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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 25th January 2018 06:45

Who destroyed Nalanda University and why?


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Originally Answered: Who destroyed Nalanda University?
By M Naushad Ansari,

Nalanda University, which was set up at Rajgir in Bihar in 413 AD during the Gupta dynasty, had emerged as a world seat of learning before it was destroyed sometime in the 11th century. External Affairs Minister, SushmaSwaraj along with Bihar’s Chief Minister, Jitam Ram Manjhi, formally inaugurated the new Nalanda University on September 19. The creation of new varsity came into existence in 2010 through an Act of Parliament seeking to recapture the lost glory of its earlier avatar. Many of the dailies published reports on varsity’s past glory, its decay, theories of uprooting of Buddhism etc. Unfortunately, most of these carried fabricated and concocted stories on destruction of the varsity, peddling a perverse perception of the Indian past.


The most amusing was to read ‘Nalanda varsity set to capture erstwhile glory in new avatar’in Hindustan Times, Patna,on September 1, 2014. In the write-up it was stated that‘the university fell upon hard times when it was overrun by the Huns under Mihirakula during the reign of Skandgupta (455-467 AD). But it was restored by his successors. The university was destroyed again by the Gaudas in the early 7th century but was restored again by king Harshvardhana (606-648 AD). But it could not recover from the third and final blow dealt in 1193 AD by Bakhtiar Khilji, a general of Qutubuddin Aibak, out to uproot Buddhism. The Turkish invaders set blaze and destroyed the huge library of the university, said to rival one at Luxor in Egypt’. On September 15, 2014 the same daily, again, reiterated that ‘the original Nalanda University……was burnt down by an army of Turkish invaders in 1193’. (‘Nalanda varsity set to capture erstwhile glory in new avatar’, Hindustan Times, Patna, September 15, 2014)

Another leading daily of Patna, The Times of India, in its September 20, 2014 issue stated that ‘, Nalanda Mahavihara was reduced to ruins by foreign invaders’. Daily Pioneer from Delhi, on September 20, 2014, reported that ‘Nalanda University was burnt down 800 years ago by a Turkish army’ (September 20, 2014). Without mentioning the name these dailies have indicated that it was none else than Bakhtiyar Khilji who destroyed Nalanda University.

Such falsification of history, with a clear design of creating hatred and ill-will in the society, misleads readers and pulls wool over their eyes. In obvious fact, the historical evidence proves that much before invasion of Bakhtiyar Khilji, Nalanda University had already fallen to ruins because of the rivalry of Hinayana (simple Mahayana) and Mahayana influenced with the ideas of Brahminism. Indeed, there was another Mahavihara in Odantapuri (modern Bihar Sharif in Nalanda District) inside the fort of the local king which was partially affected in the course of battle between the forces of Bakhtiyar Khilji and the local king in 1197 or 1198 AD. The chronicle, Tabaqat-i-Nasiri of Minhaj-i –Siraj, which is usually referred to be historical record of the time, apparently refers to this place and does not even mention the name of Nalanda. Presumably, Nalanda was then a desolate place.

The fortified monastery which Bakhtiyar captured was, “known as Audand-Bihar or Odandapura-vihara” (Odantapuri in Biharsharif then known simply as Bihar). Minhaj does not refer to Nalanda at all. He merely speaks of the ransacking of the “fortress of Bihar” (Hisar-i-Bihar). This is the view of many historians and, most importantly, of Jadunath Sarkar, whose credibility is honoured even by right wing historians. (History of Bengal, vol. 2, pp.3-4).

Historical evidence also suggests that Bakhtiyar Khilji did not go to Nalanda at all. It ‘escaped the main fury of the Muslim conquest because it lay not on the main route from Delhi to Bengal but needed a separate expedition’. (A S Altekar in Introduction to Roerich’s Biography of Dharmasvamin). Also, a few years after Bakhtiyar’s sack of Odantapuri, when the Tibetan monk Dharmasvamin visited Nalanda in 1234, he “found some buildings unscathed” in which some pandits and monks resided and received instruction from Mahapandita Rahulshribhadra. In fact, Bakhtiyar seems to have proceeded from Biharsharif to Nadia in Bengal through the hills and jungles of the region of Jharkhand, which, incidentally, finds first mention in an inscription of 1295 AD (Comprehensive History of India, vol. IV, pt. I, p.601).

KP Jaiswal Research institute, Patna was established in 1951 by the Government of Bihar with the object, inter alia, to promote historical research, archaeological excavations and investigations and publication of works of permanent value to scholars. The research work titled ‘The Antiquarian Remains in Bihar’ by DR Patil, published as a ‘Historical Research Series’, by the Institute in 1963 reveals that: ‘…no Mohammedan Makhdum, Pir or saint of great repute happened to grace the tops of the Nalanda mounds with their tombs or mosques. This is a feature, which, it should be noted, is commonly to be observed all over Bihar at sites of celebrated and important sanctuaries. At Bihar Sharif itself many of such Muslim monuments still exist; but their absence at Nalanda, hardly six or seven miles away, is rather surprising. Had Nalanda been a living institute of great repute or importance at the time of the invasion of Bakhtiar Khilji in 1197 or 1198 AD, we should expect the Muslim Chronicles of the event to have known and mentioned the name of Nalanda. The place, said to have been destroyed by the invader, is described to be a great city and a place of study then known as Bihar, which would more appropriately be a reference to the modern Bihar Sharif, which also had a monastery, and not to Nalanda, near which there existed no big city worth the name. As is known, one of the Pala rulers had established a monastery at Odantapuri or Bihar Sharif itself which may have affected adversely. All these would indicate that, quite before Bakhtiar Khilji’s invasion, Nalanda had perhaps fallen to decay or ruins already; but how and when actually this happened is still a mystery to be unravelled’. (Page 304). The research further indicates that‘….there is, therefore, reason to believe that Nalanda had met its final end sometime in the 11th century i.e. more than hundred years before Bakhtiar Khilji invaded Bihar in 1197A.D’.(Page 325). This historical research series was published under the patronage of the Government of Bihar in 1963.

Furthermore, DN Jha, former Professor, Department of History, University of Delhi, in the article ‘Grist to the reactionary mill’(Indian Express, July 9, 2014), on destruction of Nalanda University, quotes that: ‘Tibetan monk and scholar, Taranatha, writes inHistory of Buddhism in India’ : ‘During the consecration of the temple built by Kakutsiddha at Nalendra [Nalanda] “the young naughty sramanas threw slops at the two tirthika beggars and kept them pressed inside door panels and set ferocious dogs on them”. Angered by this, one of them went on arranging for their livelihood and the other sat in a deep pit and “engaged himself in surya sadhana” [solar worship] , first for nine years and then for three more years and having thus “acquired mantrasiddhi” he “performed a sacrifice and scattered the charmed ashes all around” which “immediately resulted in a miraculously produced fire”, consuming all the eighty four temples and the scriptures some of which, however, were saved by water flowing from an upper floor of the nine storey Ratnodadhi temple’. (History of Buddhism in India,written in the 17th century, English tr. Lama Chimpa & Alka Chattopadhyaya, summary of page 141-42).This should mean, he continues, that ‘the idea of Brahminical hostility to the religion of the Buddha traveled to Tibet fairly early and became part of its Buddhist tradition, and found expression in the 17th-18th century Tibetan writings’.

A number of other Indian scholars like R K Mookerji (Education in Ancient India), Sukumar Dutt (Buddhist Monks and Monasteries of India), Buddha Prakash (Aspects of Indian History and Civilization), and S C Vidyabhushana who interpreted the text, viewed that it refers to an actual “scuffle between the Buddhist and Brahmanical mendicants and the latter, being infuriated, propitiated the Sun god for twelve years, performed a fire- sacrifice and threw the living embers and ashes from the sacrificial pit into the Buddhist temples which eventually destroyed the great library at Nalanda called Ratnodadhi’ (History of Indian Logic, page 516 as cited by D R Patil,The Antiquarian Remains in Bihar, page 327). Scholars named above were all polymaths of unimpeachable academic honesty and integrity.

As regards uprooting of Buddhism there are various theories put forward which seek to explain the tragic eclipse. Even today Gaya is oftenly in news as Buddhists are still struggling to wrest control of their most holy shrine. The age-old conflict between Buddhism and Brahminism, it seems, is yet to be resolved.

But the effort to associate Bakhtiyar Khalji with the destruction and burning of the University of Nalanda and of the uprooting of Buddhism from its place of birth is a glaring example of the wilful distortion of history. Certainly such biased historians and their ilk are always free to falsify historical data but this only reveals the lack of any serious historical exercise.The truth is sacrosanct and history needs to be preserved and presentation without making it a victim of the prejudices of any kind.
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The author Mr. Ansari is Secretary of Peace Foundation, Patna and he can be reached at E-mail : peacefoundationbihar@gmail.com

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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 15th March 2018 06:48
The Ottoman caliphs

Why European Islam’s current problems might reflect a 100-year-old mistake

Europe’s move to undermine the caliphate shifted the centre of theological influence
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Jul 26th 2016

by ERASMUS

EVERY time a European city is shaken by an act of mass violence, the continent's heavy-weight newspapers host agonised debates over what has gone wrong. In particular, debaters often ask, should European states have responded differently to the emergence of large, discontented Muslim minorities, either by accommodating cultural difference more generously or (as some advocate) by suppressing it? Even when it becomes clear that Islam was not really a factor at all (as seems to be the case with last week's killing spree by a maladjusted young man in Munich) the discussions go on.

One of America's leading authorities on European Islam has made a rather nuanced and unusual contribution to this conversation. Writing in the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung in response to a column asserting that "terrorism has a lot to do with Islam", Jonathan Laurence argues (link to English translation) that the present-day pathologies of European Islam are a kind of aftershock from a century-old mistake. Or rather, of a short-sighted policy that went into higher gear almost exactly 100 years ago. In the summer of 1916, the British government and its war allies began fomenting an Arab revolt against the political and above all, spiritual authority of the Ottomans. This brought about the British-led capture of Jerusalem and the collapse of Ottoman dominion over Islam's holiest places, whether in the Levant or Arabia. As an alternative to Ottoman rule over the Arabs, the British initially backed the Hashemite dynasty which still reigns over Jordan; but the ultimate beneficiary was the royal house of Saud which took over Mecca and Medina in 1924.
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In the view of Mr Laurence, a professor at Boston College, this brought to an end a period of several decades in which the caliphate (a spiritual role which the Ottomans combined, until 1922, with the worldly rank of sultan) had a generally benign effect on global Islam. Not only within the Ottoman realm but far beyond it, the caliphate formed the apex of a international network of teachers, preachers and judges. As was shown by Halil Inalcιk, an Ottoman historian who died this week aged 100, the sultan-caliphs' real power varied a lot over time; some managed to control the ulema or religious scholars, others didn't. But the institution's global spiritual role was especially important in the late 19th century and early 20th century, ultimately embracing more than 100m Muslims living under British rule (in South Asia) and under Dutch rule (in modern Indonesia). As Mustafa Akyol, a Turkish writer on religion, points out, the caliph's sway over Muslims in the Asia-Pacific region had benign consequences for the United States; Abdulhamid II (pictured), the last long-reigning sultan, helped persuade Filipino Muslims to accept American power over their archipelago. (Others have darker memories of that sovereign; Armenians hold him responsible for killing tens of thousands of their kin in 1895.)

Yet precisely because the Ottoman caliphate was so attractive to some of their subjects, European powers worked hard to undermine it. From at least 1870, British diplomacy tried to shift the centre of gravity in global Islam from the Turks to the Arabs. The Dutch tried to stop their Muslim subjects deferring to the caliph in their public prayers. With somewhat more success, the French promoted alternative centres of spiritual authority among the Muslims they ruled in Algeria and Morocco. As long as the Ottomans retained control of Libya (ie, until 1912), the caliphate kept some sway in North Africa. But when Turkey's new secular nationalist rulers finally abolished the office of caliph in 1924, their job was made easier by the fact that European powers had been sabotaging the sacred office for decades.

As Mr Laurence sees things, the abolition of the old caliphate created a vacuum that has been filled, over the subsequent century, by much darker substitutes, up to and including the new caliphate proclaimed by Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the leader of Islamic State. Even where they stop short of fomenting anti-Western violence, global networks of religious fundamentalism and puritanism, such as those
linking preachers from say, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, have replaced the relatively emollient tone set by the Ottoman caliphs, who were connoisseurs of Western art and music, as a colleague has written.

Is this anything more than an intriguing detail of history? Yes, much more, in Mr Laurence's view. It's naive to imagine that today's European Islam can be hermetically sealed from the countries where Islam predominates. One way or another, Muslims in Europe are going to be touched by ideas and styles that emanate from countries where their faith predominates. Today's European governments need to have a sophisticated understanding of how that influence works, and above all to understand the risk of unintended consequences. By staunching one stream of cultural or theological influence, they may be opening the way for much worse ones.

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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 7th May 2018 16:09
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Aligarh Muslim University is responsible for the removal of the picture of Mohammad Ali Jinnah. At least ten places in Gurgaon were disrupted in Jumaa prayer.

In Safdarjung Enclave, Delhi, a saffron color vessel was changed to 'temple' on a dome of a Tughlaq period.

The slogan was written on the walls of the Church of St. Stephens College, Delhi - the temple will be made here.

If we do not see any mutual relations in these incidents on different occasions and at different places, then we and the helpless voters like you should be concerned about the future of democracy in India and get absorbed in Bhagavat Bhajan.

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These dalits will also get the certificate of 'anti-national'?

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Do not go a little further ...

Before the Uttar Pradesh assembly elections, you were told that the fear of the Muslims of Dabang and criminals like the Hindus of Karaana area of ​​western Uttar Pradesh have to leave their homes and run away.

Some TV reporter told us that Kairana has become second Kashmir where Hindus have once again been forced to flee.

But it seems that nowadays there is no fear of the oppressed Muslims of the Hindus. At present, nobody is talking about the escape of Hindus.

Four years ago, when Narendra Modi's government came to the center in the center, he was worshiped in the name of 'Homecoming' of Christians and Muslims from Agra to several small towns.

Then it seemed that Muslims have created the biggest conspiracy called 'love-jihad' to end the breed of Hindus.

In the meantime, Muslims have been beaten or killed till they have been beefed up, smuggling of cattle, and in many places in the wake of love-jihad.

Are Shambhalal Reghars 'Lone Wolf' of Hindutva?

These three people will be mentioned in Modi's "talk of mind"?

Such deaths are not registered in patriotism
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Asansol to Aurangabad

You must have seen that video in which a fat young man sitting in an expensive car with a bearded and cap-faced, a poor and poor poor man who is seen from a helpless person is being forced to slap Jai Shriram's slogan.

All this work is not done in a hidden manner, but in the hands, the saffron flag of Hindutva - and sometimes even the Tricolor - is carried out openly and openly.

The festivals of Navratri and Ramnavmi will have ever been devoted to devotion, but now they have become an excuse for the horrific demonstration of naked sword and trident.

In such festivals, a group of motorbike riders 'patriots' will go to the locality of Muslims, with absolute constitutional slogans such as Jai Shriram, Pakistan Mudabad, Bharat Mata Ki Jai, and along with 'To be in India, Vande Mataram will have to say' to utter absolute unconstitutional slogans.

Not only this, these trolls force the Muslims to make such slogans.

Stones and arson were initiated in view of the rumors of Ramnavami in West Bengal's Asansol from Aurangabad in Bihar. People were killed Crores of property were consumed.
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Who does all this?

By seeing the RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat ever, can you imagine that he would instigate his volunteers for such violence?

It is said that every vindication of the ancient traditions is very different from the Hindu philosopher, but it is a different kind of quoted sentence.

What is the worst thing to do in order to unite the Hindu society, to engage with its ancient traditions, to celebrate your Teej festival, worship your gods and goddesses?

Sangha is a cultural organization and it does not have anything to do with politics. The senior officials of the association have been saying these things for years.

They say that the Sangh does not instruct any organization to do something. It only inspires. But similarly his TV shows Zakir Naik used to inspire, but he is not allowed to enter the country.

In the Ram Janmabhoomi movement, RSS was not directly involved. He assigned this task to the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP).
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For the purpose of Hindu ...

The VHP says that our work is a work of religion. We work for the Hindu purpose with the blessings of saints and saints and we have no relation with violence.

In the year 1984, the Vishwa Hindu Parishad formed the Bajrang Dal for the work of 'safety etc.'.

Bajrang Dal gives its volunteers training for running sticks, razors, trident and gun in 'self defense' - and in these training camps, volunteers who are playing the enemy are shown in a beard and cap in a Muslim.

This same Bajrang Dal leader Babu Bajrangi organizes the game of assassination and arson in the presence of police in the presence of police in the Muslim slums Naroda Patia near Ahmedabad. They are also punished from the court.

But the blame for these killings seems to be on Babu Bajrangi, why not Bajrang Dal and why the Vishwa Hindu Parishad, which inspires Bajrang Dal and its inspiration, is not on RSS?
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Babri Masjid demolition

The Sangh has never been so lenient with the violence as Mahatma Gandhi had.

Mahatma Gandhi took the non-cooperation movement spread all over the country immediately after the violence of Chauri-Chaura, without taking it promptly.

But the Sangh did not regret that the BJP government, which was inspired by its inspiration, had promised the Supreme Court to protect the Babri Masjid, even then volunteers destroyed the Babri Masjid.
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Atal Bihari Vajpayee had given similar references to karsevaks as the child was given to the devil child on the fate of the house.

After the demolition of the Babri Masjid, Vajpayee asked the kar sevaks - Hey monkeys, you broke the temple!

An example of union's recommendation towards violence is given when the union does not forget to mention its service projects.
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Image caption A lower court in Hyderabad had acquitted all the accused of the Mecca Masjid blast 11 years ago, on May 16.
Do not care ...

It is also true that where Bajrang Dal gives training to its workers in gunnapping and racket training, volunteers working in organizations encouraged by Sangh like Vanvasi Kalyan Ashram, do service projects in one-parallel and distant villages.

There is no shortage of such people and volunteers who are deeply committed, who do not care who has the government in Delhi.

Similar service projects have also emerged like Swami Aseemanand, who were accused of bomb blasts in the Samjhauta Express, Ajmer Sharif and Mecca Masjid and now have been acquitted in many cases.

On the other hand, the decision of the court came on and on the other side in Karnataka, Bhartiya Janata Party President Amit Shah accused Congress President Rahul Gandhi of opposing Hindu culture and asked them to apologize to the Hindu society.
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The concerns of the future of democracy

But what is the relation between Swami Aseemanand and Amit Shah or Narendra Modi's saffron patkiede farmers of Gurgaon, who reach the queues of Muslims studying Jumu, start slogans of Vande Mataram and Jai Shriram, and interfere with prayers?

Obviously, they do not have to scare people who are praying for prayers after ordering from Narendra Modi, Amit Shah or Mohan Bhagwat.

This was the decision of the Hindu Joint Sangharsh Committee which included people of Bajrang Dal, Vishwa Hindu Parishad, Shiv Sena and Hindu Jagran Manch.

Dear readers, I conclude my point here and if you still do not see any connection between the countless incidents and characters counted above, then the time has come to really take down the worry of the future of Indian democracy and get absorbed in Bhagavat Bhajan.

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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 19th January 2022 11:42
आगरा का किला/मालगोदाम और गुजरात का सूरत

सुधीर सांकृत्यायन

सन् George Oxenden को ब्रिटिश ईस्ट इंडिया कंपनी के सूरत किले यानि मालगोदाम का chief बनाया गया।
उस समय तक दक्षिण एशिया यानि इंडिया में तथा दक्षिण पूर्व एशिया के देश इंडोनेशिया में नीदरलैंड की डच ईस्ट इंडीज कंपनी और पुर्तगाली काफी डोमिनैंट पावर बन चुके थे।
Dutch and Portuguese were the dominant powers in Asia in 1662.
हालांकि 1650 तक इंडोनेशिया में पुर्तगालियों का प्रभाव काफी कम हो गया था क्योंकि इंडोनेशिया में 1650 तक नीदरलैंड की डच ईस्ट इंडीज कंपनी छा गई थी।
इससे पहले इंडोनेशिया में 1550 और 1650 के बीच पुर्तगाली व्यापारी प्रभावशाली रहे।
1602 में यूरोप के देश नीदरलैंड में नीदरलैंड के बड़े व्यापारियों ने आपस में मिलकर डच ईस्ट इंडीज कंपनी स्थापित की, रजिस्टर्ड करवाई, इंडिया और इंडोनेशिया में व्यापार करने के लिए।
इस कंपनी ने ब्रिटेन वाली ब्रिटिश ईस्ट इंडिया कंपनी के मुकाबले बहुत ज्यादा तरक्की की थी।
1602 में डच कंपनी ने मुख्य शुरुआत इंडोनेशिया से की लेकिन इस कंपनी ने इंडोनेशिया के साथ-साथ इंडिया में आंध्र प्रदेश इलाके, महाराष्ट्र इलाके, बंगाल इलाके, बिहार, उत्तर प्रदेश इलाके, आगरा तक, उधर मध्यप्रदेश, राजस्थान , गुजरात में सूरत तक में मालगोदाम बना लिए थे 1650 तक।
1750 तक डच ईस्ट इंडीज कंपनी इंडोनेशिया और इंडिया में इतनी बड़ी बन गई थी कि उसके पास लगभग उस समय लगभग 70000 कर्मचारी थे। 1750 आते आते इस कंपनी के पास 7.9 मिलियन रूपए की पूंजी हो गई थी। यह कंपनी उस समय की पूरे विश्व की सबसे धनवान बन गई थी।
इंडिया के इतिहास का सबसे बड़ा सच यही है कि आगरा का किला यानि मालगोदाम इसी डच ईस्ट इंडिया कंपनी ने ही बनाया था। डच ही मुगल थे।
अब बात करते हैं अंग्रेजों की सूरत की।
सूरत में George Oxenden को ब्रिटिश ईस्ट इंडिया कंपनी का मुखिया बनाया गया। 1662 तक इस कंपनी का सूरत के आसपास जितने भी इलाके में प्रभाव था, George Oxenden को उस सब का Governer बना दिया गया। 1669 में Oxenden की मृत्यु हो गई। सूरत में Oxeden को दफना कर एक मकबरा (tomb) बनाया गया।
उस मकबरे में एक चिह्न है , वैसा ही चिह्न आगरा के किले में है।
यानि 1669-70 तक इंडिया में व्यापार का यह चिह्न डच के द्वारा इंडिया में प्रचलित किया जा चुका था। मालगोदामों और tombs पर यह चिह्न बनाने की प्रथा डच कंपनी शुरू कर चुकी थी।
Dutch and Portuguese were the dominant powers in Asia before the Britishers. पुर्तगालियों का प्रभाव दक्षिणी इंडिया में ज्यादा था।
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सुधीर सांकृत्यायन जी,,,,डच ही मुग़ल थे,,,,, इतिहास को उल्टा पटकने की कहानी,,,, करोड़ों टन कागज़ पर छपा मुगलों का इतिहास,,,, नेशनल ज्योग्राफिक चैनल का ताजमहल का प्रोग्राम सब तहस नहस,,,,,सबके सब ठंड पी जायेंगे भाई,,,,आपकी यूनिवर्सिटी में पढ़ने आ रहा हूं… See more
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सुधीर सांकृत्यायन
आदरणीय Navratan Purohit जी, दरअसल बड़े व्यापारियों को ही "मुगल" कहा जाता था और तत्कालीन समय में डच ही बड़े व्यापारी थे। डच इस्ट इंडिया कम्पनी को ही टेकओवर कर ब्रिटिश ईस्ट इंडिया कंपनी यहां स्थापित हुई। इतिहास्य के लिखाड़ लोग क्या लिखते हैं यह तो नहीं प… See more
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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 20th January 2022 00:59
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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 20th January 2022 04:43
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All posts must be in English. The only exceptions would be:
- English translation is provided
- Text/source in another language was requested
-Posted as a source/reference
Failure to follow this will also involve removal of posts as it does not benefit the majority and would waste most peoples time.

Hazrat Moderator, I had posted that content as source/reference.
In fact this thread is supposed to be like that - posts consisting of source and reference material.
It was a Facebook post. Facebook is a strange medium. It immediately effective but it generates no database and no information.

There are several users on Facebook who are generating material that is relevant to the situation of Muslims in India but all these posts get buried in tons of other posts on Facebook and unless I make and save a copy there is no way to search these hard earned posts. Hard earned in the sense that the post that I had copied above must have taken the original poster a lot of time and effort to create.

The same user had another similarly informative post but that is lost for ever because his userid was compromised and hence he had to create his userid again.

So many times I do not have the time or energy or opportunity to deal with a material and I keep that for future use.

If the above post is still available then kindly restore it and I shall edit it to include a Google translation.

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