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#826 [Permalink] Posted on 20th November 2019 11:41
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انا لله وانا اليه راجعون

Maulana should narrate things cautiously; because of him people spread all types of nonsense. He should really be careful.

Another video by an Alim refuting this:

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#827 [Permalink] Posted on 20th November 2019 11:57
To be fooled by Maulana is bad (for one set of reasons) but to be fooled by IK is equally bad (for other set of reasons)...

To defend the ‘politics’ of deoband is never an objective. They were politically wrong many times before and they are wrong today. It is not our duty to defend their politics !

The ‘maslak’ of deoband has to be defended because overall it is believed by many to be the correct ‘version’ of Ahle sunnat. For us anyone amongst the uluma having the correct Din and maslak are equally respectable, may them be from deoband or Nadwa or Jamia Azhar...

Names don’t count, Institutions don’t matter, personalities count only to the limit of being trust worthy, it is Din which counts.
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#828 [Permalink] Posted on 20th November 2019 13:54
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#829 [Permalink] Posted on 20th November 2019 14:11
More n more senior ulema should speak like this
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#830 [Permalink] Posted on 20th November 2019 14:42
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#831 [Permalink] Posted on 20th November 2019 14:55

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Maulana Tariq Jameel Saheb (HA) should absolutely research and use authentic sources but when you point out "Imam Qurtubi (RA))" quoting the same incident in his Tafseer, you get a "dislike" for your trouble.

www.muftisays.com/forums/55-members-research-group/8958-i...

That's all one needs to know about "Deobandi" bias.

It is an error on part of Maulana Tariq Jameel (HA) but he is neither the first nor the last in Ummah to use weak/fabricated narrations either deliberately or purpose.

Maulana Tariq Jameel (HA) is also neither the first nor the last to use Israeli narrations in Tafseer of the Qur'aan but lets target Maulana Tariq Jameel (HA) because he "supports" Imran Khan & PTI. Ibn Katheer (RA), Imam Qurtubi (RA) and many others have done the same, I guess there was no Imran Khan in him time for Ibn Katheer (RA) to support.

Let me end again by saying, "Maulana Tariq Jameel Saheb (HA) should absolutely research and use authentic sources" but there is not a reason for him to make Taubah etc. He is repeating what Imam Qurtubi (RA) wrote in his Tafseer.

P.S: Maulana Tariq Jameel (HA) does not support either and has made it clear many times. He has indicated his fondness for certain aspects of it.

Timer is on, lets see how fast the first "dislike" comes because you cannot really address the issue and the poison in the heart is too much to control, got to do something to express the hatred :P


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#832 [Permalink] Posted on 20th November 2019 15:09
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I have come to this conclusion that the usool of quoting weak ahadith for fadhail should be abolished. Only Saheeh ahadith for fadhail and everything else must be used. Because some people get carried away and in the name of fadhail and stories, they start quoting fabricated ahadith.
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#833 [Permalink] Posted on 20th November 2019 15:15

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Then we should abandon Imam Bukhari (RA), Imam Muslim (RA) and others Imams and adopt you as the Shaykhul-Hadeeth of Islam, Masha'Allah.

P.S: Hit dislike, don't ever question yourself to check whether you are right or wrong and check whether you have spoken about issues which are way outside of your expertise and your comfort zone. :P

www.central-mosque.com/index.php/Practises/weak-ahadeeth-...

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#834 [Permalink] Posted on 20th November 2019 15:19

Our love for Sayyiduna Yousuf علیه السلام is more than our love for Maulana Tariq Jameel Sahab.

تفسیر قرطبی میں تو صرف اتنا لکھا ہے کہ قید خانے تک لے جانے کیلئے گدھے کی سواری استعمال کی گئی. یہ کہاں لکھا ہے کہ سیدنا یوسف علیه السلام کی تذلیل کرنے کیلئے انہیں گدھے پر سوار کر کے ان کے چہرے کو کالا کر کے بازار میں گھمایا گیا نعوذبااللہ 

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#835 [Permalink] Posted on 20th November 2019 15:23
Maulana Tariq Jameel has already clarified that he made a mistake when he said Hazrat Yusuf A.S. face was blackened otherwise rest of the narration was quoted from two tafsir books.
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#836 [Permalink] Posted on 20th November 2019 15:26
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That clarifies the matter. May Allah reward him. There is no need for his followers and fans to justify his wrong statements. MashaAllah Maulana Sahab is humble and accepts his mistakes.
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#837 [Permalink] Posted on 20th November 2019 15:30
In order to avoid fitnah we must use Saheeh ahadith for fadhail. If someone wants to disagree then so be it. Based upon the problems occurring which one can clearly observe it's just an advise and not a fatwa.
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#838 [Permalink] Posted on 20th November 2019 15:30
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#839 [Permalink] Posted on 20th November 2019 15:31
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Can you please share the link?

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Ok jazak Allah.
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#840 [Permalink] Posted on 20th November 2019 15:35
Ma Sha Allah! May Allah reward and raise the ranks of Maulana Tariq Jameel HA. May Allah make him steadfast on deen and make him more pious and knowledgeable and may Allah forgive him for his mistakes.
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