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#61 [Permalink] Posted on 1st May 2020 05:56
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True.I still don't understand why one of the brothers was getting really frustrated when I said some positive
things about Mufti Muneer.He didn't even provide with evidence when he said something about the FBI case.Yes,if he provides some evidence,then why not believe him?The only info people have of Mufti Muneer is the one from his website.If someone has any other info,they should share it with others before getting angry at them for not believing them with information they gave without any evidence.
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#62 [Permalink] Posted on 1st May 2020 06:06
^ I will concur about the dubiousness of this individual.

Another American shaykh also warned against this character recently...I was trying to find the quote but probably best not to name the shaykh anyways...I should mention this particular shaykh spoke softly and gently about another clown, but spoke harshly about this particular character.

Husn-ud-dhann is good to have...but not when it can hurt your brothers and sisters.
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#63 [Permalink] Posted on 1st May 2020 06:12
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Insha'Allah when you provide evidence,I will not hesitate to believe you.
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#64 [Permalink] Posted on 1st May 2020 06:25
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Assalamualaikum,who were you just talking about on the mufti Muneer topic,Muadh khan or mufti sb,
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#65 [Permalink] Posted on 1st May 2020 11:33
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Third time in Public and Private, nobody is angry.

You seem to have a problem with discussing issues in public and private so first settle on a strategy on how you want to interact, your queries have been responded to.

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And what were you doing to Mufti Taqi Usmani (HA) on the issue of loosening restrictions on COVID-19 in which he is complying with WHO?

You posted a single Video of a single Doctor to refute Mufti Taqi Usmani (HA) and you still have not told us the difference between a "single Physician" and WHO.

I understand that you have found an opening to create chaos and sow seeds of enmity between people so you will move ahead and exploit it (as usual) so you must be delighted and running your hands with excitement with the prospect of Fitnah

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#66 [Permalink] Posted on 1st May 2020 11:38
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Has Mufti Muneer Akhoon been living in America since the 1980s? I had the impression that he moved there from Pakistan some time in the late 90s, or maybe even around 2000-2001.

P.S: I don't mean to say that you haven't known him since the 80s. You could have known him even if he didn't live in America.
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#67 [Permalink] Posted on 1st May 2020 11:41
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Mufti Muneer is not alone in this issue. Sadly you will find Ulama who do not practice on this Hadith. Its not very common but definitely exists.
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#68 [Permalink] Posted on 1st May 2020 11:51
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I have said what I had to say on the topic and answered the Brother in private. There are a lot of private sources in Karachi and New York which I will not reveal.



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#69 [Permalink] Posted on 1st May 2020 18:52
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That's not the point,the point is you started saying things like I"'m an American", "I know him more then you" as if I said your not an American and something about knowing him more then you.Did I say your not an American?Did I say I know him more then you?You also seem like you don't want people to follow Mufti Muneer,and said something about an FBI case.Again,In that case you should provide more evidence,the only information people have of Mufti Muneer is from his website and his T.V. channel.

How do you expect people to believe you when you haven't provided any evidence?You also said "Majority of American Deobandees know the game and give a polite nod to his "Majesty, The Grand Mufti of America" because nobody wants to be visited by the FBI by crossing him so no (Deobandi) refutes him".Well he's one of the only Deobandi Alim in the U.S. who supports global moonsighting, most Deobandi ulama don't support him in that issue!In fact most deobandi Ulama don't even consult with him on important matters,he lives in New York!If they live in California they consult with the Muftis of Calfornia,if they live in Chicago they consult with the Muftis of Chicago, etc.

You should provide more evidence before you expect people to believe you.The only evidence people have of him is from his website and T.V. channel.
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#70 [Permalink] Posted on 1st May 2020 19:17
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There are a lot of private sources in Karachi and New York which I will not reveal.

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#71 [Permalink] Posted on 1st May 2020 19:20
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What's your view on global moon sighting?
What's the opinion on imitating the kuffar?
What's the ruling on isbaal?
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#72 [Permalink] Posted on 1st May 2020 20:11
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I don't really care if you believe me or don't. The response has been given to you in private or public.

Your message doesn't read well so no idea what you are actually trying to convey. If you are actually trying to favour "global Moon sighting" then it isn't the position of any Shaf'ae, Maliki or Hanbali Madhabs and nothing but "an opinion" twisted within the Hanafi Madhab.

Today, none of these Hanafi Ulama follow it:

  1. Hanafi Ulama of India
  2. Hanafi Ulama of Pakistan
  3. Hanafi Ulama of Bangladesh
  4. Hanafi Ulama of Afghanistan
  5. Hanafi Ulama of South Africa
  6. Hanafi Ulama of United Kingdom
  7. Hanafi Ulama of Australia
  8. Hanafi Ulama of America
  9. Hanafi Ulama of Canada


You have found "Grand Mufti of America" issuing a Fatwa upon it, so no idea what you actually mean by this post??? If you are a Mureed of this FBI informant then take a long walk off a short plank, I really don't care.

If you want to discuss a topic then learn to write coherently and express yourself intelligently so others can understand you. You "blessed us" with your presence on this forum a few days ago and now want to dictate to us what we should or should not talk about.

Its a public forum so everyone is free to discuss what they wish, you want to follow an FBI informant, you are free too...we don't want to.

He is an Alim expressing himself on his website and his TV channel, what else does somone need to have an opinion of him? Our Ulama disagreed with Maulana Ahmed Raza Khan Barelwee (RA) based on his books, Barelwees can turn around and say you have nothing but his books...

Are you honestly, this THICK?
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#73 [Permalink] Posted on 1st May 2020 20:29
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There is a difference between disagreeing with the basis of a single fatwa (especially where risk of loss of life) vs. warning against a shady individual. I have husn-ud-dhann of Mufti Taqi, Mufti Siraaj. Not so much of this Mufti Muneer.

If you think I am "refuting" like I am stuck in the 90s where everything is refutation or counter-refutation, like you are, I'm sorry that's not the case. Refuting and flame wars on minutiae killed the Muslim online communities and forums...and it will probably kill this one too.
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#74 [Permalink] Posted on 1st May 2020 20:37
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Once again...

Do you know the difference between World Health Organisation (WHO) and a single Doctor?

Nutjob Evangelicals, Fascists, Racists and Nazis also express the same views about "tolerance and freedom of expression" so should the rest of the world let them express their whacked out ideas?
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#75 [Permalink] Posted on 1st May 2020 21:12
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Yeah,yeah,yeah.Just provide evidence that he's an FBI informant.
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