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So there are two complex issues which you are muddling:
BOTH of these issues are completely irrelevant to the example in your OP hence you have been barking at the wrong tree for days. You have made SLANDER which is a serious crime.
IF you were a decent Human (let alone a Good Muslim) you would duly apologise for your error and misunderstanding and reract your slander.
THEN you can discuss the issue sanely and with courtesy.

Brother
Which country do you live in by the way?



I am not a Mufti Brother.
This Brother has been making baseless slander again Scholars, once he coms to his senses we can then actually discuss the issue.







No problems very simple answer which has evaded you for days and hope that you understand it in plain and simple English.
The default here is DISCOURAGMENT to a Mosque. If you get this point you understand the whole issue.
You are using your FAULTY LOGIC and applying a Hadeeth where it doesn’t belong.
Because in order to declare something Halal or Haram you need evidence from Islamic Shariah and not conjecture and logic, for example:
For each of these is evidence from Islamic Shariah and not cnjecture and logic!
There is no default DISCOURAGMENT.
A violation of Shariah would make it Haram, for example:

Get your Shaf'ae Fiqh material and be switched on. After the discussion with a Hanafi Insha'Alah I will consult some Ulama and talk to you.
One issue at a time.

This cannot be undone and I am sure it will be greatly appreciated.
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