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#31 [Permalink] Posted on 8th December 2016 18:12
Yes for "Ulema", a justification can be found, and there is no problem with anything.

Make dua for the "ulema". May Allah guide them according to Sunnah.

Another genuine thread is ruined, by misconceptions and allegations.
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#32 [Permalink] Posted on 8th December 2016 18:13
Here is a short clip of Junaid Jamshed on the incident of his mothers Death and advice on preparing for death..
youtu.be/SPJTRCzfYUE

Here is my two cents worth... why cant we just make Dua for those deceased and leave it at that. Instead of
engaging in a forensic disection of each and everything?
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#33 [Permalink] Posted on 8th December 2016 18:52
As I stated previously and repeat again. May Allah Ta'ala forgive his sins and grant him Jannatul Firdaus (Ameen).

The act of transportation of the body is never of the deceased but of others.

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#34 [Permalink] Posted on 8th December 2016 19:01
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Maulana Abu Bilal, this is a genuine question. Please shed some light on it.
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#35 [Permalink] Posted on 8th December 2016 22:43
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Don't wait for an answer because it is easier for Ulama to abuse and become nasty instead of answering questions.

If they answer questions, it exposes the hypocrisy of the Situation i.e. one ruling for you and one ruling for me.

The issue in Hanafi Madhab on the matter is crystal clear.

For years we have defended the actions of the "Mashaykh" thinking that it is Deen instead of actually checking what the Deen actually says.


Exactly what Mufti Abu Bilal is doing. He is not giving an answer but responding with "So many Ulama are attending this, do you think they will do Haram?"

If you press more, Fatwa of Kufr will emerge but you still won't be given the actual ruling.

You know why?


Because the next automatic question when you are told the ruling would be...."Why are the Ulama engaged in a matter which is not in accordance to the Sunnah?"


The simplest solution of course is to:

1) Educate People on the Sunnah

2) Explain on the day that what is happening is not pristine Sunnah but "permitted." The ideal course of action is still to bury the person where they have passed away and quickly. Explain the rules and regulations of deviating from the obvious Sunnah, who permitted it rules etc...


Its not impermissible, just not the best course of action.

But its easier to not answer, disrespect and abuse people instead of engaging in a polite and Academic discussion.


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#36 [Permalink] Posted on 8th December 2016 23:22
Muadh : The whole world can see that it is been you, who has been disrespecting and abusing me for years and years, and not the other way round.

I don't know what you have against me. All these long posts for years and years.
I hardly post anymore, when and where have I posted "fatwas" against you or anyone else?
Your attitude of utter disrespect and all this harsh and volatile behavior would not be good for you, dear brother.

MashaAllah, when you have so much knowledge about the rulings already, why do you wait for an answer of mine?

Make dua for myself. InshaAllah I won't post anymore.

Wassalaam.
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#37 [Permalink] Posted on 9th December 2016 00:20
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At least answer abu mohammed, else we'll assume Muadh is making a valid point.
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#38 [Permalink] Posted on 9th December 2016 00:46
Someone saw the Prophet (s.a.w.) in a dream regarding him after his death, as told by Mualana Tariq sahib:
Halalified YouTube Audio
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#39 [Permalink] Posted on 9th December 2016 01:44
Bismillah.

There are several audios by major Ulemah on their personal recollections of Junaid Jamshed that have been posted on Attablig.com I am listening to the one by Maulana Suleiman Moola very uplifting Masha'Allah www.attablig.com/
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#40 [Permalink] Posted on 10th December 2016 17:17

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Got nothing against you and never had.

Just asking you to deal with issue with Justice and Fairness.

You are asked questions because you are a "Mufti" so answer them instead of abusing other people and make Sarcastic (Tanziyaah) comments upon other.

The questions are:

  1. What is the Hukum in the Hanafi Madhab about burial?
  2. Should the body be buried as soon as possible?
  3. What is the Hukum in Hanafi Madhab of transporting the body from one location to another?

Simple questions. You are a Mufti but instead of answering you become abusive and start making points which are XYZ.

Whether 5 Ulama are attending a Janazah or 500 or 5000...WHAT IS THE HUKUM for transporting a body after death?

I have to write long posts because you keep abusing instead of answering simple questions.

To this day you have NOT answered about the query about Indian (Muslim) Solider dying while defending his country against Pakistan. You abused, you made Tanz, you boasted that you will get an answer but you never actually answer.

In real life maybe because you are a Mufti so people make Sujood at your feet and that's their decision.

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#41 [Permalink] Posted on 11th December 2016 08:40
“ …Verily the Ulama (scholars/theologians) are the heirs of the Prophets, verily the Prophets do not leave behind gold nor silver (wealth), they only leave behind religious knowledge”
(Abu Dawood, Tirmizhi, Ibn Majah)


Rasulullah (sallallahu-alayhi-wasallam) made dua to Allah: “O Allah! let me not be alive and may you (O Sahabah!) also not be alive at such a time when the Aalim will not be followed, and when no respect will be shown to the wise-learned ones. The people of that time will have hearts like kuffaar and their tongues will be eloquently sweet like the tongue of the Arabs.” – Targheeb
(al-I’tidaal, Shaikh Muhammad Zakariyya)

Sayyidina Abdullah bin Abbas (RA) says: “Whosoever harrasses any Alim has caused trouble and pain to Rasulullah (sallallahu-alayhi-wasallam) and the one who causes trouble and pain to Rasulullah (sallallahu-alayhi-wasallam) has caused trouble to Allah”
(al-I’tidaal, Shaikh Muhammad Zakariyya)
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#42 [Permalink] Posted on 11th December 2016 11:06
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Instead of creating fitna on the forum and derailing the thread , Do one thing, - start another thtead and dedicate it to rest 45 passengers excluding him and his wife. Or if you know of them in detail then start 45 threads and dedicate 1thread to each of them.

Since this thead discusses only jj bcoz all of them are stll unknown to us so only dua can be done.
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#43 [Permalink] Posted on 11th December 2016 15:55

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When you ask Ulama a question instead of answering they start abusing and disrespecting you that is not the kind of behavior which is permissable in Islam.

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#44 [Permalink] Posted on 11th December 2016 16:11

BACKGROUND: It is entirely possible that due to circumstances the body may not be identified and may not end up being buried in Karachi according to "Wasiyaat" but we are discussing the Mas'ala here. Hazrat-e-Aqdas Mufti Abu Bilal Saheb (DB) has continued to abuse instead of getting to the point.

Hazrat-e-Aqdas Mufti Abu Bilal Saheb (DB) wrote:

Junaid Jamshed (RA) would be buried here at Darul Uloom, Karachi.

His janaza would be lead by Hazrat Shaykul Islam Mufti Taqi Sb (DB).

He was also a mureed of Hazrat.

May Allah grant him and the other shuhuda, jannatul firdous, ameen.

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Hazrat-e-Aqdas Mufti Abu Bilal Saheb (DB) wrote:

Oh man ..

He is being flown here, because it was his wasiyat to be buried at Darul Uloom.

The thousands of ulema who would be attending his janaza (if his janaza takes place) would be knowing the Sunnah better.

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[quote=Fatwa by Teacher of Hazrat-e-Aqdas Mufti Abu Bilal Saheb (DB)]

Hazrat Shaykul Islam Mufti Taqi Sb (DB).

It is Makrooh (disliked) to move the body from one place to another. However, some of the Fuqaha have written it to permissible therefore it is not correct to make it a routine and the Fatwa is on Karaha.

However, if there are exceptional circumstances and exceptional needs then there is “room for permissibility” by acting on the statement of other Fuqaha.

(Mufti) Taqi Usmani (HA)

Sha’baan 9th, 1389

Fatwa 917/Volume 28

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Transferring a dead body is Makrooh Tahreemi for laymen. They should follow Sunnah and bury the body as soon as possible and where the death has occured.

For Ulama, there is no problem with anything as justification can be found...For Mureeds anything goes...

Source: Dude! Are you really asking?

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#45 [Permalink] Posted on 11th December 2016 17:43
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then why do you not report the post.?

Would you write the specific abusive words so none will use them further while replying you.

Thanks and regards
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