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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 8th December 2015 08:13

No entry for Muslims into America!

Donald Trump: ban all Muslims entering US
Republican frontrunner wants ‘total and complete shutdown’ of borders to Muslims after San Bernardino shooting in latest boundary-pushing proposal

Donald Trump’s announcement that he would ban Muslims from entering America if he becomes president has provoked reactions on the internet ranging from outrage and anger to bafflement and utter disbelief.

Many Twitter users - including politicians, novelists and celebrities from around the world - were deeply concerned by the tenor of Trump’s comments, and the manner in which they were wholeheartedly embraced by his supporters.

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 8th December 2015 10:09

is this man for real? sometimes I wonder if he's just been put there to make current evil look less evil

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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 8th December 2015 10:42

What is fascinating is upon seeing the Anti-Islam rhetoric of Donald Trump over the last few weeks and its popularity amongst the voters how all his rival candidates have jumped on the bandwagon and each one trying to show he is more Anti-Islam then the others.

‘Rabid’ dogs and closing mosques: Anti-Islam rhetoric grows in GOP

Carson explains 'rabid dog' metaphor for Syrian refugees

After filing to run in the New Hampshire Republican presidential primary, candidate Ben Carson attempted to clarify statements he made the day before likening refugees fleeing violence in Syria to "rabid dogs." (Reuters)

By David A. Fahrenthold and Jose A. DelReal November 19

One of the front-runners in the Republican presidential race said Thursday he would “absolutely” want a database of Muslims in the country and wouldn’t rule out giving them special ID cards that noted their religion.

Another top candidate likened Syrian refugees — who are largely Muslim — to dogs. Some of them might be rabid, he said, which was reason to keep them all out.

And a third stood up in the Senate on Thursday and called for banning refugees from five Middle Eastern countries. He was explicit that the point was to keep Muslim refugees out while letting Christians from the same places in.

A week after terrorists tied to the Islamic State terrorist group killed 129 people in Paris, some Republican politicians have responded with the kind of rhetoric that another Republican — George W. Bush — explicitly avoided after the al-Qaeda attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. In the angry aftermath, Bush said that “Islam is peace” and that all Muslims should not be judged for the deeds of a few radicals.

But in this election — already defined by a suspicion of government and anger about immigration — the rhetoric on Muslims has become a dominant feature of the Republican response to the attacks. It also comes as 47 House Democrats joined with 242 Republicans on Thursday to pass a bill placing new security constraints on President Obama’s pledge to admit 10,000 Syrian refugees, most of whom would be Muslim.

Speaker Ryan pushes forward legislation to pause refugee program
House Speaker Paul Ryan spoke about the efforts from House Republicans to pass legislation pausing the refugee resettlement program. "It's a security test, not a religious test," he said. (AP)
Some Republican presidential candidates have said they would go further and argue that all Muslims should bear greater scrutiny because it is too difficult to tell which ones are the radicals.

“If there’s a rabid dog running around in your neighborhood, you’re probably not going to assume something good about that dog, and you’re probably going to put your children out of the way,” retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson said Thursday in Mobile, Ala.,when he was asked about Syrian refugees. “It doesn’t mean that you hate all dogs by any stretch of the imagination, but you’re putting your intellect into motion.”

Such rhetoric from candidates who would lead the Republican Party has been loudly condemned by Muslim groups and politicians.

“It’s unacceptable, and if we have somebody running for president they’re going to be president for all people,” said Rep. André Carson (D-Ind.), one of two Muslim members of Congress. “We can’t have candidates painting a group of people with a broad brush, and that’s exactly what they’re doing.”

The growing suspicions about Muslims have not been limited to presidential candidates. In one particularly vivid example, Sid Miller (R) — the elected agriculture commissioner in Texas — likened Syrian refugees to rattlesnakes. “Sure some of them won’t [bite], but tell me which ones so we can bring them into the house,” Miller wrote in a Facebook posting.

The suspicions have also not been limited to Republicans. Earlier this week, the Democratic mayor of Roanoke, Va., cited the internment of Japanese Americans in camps during World War II, under suspicion because of their race, as a positive lesson for dealing with Syrian refugees.

Which governors want to keep Syrian refugees out of their states
And Hillary Clinton’s top political patron, entertainment titan Haim Saban, called for “more scrutiny” of Muslims for ties to terrorism. Clinton’s camp did not respond to a request for comment about his remarks.

Saban later issued a statement saying that he regretted making a “religious distinction as opposed to a geographical one,” saying he favors scrutiny of people from countries where the Islamic State has strongholds.

On the Syrian refugee issue, the Republican presidential candidates favor going further than the House bill, by blocking all or some of the migrants — though, so far, the Paris attackers who have been identified have all been European.

Donald Trump, who has suggested closing down mosques and increasing surveillance of Muslims, said in an interview with Yahoo News published online Thursday that “we’re going to have to do certain things that were frankly unthinkable a year ago.”

When pressed on whether such measures might include tracking Muslim Americans in a database or noting their religious affiliations on identification cards, Trump said: “We’re going to have to — we’re going to have to look at a lot of things very closely. We’re going to have to look at the mosques. We’re going to have to look very, very carefully.”

Later Thursday, Trump told NBC News that he would “certainly” and “absolutely” create a database of Muslims in the United States, although it was unclear whether this system would track only newcomers to the country or all Muslims living in the country.

“There should be a lot of systems beyond databases,” Trump said. “I mean, we should have a lot of systems.”

[Despite veto threat, House passes bill to tighten refugee flow]

Other Republican candidates have suggested that the United States might be in conflict with Islam itself.

Carson, for instance, has said that he would not support a Muslim for president because that faith might not be “consistent” with the U.S. Constitution. In the aftermath of the Paris attacks, Ohio Gov. John Kasich recently proposed a new federal agency to spread “Judeo-Christian Western values” in the Middle East.

And Sen. Marco Rubio (Fla.) said the attacks were part of a “clash of civilizations” — essentially casting the Paris attackers as products of Muslim society rather than a radical group apart from it.

“I don’t understand it,” Rubio said when asked about Clinton’s refusal to describe the terrorists’ ideology as “radical Islam” to avoid offending Muslims. “That would be like saying we weren’t at war with the Nazis, because we were afraid to offend some Germans who may have been members of the Nazi Party but weren’t violent themselves.”

Two other candidates — Sen. Ted Cruz (Tex.) and former Florida governor Jeb Bush — suggested this week that the United States should accept Christian refugees from Syria but not some or all of the Muslim refugees. That is in contrast to the new Republican House speaker, Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.), who said there should be no religious test.

The two candidates’ argument, however, was that a Christian refugee is by definition more deserving and less risky.

“There is no meaningful risk of Christians committing acts of terror,” Cruz said earlier this week. Cruz introduced a bill that would bar refugees from five countries, including Syria, with an exception carved out for groups that were victims of genocide. On Thursday, Democrats blocked the bill.

The approach contrasts sharply with Bush’s brother in 2001. George W. Bush visited a Washington mosque six days after the 9/11 attacks and later gave an address to Congress that urged tolerance toward Muslims.

“The terrorists are traitors to their own faith, trying, in effect, to hijack Islam itself,” the president said. “The enemy of America is not our many Muslim friends. . . . Our enemy is a radical network of terrorists and every government that supports them.”

George W. Bush and his advisers were trying to tamp down anti-Muslim backlash in the United States and to counter a narrative from the terrorists themselves — that Islam and the West were at war. Bush’s version tried to put the United States and the bulk of the world’s Muslims on the same side of the fight, defending civilization against al-Qaeda’s barbarity.

That message seems to have sunk in: A recent Bloomberg poll, taken after the Paris attacks, showed that 61 percent of Republicans and 76 percent of Democrats agreed with the statement that “Islam is an inherently peaceful religion, but there are some who twist its teachings to justify violence.”

“If you buy into [the terrorists’] narrative, then I don’t know how you win,” said Michael Gerson, a former Bush speechwriter and a columnist for The Washington Post. “So the most basic point that we were making . . . was that what we were seeing in al-Qaeda was an aberration within Islam.”

Clinton, who is a strong favorite to win the Democratic nomination, said in a foreign policy speech Thursday that “we cannot allow terrorists to intimidate us into abandoning our values and our humanitarian obligations.”

“Turning away orphans, applying a religious test, discriminating against Muslims, slamming the door on every Syrian refugee — that is just not who we are,” she said.

But public opinion is not with her. The same Bloomberg poll released this week showed that 53 percent of Americans and 69 percent of Republicans opposed accepting any Syrian refugees at all. Among Republicans, 24 percent said they support Trump for president.

“Feed our kids,” read one sign at a Trump rally in Massachusetts this week. “Not 10,000 refugees.”

Philip Rucker in Mobile; Jenna Johnson in Worcester, Mass.; Ed O’Keefe in Manchester, N.H.; and Katie Zezima and Sean Sullivan in Washington contributed to this report.

David A. Fahrenthold covers Congress for the Washington Post. He has been at the Post since 2000, and previously covered (in order) the D.C. police, New England, and the environment.

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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 8th December 2015 10:45

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he is definitely real and dont be fooled. he is playing a blinder. very smart game indeed. a big storm is coming for the muslims in america make dua for them. Even he knows what he said was outrages but by saying something so extreme he can now say something half as extreme and it would be considered normal and probably get passed. eg maybe he wont get the ban on all muslims entering USA but he might get the special ID for muslims. I was listening to LBC the presenter james is very much balanced and not ur av islamaphobe he was saying something similar. In politics if you want something bigotary and racist to get through you begin by raising the bar very high knowing you wont get it but then you can negotiate and meet half way.

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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 8th December 2015 11:47

Something similar was mentioned by a friend. He said he'd seen a movie called "The Seige" where eventually all Muslim Men would be gathered and imprisoned in America - Very interesting. Things are heading in that direction!

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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 8th December 2015 17:47

Muslim MP Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh Says Donald Trumps 'Hate Preaching' Means US Presidential Hopeful Should Be Banned From UK

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A prominent Muslim MP has called for Home Secretary Theresa May to ban Donald Trump from entering the UK because of his “hate preaching”.

The Scottish National Party’s Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh, Scotland’s first Muslim elected to Westminster, has joined David Cameron, JK Rowling and many others in condemning the US Presidential hopeful and business tycoon’s call to close the US borders to Muslims following the California and Paris atrocities.

The MP, elected this May, has written to the Home Secretary calling on the Government to “lead by example” over his “Islamophobic and racist” remarks, which she fears will “inevitably lead to a rise in anti-Muslim rhetoric or Islamophobia".

Mr Trump went on today to claim parts of London are “so radicalised” the city's police force fear for their lives.

Speaking to The Huffington Post UK, Ms Ahmed-Sheikh said he was “speechless” when she heard the TV star’s comments last night and was appalled he had “gone further today”, signalling Muslim servicemen and women should be expelled from the US Armed Forces.

Ms Ahmed-Sheikh said his remarks could be “defined as hate preaching” and the UK should “demonstrate leadership”.

Asked whether he should be banned, he said: “That is a view for the Home Secretary and perhaps ultimately the Prime Minister because we have seen in previous cases they have the ability to deny entry to people who are hate preachers, or whose being here is not conducive to the public good. Can what he has done be defined as hate preaching? My view is yes.”

She added: “While we cannot control what he says on US soil, we can demonstrate leadership in relation to this issue and say: not in the United Kingdom do we want people making Islamophobic, racist, anti-Muslim remarks that are completely unfounded and unhelpful when we continue our fight against terrorism.”

Ms Ahmed-Sheikh said his comments about London were not of a country "any of us would recognise”.

She went on: “We are working very hard to assure there is community cohesion, therefore once we have the opportunity to denounce and take action when it’s within our power to do so, we should do so and lead by example.

“When were are trying to unite across the world to fight the scourge of terrorism, and the terrorist cult which is Daesh, these comments are not helpful.

“He will have an audience. There will be people listening to him who may well agree with him. That will inevitably lead to a rise in anti-Muslim rhetoric or Islamophobia which we’ve seen in this country with a report a few weeks ago that there’s been a 300% increase in attacks on Muslim women."

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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 9th December 2015 16:23

Petition to block Trump from UK reaches 200,000
MPs will have to consider debating the issue of barring the Republican presidential candidate from entering UK after a petition on the matter passes 200,000.

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is this man for real?

The Ban includes American Muslims returning back to the US too.

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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 9th December 2015 16:32

Website crashes after more than 100,000 sign to reject Republican candidate

British politicians – including David Cameron and London mayor Boris Johnson – have condemned his remarks.
George Osborne has rejected calls to ban the candidate, instead calling for a 'robust debate' to defeat his 'nonsense'

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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 9th December 2015 19:07

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I love how the full media attention has diverted away from the mass bombings of civilians in Syria by Britain led by the Zionist congress of USIA (United States of Israel's America)

Another diversion: Yes another false flag operation in which a Muslim couple are murdered and framed for mass shootings:
www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/12/08/440834/Craft-Internation...

Amazing how yet again there's no surveillance available for "various" reasons.

The media is no longer a source for news. It's a giant propaganda tool just like a business front where below the basements drugs are managed. Can't believe a single word if you see "BBC, CNN, ABC, FOX" followed by News. More people are waking up ALHAMD and a civil unrest is very close in UK and USA.

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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 9th December 2015 20:14

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Dubai-based retail group Landmark suspends sale of Trump-branded home decor products

Move made after comments made by US Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump about barring Muslims from entering US

Dubai: Dubai-based retailer Landmark Group has suspended the sale of Trump-branded home decor products in its Lifestyle stores after the recent statements made by US Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump about barring Muslims from entering the US, according to a top company executive.

“As one of the most popular home decor brands in the Middle East, Lifestyle values and respects the sentiments of all its customers. In light of the recent statements made by the presidential candidate in the US media, we have suspended sale of all products from the Trump Home decor range,” said Sachin Mundhwa, CEO of Lifestyle, in an emailed statement.

Trump said on Monday that he would block Muslim tourists, students and immigrants from entering the US following the shootings in California last week by two radicalized Muslims.

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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 9th December 2015 20:19

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Dubai’s Landmark Group suspends sale of Trump products after presidential candidate’s Muslim outburst

Donald Trump’s toxic remarks about Muslims drew fresh criticism from the region as Dubai’s Landmark Group suspended sales of the Trump-branded products.

The US Republican hopeful triggered a global outcry after he called on Monday for a “total shutdown” of Muslims entering the US.

Now the Dubai-based Landmark Group, which runs 1,350 stores across the Middle East, Africa and the Indian Subcontinent, has decided to take action.

The group, which includes Centrepoint, Splash and Babyshop in its retail portfolio, signed a deal in February this year for its Lifestyle outlets to sell items from the Trump Home collection to customers in the UAE and wider Gulf region.

But the retailer said on Wednesday it had suspended sales of all Trump-branded products indefinitely from all of its stores.

The Trump Home Decor collection includes wall lighting, bathroom accessories, mirrors and home accents such as faux antique bird cages and coat racks.

“In light of the recent statements made by the presidential candidate in the US media, we have suspended sale of all products from the Trump Home decor range,” said Sachin Mundhwa, the chief executive at Lifestyle.

The Trump-branded golf course in Damac’s Akoya development on the outskirts of Dubai will retain its association with the US businessman, the developer said on Tuesday.

The billionaire reality TV star has led the Republican race for the presidential nomination since polling began.

He has become known for regularly courting controversy with outrageous comments about the Chinese, Mexicans, journalists and the disabled.

But his latest remarks have brought worldwide opprobrium and a consensus that his rhetoric has now crossed a line.

“While individuals, corporations and brands have been moving towards social responsibility, they also need to display responsibility towards individuals, cultures and religions,” said Rakesh Kumar, the chairman of the branding agency Firefly Millward Brown.

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As is this the norm in these countries they will probably wait a few months whilst this controversy blows over and then put the Trump Products back on the shelf.

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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 10th December 2015 05:07

Everything is fair in politics, this is why he resorts to take the advantage of ongoing trend of islamophiba to mobilize the voters in his favour. I think politicians are the greatest magicians who mesmerize the people with their magic-wand and despite knowing the reality of their tricks people are stupefied.

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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 10th December 2015 09:49

Ban Trump from Entering UK e-petition passes 417,000 votes

Don't Ban Donald Trump from Entering UK e-petition reaching 15,000 votes

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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 10th December 2015 20:00

I think what we may have just witnessed from Trump was step one of the 7 steps of the social engineering process to ban islam and Muslims in America.

This 7 step process to make society accept the right to be wrong and the wrong to be right is mentioned by Mufti abduraham ibn yusuf from 21 minutes in this talk:

www.muftisays.com/forums/40-speech--english/10473-agenda-...

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