Forum Menu - Click/Swipe to open
 

Inspectors to quiz girls in hijab

You have contributed 0.0% of this topic

Thread Tools
Appreciate
Topic Appreciation
To appreciate this topic, click 'Appreciate Topic' on the right.
Rank Image
Rajab's avatar
Offline
Unspecified
1,871
Brother
919
Rajab's avatar
#1 [Permalink] Posted on 19th November 2017 02:33


There have been almost 30,000 reports of child-on-child sexual abuse since 2013, 2,625 of which took place on school premises but lets instead focus on and quiz the girls who wear headscarfs?
report post quote code quick quote reply
+3 -0
back to top
Rank Image
Rajab's avatar
Offline
Unspecified
1,871
Brother
919
Rajab's avatar
#2 [Permalink] Posted on 19th November 2017 02:36
The image in op is from the Sunday Times newspaper, UK, 19/11/2017
report post quote code quick quote reply
No post ratings
back to top
Rank Image
xs11ax's avatar
Unspecified
3,243
Brother
2,554
xs11ax's avatar
#3 [Permalink] Posted on 19th November 2017 12:24
salaam

so they going after a minority within a minority within a minority within a minority within a minority!

muslims make up just 5.02% of the UK population.

from that 5.02% less than half are women.

from the muslim women a percentage are of school age.

from those who are of school age an even smaller number are of primary school age.

from those of primary school age an even smaller number wear the hijab.

this latest witch hunt will not achieve anything. it might not even happen. and if it does happen it will probably be half assed. what it will achieve is to further demonise muslims and deflect the real issues ALL people of ALL colours and faiths in the UK are facing. people in the UK are dying because they dont have the basics to live. some are killing themselves because they can no longer carry on living in poverty. yet the government allows their friends to remove vast amounts of money out of the UK to avoid taxation. taxes that would have contributed to the UK so we would not have 300,000 homeless, not have 33% of kids living in poverty, not have kids relying on school meals to eat, not have the public supporting food banks, etc.

we are just scapegoats and deflection to take away focus from the real problems. we need to unite with the people regardless of faith and colour. open up the masajids to the homeless. open up soup kitchens to feed the homeless and the hungry and the elderly. open up food banks in the masajid. we have the resources, the people and the money already in place to do this. imagine if every major masjid provided for the homeless and the destitute like we should be doing. the attitude of the people towards us would change just like that!
report post quote code quick quote reply
+3 -0Like x 3
back to top
Rank Image
Offline
Unspecified
141
Brother
110
#4 [Permalink] Posted on 20th November 2017 16:51
So, what's the best way to deal with this?

I think the girl's need to be taught what response to give when asked by the Ofsted charlatans. Perhaps the truth will be enough. They can be taught that if anyone asks why are they wearing "that" on their head, they could respond with something like:

"It's just for practice for when i'm older, just to get used to wearing it, a bit of practice".

Would something like that do? What else could be said?

report post quote code quick quote reply
No post ratings
back to top
Rank Image
abu mohammed's avatar
London
26,183
Brother
9,545
abu mohammed's avatar
#5 [Permalink] Posted on 20th November 2017 17:22
Little children can say it with a little drawing and be creative at the same time. They will also understand a bit more of why they wear the Hijab.

report post quote code quick quote reply
No post ratings
back to top
Rank Image
Offline
Unspecified
1,395
Brother
695
#6 [Permalink] Posted on 20th November 2017 18:15
lop you guys honestly think they doing this out of ignorance? these fools know exactly what they are doing. attack and humilate muslims. make hijab something to be embarassed about or make islam to troublesome that muslims just give it up as they cant be asked with the agro.

what iv noticed is that its mostly apostate and coconuts who are spearheading all the recent attacks on islam. all this rubbish abt hijab is bein pushed by aposate like iram ramzan, sara khan, amina lowe or whatever.
report post quote code quick quote reply
+0 -0Agree x 1
back to top
Rank Image
WifaqulUlama's avatar
Offline
Unspecified
680
Brother
1,140
WifaqulUlama's avatar
#7 [Permalink] Posted on 20th November 2017 20:57

 

Modesty is an integral part of the IslaÌ„mic faÌ„ith. Muslims (both men and women) are instructed to be modest and abide by the rules and regulations of HijaÌ„b. An outward manifestation of HijaÌ„b for women is the scarf which is being targeted by Ofsted. It is not merely a piece of cloth but an act of worship. Ofsted has decided to impede an act of worship, granted that it may not be an obligation or a duty upon small girls. Parents have the unalienable right to teach, set an example and nurture good values in their children. How can anyone see a little girl with a scarf on her head as “sexualisation”? Equating (an act of worship) with “sexualisation” is plainly absurd! Ms Spielman previously saw children in hi-vis jackets as “tiny construction workers”  and now she sees little girls with scarves on their heads as “sexualised”?

Read full statement here:

www.wifaqululama.co.uk/ofstedhijab/

report post quote code quick quote reply
+1 -0Like x 1
back to top
Rank Image
Offline
Unspecified
141
Brother
110
#8 [Permalink] Posted on 20th November 2017 21:14
mkdon101 wrote:
View original post


Of course we know this is not due to their ignorance. They know exactly what they are doing. Developing new ways of indoctrinating and demonising Muslims.

That's why we should know exactly what we are doing.

Imagine they start asking the girls, and we have not prepared the girls. If the girls say something wrong, we will have a major situation on our hands. If they girls don't say anything, matters could get worse.

So we need to know what our response will be and prepare the girls.

Not doing anything or complaining is not going to get us very far. We have to prepare the girls. And if we prepare the girls it will actually work to our advantage as the girls will be getting educated on their deen at the same time.

If someone was to ask your daughter why is she wearing her hijab at such a young age, she should be able to tell them why. The truth is that is for practice/training and that also throws off there excuse that it's sexualising them.
report post quote code quick quote reply
No post ratings
back to top
Rank Image
Offline
Unspecified
141
Brother
110
#9 [Permalink] Posted on 20th November 2017 21:18
WifaqulUlama wrote:
View original post


Good response. If the girls can be taught this in kids terms, then it would be very good if someone starts questioning them.

report post quote code quick quote reply
No post ratings
back to top
Rank Image
abu mohammed's avatar
London
26,183
Brother
9,545
abu mohammed's avatar
#10 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd November 2017 21:09
report post quote code quick quote reply
+1 -0Like x 1
back to top
Rank Image
Abdur Rahman ibn Awf's avatar
Offline
Unspecified
3,409
Brother
3,775
Abdur Rahman ibn Awf's avatar
#11 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd November 2017 22:56
Ryder wrote:
View original post


You going to teach little kids how to be interrogated? and that going to work?.... How about kicking up a fuss preventing such interrogations taking place in the first place.


report post quote code quick quote reply
+1 -0Like x 1
back to top
Rank Image
Offline
Unspecified
141
Brother
110
#12 [Permalink] Posted on 24th November 2017 08:24
Abdur Rahman ibn Awf wrote:
View original post


Abdur Rahman, I do not believe you have thought this out properly.

Whether you like it or not, it's probably a question of when not if they get interrogated. And since this has been in mainstream media, it may not only be ofsted questioning them, but other (non-muslim) parents or teachers may question them at some point to satisfy their own curiosity.

So what do you propose the girls do when they are questioned?

Anyway, the above video posted by abu muhammed is exactly the sort of response that needs to be given by every girl who is questioned. If that is being taught how to be interrogated, then it's excellent. Besides, in these times we are living, of course we should be teaching our kids things like this. it's only going to get worse, they need to be prepared.

Kicking up a fuss is just being reactive - rarely does much good. We need to think 2 moves ahead and be prepared.
report post quote code quick quote reply
+2 -0Like x 2
back to top
Rank Image
xs11ax's avatar
Unspecified
3,243
Brother
2,554
xs11ax's avatar
#13 [Permalink] Posted on 24th November 2017 12:21
salaam

why should we be on the back foot all the time? it is clear that this is just a witch hunt and no one actually believes kids wearing hijab is a problem. i dont know why they are doing this, but i guarantee it has nothing to do with the welfare of the children. uk schoolkids have much bigger problems than the hijab such as going hungry in school holidays, getting bullied to the point of committing suicide, mental and sexual abuse, drugs, etc. has any kid killed themselves due to wearing hijab? but what about the kids who are killing themselves or getting on the verge of suicoide due to bullying. why waste resources on a problem (hijab) thats not even there when resources are already low and can be spent on much better more important things.

we bow down to this and try to explain ourselves, they will only come up with another issue further down the line. lol do you really think they want our explanations and want the kids to explain themselves?? they already know what they need to know. this is a witch hunt pure and simple. i dont know what they are trying to achieve, but its definitely nothing to do with the welfare of the muslim kids or any other kids for that matter.
report post quote code quick quote reply
+1 -0Winner x 1
back to top
Rank Image
Offline
Unspecified
141
Brother
110
#14 [Permalink] Posted on 24th November 2017 12:44
xs11ax wrote:
View original post


That is true. No one is going to deny that.

But the question still remains so what are we supposed to do? We all know and can agree on the problem. But we need solutions.

The fact of the matter is we are on the back foot and we will continue to be on the back foot because we have no real authority, no massive media voice, no control over anything of real significance. We are a minority, and if the big bullies want to pick on us what do we do?

Every time they pick on us we have to answer back, even if it shows us up as being on the back foot - as is the case in this girls hijab scenario. Because an overall strategy to make the bully back down permanently is a long long way away.


report post quote code quick quote reply
No post ratings
back to top
Rank Image
Abdur Rahman ibn Awf's avatar
Offline
Unspecified
3,409
Brother
3,775
Abdur Rahman ibn Awf's avatar
#15 [Permalink] Posted on 24th November 2017 13:45
Ryder wrote:
View original post


I would have to disagree not have I only thought this out properly I have spent a bit of time looking at the psychology behind the propaganda, and how other communities have dealt with discrimination Jewish, Catholic, Black over the course of a hundred years, I cannot find a single incidence of what you are proposing having ever worked.... Unless you call this out for what it is which is a witch-hunt against Muslims and take a strong stand right at the beginning you will be discriminated even more. Secondly I was aware of this issue before the thread was even posted and this campaign has been led by several muslim feminists the leader of the campaign is Amina Lone from Manchester.

Also Extremely naive for starters that you are going to get every parent out their to train their young children in countering Anti-Islam propaganda. To think, you can even train young children to do this as parents, know.. to give an example child picks up the phone, parent tells them say I am not home, child goes, "Daddy said, to tell you he is not at home." ... Further more if these Inspectors are going to question children they are not stupid they can tell if the child is giving their own answer , first thing they are going to ask is "did mummy and daddy tell you to say this."

On top of that by acting apologetically you are by default accepting the premise, of the moronic argument that dressing modestly "sexualises" a child whilst putting make on young children and having beauty contests and little girls in mini skirts is not sexaulisation. That is just a plain stupid argument Amanda Speilman the head of OfSTED is making.

Even some of the right wing commentators on Social Media consider the idea of interrogating young children in Schools abhorrent.

One of the women campaigning to have the Hijab banned also realises that such a move would backfire, there is certain line that should not be crossed.,

Aisha Ali Khan a rabidly feminist young Lawyer, Here is her response.

aisha ali-khan
@aak1880
'Little girls do not dictate school uniform policy; schools do, with or without parental consent'


How do you think the Jewish community would response? by being apologetic?

They would launch a media campaign, they would look into the background of Amanda Speilman, and her husband Adam speilman go after her, .. she is a political appointee she was rejected by a select committee but was over ruled by the Minister for education,... they would label OfSTEd of being anti-semitic institute.

They would make it clear to the school of their child they will not tolarate their child being discriminated against. If their child was to be questioned they will take legal action against the school, for failing in their duty of care.

If any muslim child is questioned parents should contact a lawyer straight up.

Primary school would only be a test case the argument Amina Lone is making that it is not compulsory in Islam for girls under the age of puberty to were Hijab...If it is banned primary Schools that will set the ball rolling then it will be on to secondary schools, colleges, Universities, etc.

report post quote code quick quote reply
No post ratings
back to top