wazifa from DU Deoband: black pepper,fire,#11

I have read and re-read the Sisters post and I am lost.

Is she objecting to this? Does this she think this is a belief?

...while thinking your wife to love you...

We also have to bear mind that the effects of the evil eye are also physical or mental.

Yes.

I can show you fatwas that allow babies to wear would black bracelets for protection. I have no idea why this would be allowed. The only thing that comes to mind is the color black affecting the jinn, proved by experience?

Because:

1. Tying threads is a Hindu practise as you can see in Mandirs
2. The associated belief with it "Black Thread protects" is contrary to the teachings of Islam and Shirk
3. The associated practise with it is to go to Mazars and do Mannat etc.
4. There is NO reason for this. Its a stupid, silly, useless practise!

^^^^^^ Aqeedah

Contrast it to this:

www.darulifta-deoband.com/home/en/Dua-Supplications/4906

[QUOTE] After the Isha Salah, take 11 grains of black pepper and recite یا لطیف یا ودود 1100 times with durood 11 times before and after while thinking your wife to love you. Having it done, blow on the black peppers and put them in burning fire and pray to Allah. Do this at least for forty days.[/QUOTE]

1. There is no associated belief
2. There is reason and it is a treatment to an ailment
3. There are no strings attached
4. There is no contradiction to Sunnah

^^^^^^ Action

I listed things in order and consecutively, you broke it apart stated it out of sequence and out of context to satisfy your Nafs and desires.

Black thread makes no difference to Jinns or any other beings of that nature. IF it did then YES provided that the accompanied beliefs were not associated (i.e. Shirk etc) it will be an acceptable as a form of treatment.

Jinns are not generally affected by colours or objects. I am discussing the matter in general and they are affected by smells and not colours.

Specifically and particularly they are most affected by verses of the Qur’aan and you can test it in the Mandir or Gurdwara on non-Muslim patients and see the impact of Qur’aan fairly easily.  

Both of these can be easily tested.

I am speaking to you from my scientific background as something which can be repeated and demonstrated.  

As far as the treatment given by Darul-uloom Deoband, I cannot say if it is effective or repeatable or demonstrable but I am arguing that none of these are prerequisites for something being permissible. On the contrary, strong smelly salts and playing Qur’aan on headphones gets a reaction and can be tested by any layman but I am not claiming them to be effective or super methods...

So I am saying that I have no idea if the treatment from Darul-uloom Deoband is effective or repeatable or scientific or logical but I am arguing that none of these are factors to be taken into consideration for their permissibility