Abu layth and his hatred of deobandis

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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 14th April 2016 09:44

Dear respected brothers and sisters,

For sometime Abu Layth has been waging a campaign against deobandis. It was no strange coincidence that just before the recent government onslaught on deobandis started by the chaplins in British prisoners being primarily deobandi and then the BBC articles as well as the fiasco of the Glasgow masjid we had Abu Layth specifically targetting deobandis over Mumtaz qadri. That seems to be a nice coincidence you may think but let us consider the following facts;

1. Abu Layth charged with posessing hardcore porn;
www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/teacher-troja...

For those that do not know the real name of 'Mufti' Abu Layth al maliki is Nahiem Ajmal

2. Abu Layth being the source of the trojan horse incident.

3. Abu Layth recommending and helping Rashad Ali of Henry Jackson society and Qulliam get a job in the Trojan horse school.

4. Abu layth signing a fatwa of Usama hasan whose kufr views are well known to all.

5. His inadequate response to Raza Nadhim's questions.

6. Abu Layth doing an interview for the islamphobic henry jackson society

7. Abu Layth's links with Osman Iqbal who was a croocked police officer running brothels whilst driving a ferrari

So instead of puting his own house in order Abu Layth has been waging a war on deobandis through his numerous facebook posts. He has specifically targetted maulana abdur raheem limbada who merely shared a fatwa by mufti zameel ur rahman on abu layth in response to abu layth targetting deobandis

To put the cherry on the cake since abu layth is begging deobandis to condemn mumtaz qadri I ask abu layth to give back the ijazah he got for iftaa from daruloom binori town as it is a place according to certain sources which breeds terrorism on a mass scale.

On top of that could we have abu layth condemn mufti naeem his father in law who is the rector of binori town who supports the terrorist MQM organisation.

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 14th April 2016 09:53

I have kept my mouth shut for 2 years and wanted this to come into the Media, these allegations are 100% true. What happens to Abu Layth depends on his solicitors but this guy shouldn't be trusted by Muslims at all...

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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 14th April 2016 10:06

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These are not allegations. All the above is substantiated by ample proof. With regards to allegations then we will have an even longer list with abu layth.

The issue is that you have a whole host of people who praise him and share pictures with him and this is used to legitimise his agenda. This is a warning to these people especially the deobandis amongst them to be not so blind.

Ismail patel known as harris hammam recently shared the views of Abu layth on the deobandi issue even though he has been informed by abuz zubair about most of what I have mentioned above.

What it tells me is that people are more concerned about their 'group' or friends than the truth. They blame deobandis for this but are more guilty themselves.

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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 14th April 2016 10:10

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/11413815/Police-chief-i...

See this piece by Andrew Gilligan the most islamphobic journalist in the UK. His defence piece of 'mufti' abu layth should be wakeup call.

The question has to be asked why is Gilligan the most islamphobic journalist doing a defence piece on abu layth?

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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 14th April 2016 10:29

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bro we got bigger issues than nobodies like this layth guy, who even takes him seriously? you got deo SCHOLARS and their followers turning their back on fellow deo scholars and distancing themselves from them just to please govt. for me thats more of a concern than what some clown like abu layth has to say. that guy been exposed and has no credibility.

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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 14th April 2016 10:35

The problem is that it's the clowns that get the limelight!

People won't look for real scholars in the media, they only see clowns and thats who our religion is seen as.

So to expose and naming and shaming them is the only way.....

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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 14th April 2016 10:40

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He needs to be exposed when deobandi ulema regularly share pics with him and he posts it on his facebook. You have a maliki alliance mostly based in North America who greatly support abu layth such as shuaib webb, the salafis such as yasir qadhi and nouman ali khan as well as a whole host of people. It is a message to them to distance themselves from abu layth and his activities.

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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 14th April 2016 10:40

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thats because 'real scholars' are too pious to be in media :). we cant have it both ways. if scholars dont speak out then either extreme likes anjem choudury on one hand or maajid nawaz type on the other will fill the void then we moan why are they getting limelight.

it goes back to a old discussion we had about our madrassah system. our scholars SHOULD be taught in english and be able to speak very high standard and with confidence so they can deal with media and other tricky situations. love or hate them but the two guys i mentioned can both handle themselves on tv and media. its a shame real ulema with true knowledge and understanding cant.

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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 14th April 2016 15:05

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Why don't ya'll tweet these people and expose him on their twitter page or Facebook. With evidence of course. Tell them they are befriending a porn addict or whatever. Put them to shame, make them feel guilty and let them disassociate themselves from filth, surely that will help if it hasn't already been done.

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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 14th April 2016 16:06

The fact that the British Government was involved in commissioning the Quilliam Foundation, the Trojan Horse Hoax as a pre-lude, to target muslim children in Schools is stunning. This Abu layth's links to Quilliam Foundation, should automatically make him a persona non grata... What I find even more shocking is the following this Character has built up on Social Media amongst All these modern educated Muslims. Thats even after serving a prison sentence his popularity has increased rather then decreased.

Even more stunned that he is the Son-In-law of Mufti Abu Naim, these enemies of Islam seemed to have infiltrated every nook and cranny.

I think the Title of this thread is a misrepresantation it should read "Abu Layth

THE QUILLIAM-LINKED HAND IN THE TROJAN HOAX FIASCO

Posted on April 11, 2015 by coolnessofhind under Current Affairs
QuilliamRashadAliMichaelGove

The Trojan Hoax fiasco had a number of parties involved to pull it off. Some were merely pawns in the “Great Game”, whilst others were the ones moving the chess pieces. The sledgehammer which the neocon, anti-Islam Michael Gove smashed onto the Muslim minority of Birmingham was casted some years ago by the infamous and much discredited Quilliam Foundation. In a leaked 2010 memo addressed to Charles Farr of the OSCT, and signed off by Ed Husain and Maajid Nawaz, Quilliam outlined its plan in “dealing” with the terror threat. The contents despite it being made public, has been remarkable in its implementation and achieving the resultant targeted discrimination the Muslim minority now faces.

In the context of the education of the sphere,

“With the appointment of Michael Gove MP, who has previously spoken out on topics related to the Prevent agenda and has shown a good understanding of the issues relating to it, to the position of Secretary of State for Education, it looks as though Prevent at DfE will continue to develop and focus on the vital counter-ideological work necessary to prevent terrorism.”

Of course, in November 2009, this “good understanding” presumably referred to an embarrassing series of blunders, when Gove helped David Cameron set up a question to the Prime Minister on “Islamic extremism”, making false claims regarding funding and inspection of Islamic schools.

Quilliam’s praise of Gove having a “good understanding” of the Prevent agenda and it’s prophesy that he would continue to develop the agenda worked wonders in securing their funding courtesy of the now neocon compromised DfE. In 2011, the Home Office had refused Quilliam’s funding, and Gove’s DfE contributed £120,000 to the “think-tank” in May 2011. Gove simply rescued his groomed neoconservatism-diffusers. He was, after all, a listed advisor to Quilliam in 2008.

Quilliam on Education

The 2009 memo advocated the following pertinent points as “areas for improvement”:

Guidance to schools on how the “Islamist ideology may manifest itself in non-violent ways”, therefore enabling them to monitor thoughts of teachers and students,
Countering “ideology” with the stressing of secular, democratic and liberal forms of government,
Ensure staff and governors are not abusing their positions to “act as recruiters to Islamism, Wahhabism or other forms of extremism”.
DfE was recommended by Quilliam to draft a “statement of values” which would enshrine the schools’ commitment to equality, whilst all schools “must teach about British traditions of secularism”.

The above are the necessary ingredients for what stewed in 2014. Rashad Zaman Ali, known for embedding himself in the Muslim community to extract intelligence as well as being a spin-doctor for neocons, is a founder of Quilliam and maintains close ties with it. He was present at Park View Academy as an Arabic teacher in 2013. He soon left, not completing the academic year, and thereafter Rashad’s friend, Andrew Gilligan, began his unsubstantiated, distorted and inaccurate Trojan Hoax churnalism in the Telegraph. The “Wahhabi” reference in the memo is interesting. Gove’s brown lackey Khalid Mahmood played off sectarian differences and blamed all the ills on “Wahabis”, ignoring the fact that some of the teachers being implicated were from a Sufi background. Furthermore, it is well-known that Rashad has a sectarianist, vitriolic hatred for Salafis.

The evidence base garnered (anecdotal, uncorroborated, interpreted and spun by Gilligan himself) was made to fit the 2009 Quilliam suggestions.

The focus of the attack on Birmingham schools turned acutely ideological with “extremism” being the label to be applied, just as the memo advised. The “ideological” element included censuring the holding of political viewpoints like doubting government narratives, opposing Israel, and maintaining adherence to mainstream Islam, in a private sphere. At this point in time, Quilliam’s suggestion of stressing democracy and “liberal forms of government” mutated into what we now understand to be “British values”. Gove announced on the 9th of June 2014, having the Trojan Hoax as the ideal pretext, that,

“We already require independent schools, academies and free schools to respect British values. Now we will consult on strengthening this standard further, so that all schools actively promote British values.”

Ofsted, he added, would become the political police through which his widely criticised “British values” would be enforced.

Continued Quilliam Involvement

As I have already alluded to in a previous article, Quilliam later seems to have acted as a conduit for Ofsted in judging “extremism”. My sources state Quilliam’s Ishtiaq Husain was with the inspectors and influencing the outcomes at the height of the Trojan Hoax unravelling. He had come to Golden Hillock School and questioned the governors as early as April 2014.

Parents in Birmingham are also reporting that in December 2014, Rashad was seen accompanying the Ofsted inspectors at Birmingham’s Al-Hijrah school (here and here) as a consultant. It is also being alleged that Rashad was involved in the second wave of Trojan Hoax discrimination in schools situated in Tower Hamlets (see here and here).

More recently, sources in London are bringing attention to the fact that Maajid Nawaz had been invited to speak with children at a school, although I have not been able to confirm the precise topic being discussed or the school this has happened at.

Concluding Remarks

Business for Quilliam and Rashad’s counter-extremism organisation CENTRI must have been booming thanks to the Trojan Hoax fiasco. Whilst deformist coffers fill-up, up to a hundred, mainly Muslim teachers are being suspended on the basis of their personally held mainstream Islamic beliefs or political views and may even be banned from their careers.

On a broader point, the issue of Muslim representation and engagement has been cast aside by the neocon government with a focus of coercive assimilation of Muslims into presumed, monolithic “British values” which simply do not uniformly exist. With this, deformists like Maajid Nawaz, Usama Hasan, Abu Muntasir and others from ISB and Inspire, have taken the mantle of discerning the “good” Muslims from the “bad”, sounding the death knell of genuine community engagement and “pluralism” in the most acute of ironies.

With genuine inquiry into the causes of radicalisation being jettisoned to pursue monetary and Stasi-esque neoconservative aims, it is the Muslim minority which is being minced in the meat grinder that is created by the incestuous relationship between deranged neocon officials and their pet think-tanks.

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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 14th April 2016 16:45

Well mufti abdur rehman mangera will be sharing stage with him in Netherlands on 16th & 17th this month so tag him in on Twitter

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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 14th April 2016 16:47

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#ARM with #MuftiPeado :p

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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 14th April 2016 16:59

Do ppl really know him apart from facebook and snapchat. He tries to pose and sound like a philosopher but a compotent alim would give him a good hiding.

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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 15th April 2016 21:15

Brother mkdon, you confuse me. Why do you always get so angry and then blame everything on deobandi ulama. You never provide real life examples, your words are losing value.

Seems like a facade to me.

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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 19th April 2016 05:25

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The impression I get is that he expected Deoband Ulama to do much better than they have. That he does not express himself with the etiquette expected of Deo crowd is certainly an issue but not the real one.

Yet I could be wrong.

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