018 11:13

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#28 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd December 2018 12:08

Walaikumsalam

Brother xs11ax, I feel that is a big waswasah of shaitan to us Muslims these days and one of the reasons for our backwardness. Based on your analysis, you mean to say that we can't do anything now and wait for Mehdi (as). My question is for how long ? How do we know when Mehdi (as) is coming ? It can be like in next 1,00,000 years, so do we continue to suffer for such long ?

The mindset of we muslims these days is, if we are in trouble, we are asked to pray, we are asked to be patient. But no one want's to find the real solution to the problem. Shaitan has some how made us believe that all our problems would be solved by being patient and dua (Quran 2:153 : O you who have believed, seek help through patience and prayer. Indeed, Allah is with the patient”). There is no need to put any effort in anything. Whereas if you see the lifes of Prophet (Pbuh) & sahaba, their lives were filled with sacrifices and when there was a problem they were asked to be patient and pray. Just by not doing anything, there is no question of being patient.

Our fate will change, when we start giving sacrifices and then be patient. I am not asking to go and die fighting as that doesn't make sense in most of the countries, our little sacrifice would be to come out of our comfort zone and think on in my capability can do something which will empower muslims.

Another big drawback is, if someone is trying to do something good. Our own brothers will pull over leg. Hence we need to learn Islam is proper essence and take some action together. InshaAllah even today Allah will change our fate.

And I am sorry to say. Saying only Mehdi (as) will come and change our fate and nothing can happen till then is like lessening the Power of Allah ta'ala. If we follow the guidelines properly and implement, inshaAllah even in few years our fate can change as world is darul-azbaab. And it has to be done together.

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#29 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd December 2018 13:51

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i dont think that is what the brother is saying. all the solutions we muslims face and even the kuffar face the answer lies in islam. yes you get a few passive muslims who think that means sit on our hands and do nothing waiting for al mahdi but then that isnt islam is it? ive mentioned the main solutions already in my earlier post. its up to us whether we want to use islam to regain our honour and position or try other isms and schisms only to be disgraced.

most i will say is from what i read about the coming off mahdi is the overall global/internation status of muslims wont improve much but that doesnt mean we dont try but we can all concentrate more on individual basis. i cant see our useless leaders whether u consider them as murtad or not going away anytime soon so we may need to accept on that level we wont improve. even when mahdi becomes he will be fighting 'muslim' leaders for ages i was listening to mufti abdur rahmans lecture this morning. there will be sufyani, the freckled one, the lame one, the one with defective eye, the red one ( these are the titles given to the scum mahdi will be fighting, i forgotten the arabic terms) only when he defeats them will he direct his attention to the romans. we may not be able to change the world but we can change ourselfs and maybe if enough of us become real muslims we can change the wider community. again just to stress this dont mean we do nothing and just wait for mahdi but same time dont get your hopes up.

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#30 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd December 2018 17:01

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Walaikumsalam

Brother xs11ax, I feel that is a big waswasah of shaitan to us Muslims these days and one of the reasons for our backwardness.

The reason for our backwardness has already been told to us by our Master . Why look any further? Do we think we know better? We should have full faith in the advice and warnings given to us by The Prophet of Allah . He did not speak from himself. He spoke as commanded by Allah. And the reason he gave for our pitiful state is 'Wahn'.

The big waswasah of iblees is making us believe that our honour and progress lies in anything else, but jihad. The big waswasah of iblees is to make us believe that we can compete in this world at their game and by their rules. The kuffar themselves understand the power of a strong leadership and military might. It's for this reason they have spread throughout the land and established their bases and their armies. It is for this reason they control the economy in their favour and develop mighty weapons. And who can blame them? They are doing right by them. It is for this reason they can snatch Muslims from Muslim lands unchallenged and hold them without charge or trial indefinitely. No matter what social projects we do, or charitable projects we do, or whatever projects we do, we will never be able to walk into the USA and rescue a daughter of the ummah that they have stolen away without charge from her loved ones, tortured, and imprisoned on fake charges. Only way we can do that is through power and might. And while we have 'wahn' in our hearts we will never have that power and might no matter what we do and no matter what social progress we make.

Based on your analysis, you mean to say that we can't do anything now and wait for Mehdi (as). My question is for how long ? How do we know when Mehdi (as) is coming ? It can be like in next 1,00,000 years, so do we continue to suffer for such long ?

I have faith in the words of my Master . Based on his words I don't think we will be waiting for too long. Allah knows best if it is in our lifetime, but I don't think it will be so far in the future. As each day goes by this world is falling further and further into the trap of iblees. The true Muslims are suffering more and more. People are losing their iman to please the kuffar. Those who refuse to compromise their deen are being persecuted. This world cannot sustain much more. It's only a matter of time when there will be no refuge for the sincere Muslim. To prepare we need to make our iman strong. We need to unite with like minded Muslims. We need to stop relying on the kuffar. We need to be independent. We need to toughen up. We need to take out the love of dunya from our hearts. We need to turn to Allah.

The mindset of we muslims these days is, if we are in trouble, we are asked to pray, we are asked to be patient. But no one want's to find the real solution to the problem. Shaitan has some how made us believe that all our problems would be solved by being patient and dua (Quran 2:153 : O you who have believed, seek help through patience and prayer. Indeed, Allah is with the patient”).

Which Muslim sincerely prays and prays and prays and waits patiently for the prayer to be accepted and for the help of Allah to come? When was the last time you participated in qunoot nazilah behind an imam? Most of today's youth won't even know what that is. Iblees has us fooled and made us believe that dua is just secondary and the real effort is to do something ourselves. Dua needs to be right and the effort needs to be right as well.

There is no need to put any effort in anything. Whereas if you see the lifes of Prophet (Pbuh) & sahaba, their lives were filled with sacrifices and when there was a problem they were asked to be patient and pray. Just by not doing anything, there is no question of being patient.

Their lives were filled with the right effort and the right dua for their time. We need to make the right effort and the right dua for our time.

Our fate will change, when we start giving sacrifices and then be patient. I am not asking to go and die fighting as that doesn't make sense in most of the countries, our little sacrifice would be to come out of our comfort zone and think on in my capability can do something which will empower muslims.

We can make limited changes on an individual level or maybe on a local level, but we are a nation without a leader - we will do nothing on a global level.

Another big drawback is, if someone is trying to do something good. Our own brothers will pull over leg. Hence we need to learn Islam is proper essence and take some action together. InshaAllah even today Allah will change our fate.

And I am sorry to say. Saying only Mehdi (as) will come and change our fate and nothing can happen till then is like lessening the Power of Allah ta'ala.

Not really, no. Sorry, but that is a ridiculous comment.

If we follow the guidelines properly and implement, inshaAllah even in few years our fate can change as world is darul-azbaab. And it has to be done together.

Which guidelines? Who's guidelines? Rasoolullah said the problem is wahn. Is the ummah going to break away from wahn on it's own or will it take someone to lead the ummah out of wahn? Do you really think we will have another leader before The Mahdi who will unite the ummah and lead us out of our current despicable state? When it happens please let me know. I will kiss your hands in gratitude.

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